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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #29

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:39 am

    Isos wrote:
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    Why did you share this with the other members of the forum, you dumb French mule, since it is obvious that according to you Russia does not have the technology that Surovikin is talking about ?
    HANDE HOCH ! Laughing

    Since he came to power he is buying and using iranian drones effectively, is going to buy bigger iranian drones and is buying iranian ballistic missiles in order to switch from a dumb way of doing war to an effective strategy that will reduce number of useless deads as he he says.

    If like you say, russian weapons are the best, produced in quantities more than needed and used very well, can you then explain us why this russian general that is in charge of the war is buying iranian drones and missiles and changing the whole strategy after he bought iranian stuff ?

    Btw feel free to block me and go **** yourself as suggested before.

    Cheaper. And just trying new things

    At least when it comes to hitting targets like that Ukrenergo that they just did. They could have taken that building out any time with a cruise missile
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    But they're trailing suicide drones against buildings it seems

    Of course though to hit targets of opportunity on the front the Geran is invaluable. But its biggest impact is as a psychological weapon

    Russia's biggest weakness so far has not been its lack of precision weapons. That's a fabrication of NATO fantasists
    Nor casualties and such in and of themselves
    Or the Su-34

    But the failure of its military-political strategies for achieving its objectives and ending the war. Whether the advance on Kiev, or the negotiation attempts afterwards, or the hope to provoke mass surrenders among front-line Ukrainian troops and rout their lines in Donbass. All of it failed. Ukrainian cohesion and morale held. NATO resolve to attempt to collapse Russia through the Ukraine didn't falter. And so on.

    And as a result you end up with this big slog of a war that couldn't have turned out any different under these circumstances; the particulars of which artillery pieces were lost here or there are not that significant. Although all these Ukro videos you demonstrated amount to nothing. They release these in batches to create the appearance of some catastrophe for Russia, whereas in reality they most likely are compiled from material over the whole period of the war.

    Surovikin has exactly the right idea, not in terms of using drones but of dealing a knockout blow to end the war. Although I do believe that this move has been months in the making and predates Surovikin.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:18 pm

    Meanwhile, On RF Telegram channels:

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    And for Ukrainians in Kiev, a new trauma is born.
    The sound of an lawnmower.....

    RF Geran-2 dive into Kiev


    Kiev MANPAD Team Fails to shoot down Geran-2


    2nd angle of Kiev Manpad miss on RF Geran-2

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    Post  Hole Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:30 pm

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    What air defence doing?  Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Hole Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:34 pm

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    Good old S-60 used for ground work. Very cheap and pretty effective against lightly armored vehicles. Hopefully they will soon be replaced by mass-produced
    Kinzhal and Epokha turrets.

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    Post  Hole Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:46 pm

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    Kiev (or Küyjüw in Bandera slang  Very Happy)
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    Dnjepropetrovsk
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    Current situation

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:58 pm

    A population lower than the Baltics soon.

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    Post  limb Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:01 pm

    Wow, since ive been back, theres been so much BS, but at least zaitsevo and veselaya dolina are taken.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:08 pm

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:13 pm

    Hole wrote:
    What air defence doing?  Laughing Laughing Laughing

    It is being busy destroying Su-34, you silly.
    All of them, of course!

    JohninMK wrote:Check this that I posted out. Ukraine been there for how long?
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t8852-how-countries-borders-have-changed-over-the-centuries-video

    Yesterday the MoFA of 404 released a TikTok or something cartoon pretending to be a "historical".
    One must watch that to believe, because the level of absurd is above any given scale.
    Not only the "Ukrainian Kingdom" was baptized in 988, but most of the European dynasties are coming directly from the Ukro kings.
    Suprised?
    That was only the beginning!

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    Post  limb Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:18 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    What air defence doing?  Laughing Laughing Laughing

    It is being busy destroying Su-34, you silly.
    All of them, of course!

    Theyre actually all cardboard decoys because Ukrainianscare so good at disguise
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:34 pm

    Best video I've seen so far, MANPAD streaks past followed by explosion by its target on the ground.

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    Post  Arrow Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:35 pm

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    Post  Sujoy Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:59 pm

    More evidence that ATACMS has indeed been delivered by U.S to Ukraine

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:09 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺🇺🇦 ZRPK "Pantsir-S1" shoots down the American high-speed anti-radar missile AGM-88 HARM.
    https://t.me/intelslava/39344

    Pantsir

    Nonsense, the wunderwaffle is indestructable by commie weapons and served with syrup its part of a complete breakfast.

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    Post  Hole Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:10 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Yesterday the MoFA of 404 released a TikTok or something cartoon pretending to be a "historical".
    One must watch that to believe, because the level of absurd is above any given scale.
    Not only the "Ukrainian Kingdom" was baptized in 988, but most of the European dynasties are coming directly from the Ukro kings.
    Suprised?
    That was only the beginning!
    And they wanted to join the EU back then.  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Hits are reported from Vinnitsa.

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    Post  Hole Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:15 pm

    Sujoy wrote:More evidence that ATACMS has indeed been delivered by U.S to Ukraine

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    Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Hole Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:17 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Best video I've seen so far, MANPAD streaks past followed by explosion by its target on the ground.

    What air defence doing? Destroying their own city.  No

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:21 pm

    nero wrote:They've (likely) setup local production of Geran-2's (The Flying Dorito) in Russia. You can clearly see Russian markings on them, which would be unusual for a drone manufactured in Iran. I bet the shipments from Iran are the electrical components / assembled boards for them. Assuming they're able to manufacture even just >=50 of them per day, I don't believe any existing air-defense would be able to cope well with a sustained campaign; it's simple math.

    My guess is that Iran sent equipment to set up local Russian mass production of the "airframe" a while back, and then continues to supply the little engines and the cheap Iranian guidance electronics. This so they can say they're not in fact supplying any drones, technically.

    Not a bad deal. Ukraine gets all the western toys for free, Russia actually has to develop and pay for its own stuff, so plugging the extant holes with some cheap, already developed Iranian stuff is brilliant. Sure, Russia could develop its own equivalent rather easily, but it would still cost more and take time to setup. Of course, Russia could just keep flinging cruise missiles at these targets, there's no shortage, but when the job can be done by something that costs 1/100th of one, hey? If they hit the target, great, if they are shot down by a SAM or AA missile that costs Western tax payers a hundred times more, great.

    It's brilliant, again.

    PS I can't help but to find it amusing that out of all the vaunted "game changers" we've seen so far, the first actual one seems to be this plastic lawnmower "Dorito" that costs little more than a hobby RC jet.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:34 pm

    Hole wrote:
    And they wanted to join the EU back then.  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Oh sure they did!
    And they have beaten the Ottomans and broke the siege of Vienna.
    The most famous hetman was Janko III Sobieschenko. I guess you have never heard of him, yet ...
    I have only one issue.
    Considering the mighty Ukro Empire dates back in 7000 BC - as they built the pyramids back then - there must have been some vibrant cooperation with the other mighty empire - The Lechian one.
    Our winged hussars best-riding mammets obviously had to meet with kozaks best-riding raptors somewhere around 5000 BC.
    Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    PS I can't help but to find it amusing that out of all the vaunted "game changers" we've seen so far, the first actual one seems to be this plastic lawnmower "Dorito" that costs little more than a hobby RC jet.

    And the scenario you are talking about makes perfect sense. In a single flight, you can pack hundreds of engines and electronic sets.
    While all that is needed for the fuselage is a form and plastic.
    Hell cheap, and in huge numbers - that is what it is.

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    Post  Isos Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:43 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺🇺🇦 ZRPK "Pantsir-S1" shoots down the American high-speed anti-radar missile AGM-88 HARM.
    https://t.me/intelslava/39344

    Pantsir

    Nonsense, the wunderwaffle is indestructable by commie weapons and served with syrup its part of a complete breakfast.

    One pantsir was destroyed in Belgorod. So ukrainian missiles work.
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    Post  famschopman Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:51 pm

    Isos wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺🇺🇦 ZRPK "Pantsir-S1" shoots down the American high-speed anti-radar missile AGM-88 HARM.
    https://t.me/intelslava/39344

    Pantsir

    Nonsense, the wunderwaffle is indestructable by commie weapons and served with syrup its part of a complete breakfast.

    One pantsir was destroyed in Belgorod. So ukrainian missiles work.

    Of course, nobody is stating these systems are indestructible. Every system is vulnerable while being reloaded or simply operating in solo instead of pairs. Even Iron Dome can't pick out every single projectile and is a large-scale layered system.

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    Post  Mir Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:02 pm

    Sujoy wrote:More evidence that ATACMS has indeed been delivered by U.S to Ukraine


    The ATACMS is a fairly big missile - that looks like the normal rocket being launched.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:02 pm

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    ⚡⚡Incredible footage of National Police attempting to intercept a Shahed-136 drone over Kyiv today.

    Safe to say it was in vain.


    Spanish journalists filmed MANPADs failing to intercept Shahed-136 drones over Kyiv.


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    Post  Mir Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:08 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:War Monitor
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    ⚡⚡Incredible footage of National Police attempting to intercept a Shahed-136 drone over Kyiv today.

    Safe to say it was in vain.


    Spanish journalists filmed MANPADs failing to intercept Shahed-136 drones over Kyiv.

    Perhaps they should buy back some of those ZPU's?

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:29 pm

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    The telegram channel Shot stated that it had received a separate comment from the Moscow military commissariat on the completion of mobilization activities in the capital. According to the published message, the search for evaders from mobilization will no longer be conducted.

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