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    Post  Backman Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:07 am

    The Iran praise is getting out of control on social media and everywhere. Iran is not further ahead in missiles. It has some missiles and drones that Russia can make good use of in Ukraine. This isn't to take anything away from Iran. They are dealing with different ranges. Russia has better cruise missiles than the US. Russia's missiles are designed to take on the US navy all over the world. Iran specialized in missiles designed to wreck havoc in its neighborhood. Which makes them such a good fit for Russia vs Ukraine. These Iran missiles probably are some offshoot of a Soviet design anyway. Almost everything outside of the west is

    Iran probably has a dedicated missile campus. Is it better than Russia's ? I rather doubt it.

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    Post  calripson Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:17 am

    Backman wrote:The Iran praise is getting out of control on social media and everywhere. Iran is not further ahead in missiles. It has some missiles and drones that Russia can make good use of in Ukraine. This isn't to take anything away from Iran. They are dealing with different ranges. Russia has better cruise missiles than the US. Russia's missiles are designed to take on the US navy all over the world. Iran specialized in missiles designed to wreck havoc in its neighborhood. Which makes them such a good fit for Russia vs Ukraine. These Iran missiles probably are some offshoot of a Soviet design anyway. Almost everything outside of the west is

    Iran probably has a dedicated missile campus. Is it better than Russia's ? I rather doubt it.

    Bottom line is those cheap Iranian weapons are working and working really well. Bang for buck (no pun intended) they are the best money the Russian MOD ever spent.

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    Post  kvs Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:17 am

    Iran can be credited with coming up with a great solution within limited resources. The Geran-2 is a game changer unlike all the
    overpriced shit from NATzO.

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    Post  billybatts91 Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:36 am

    kvs wrote:Iran can be credited with coming up with a great solution within limited resources.   The Geran-2 is a game changer unlike all the
    overpriced shit from NATzO.

    Game changer? What has it done to really hurt the Ukrainian military? It can hit some infrastructure here and there but it can't really hurt the Ukrainian military. It's good but not a game changer imo.
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    Post  calripson Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:58 am

    kvs wrote:Iran can be credited with coming up with a great solution within limited resources.   The Geran-2 is a game changer unlike all the
    overpriced shit from NATzO.

    What is the guidance system of the Geran-2 and why is NATO seemingly incapable of jamming it effectively?
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    Post  thegopnik Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:06 am

    billybatts91 wrote:
    kvs wrote:Iran can be credited with coming up with a great solution within limited resources.   The Geran-2 is a game changer unlike all the
    overpriced shit from NATzO.

    Game changer? What has it done to really hurt the Ukrainian military? It can hit some infrastructure here and there but it can't really hurt the Ukrainian military. It's good but not a game changer imo.

    hillbilly the SAM missiles that ukraine uses costs more than the drones Russia purchased. and wasting a shitload, they even brought down ukrainian aircraft.

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    Post  mnztr Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:29 am

    calripson wrote:
    kvs wrote:Iran can be credited with coming up with a great solution within limited resources.   The Geran-2 is a game changer unlike all the
    overpriced shit from NATzO.

    What is the guidance system of the Geran-2 and why is NATO seemingly incapable of jamming it effectively?


    INS cannot be jammed.

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    Post  mnztr Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:34 am

    billybatts91 wrote:
    kvs wrote:Iran can be credited with coming up with a great solution within limited resources.   The Geran-2 is a game changer unlike all the
    overpriced shit from NATzO.

    Game changer? What has it done to really hurt the Ukrainian military? It can hit some infrastructure here and there but it can't really hurt the Ukrainian military. It's good but not a game changer imo.

    Very few of these have actually been used and its causing panic all over Ukraine. Just wait until they unleash a swarm of 50 at a time.

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    Post  auslander Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:54 am

    FFS, children. I'm sitting here wide awake, as is my wife and our 'children', from all the racket since roughly 02:00 in my case, 04:00 or so for the children and VCO. It ain't farting squirrels making the noise, that's for sure. And CAP has been up I think for the last 1090 days or so without a stop. If Mother is 'out of missiles', what the fornication do you think is waking us up in our bucolic little village?

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:10 am

    Where r the MiG-29s? https://voennoedelo.com/posts/id32537-gu8hbii0dw3tstzd5mmj

    https://topwar.ru/203441-istrebitelnaja-aviacija-ukrainy.html


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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:40 am

    sepheronx wrote:A lot of fake info is being pushed about Iran's contribution to this. It's a push narrative that Russia has ran out of weapons.

    Nobody gives a shit as long as Ukrainians are dropping cold, don't care if they throw concrete dildos on them, whatever gets the numbers



    But fact remains that Russia completely dropped the ball on drone production which is hardly a surprise considering that they have been willingly ignoring everything related to drones and pretending how they don't matter even though it was obvious that they very much do

    I understand lack of smaller missiles due to INF but they got no excuse for drones especially in Dorito market segment, fortunately Ayatollah came in with a clutch



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    Post  sepheronx Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:56 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:A lot of fake info is being pushed about Iran's contribution to this.  It's a push narrative that Russia has ran out of weapons.

    Nobody gives a shit as long as Ukrainians are dropping cold, don't care if they throw concrete dildos on them, whatever gets the numbers



    But fact remains that Russia completely dropped the ball on drone production which is hardly a surprise considering that they have been willingly ignoring everything related to drones and pretending how they don't matter even though it was obvious that they very much do

    I understand lack of smaller missiles due to INF but they got no excuse for drones especially in Dorito market segment, fortunately Ayatollah came in with a clutch




    Definitely the drone thing would have been a non issue if they did put a bit more effort in the past on it. But I guess better late than never.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:57 am

    Tiltrotors with their better range & speed would have helped too, bringing supplies to & conducting medevacs from the front, not to mention SF ops.
    VMF & SMO in Ukraine: https://theins.ru/politika/255015


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:44 am

    This force building north of Kiev, I doubt it will be used

    If you think about it, 3rd army corps itself still has not entered the picture

    These buildups have been happening for months now

    I think there are armies arrayed across the Ukrainian border ringing from Kiev to Kherson in a semi oval shaped ring full of Russian armies

    They will keep building up around the entire border to create surprise

    Truth is noone knows from where the strike will come

    And that is the point- the strike will come, but from where is anyone's guess


    There could be a concerted push from every direction , literally an advance from Gomel to Rostov and Kherson, with every army pushing forward

    Then , if such a tactic is used, there is no echelon for reinforcement in case of a breakthrough

    They should be careful of a situation where units are advancing too fast and outrunning their own supplies
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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:37 am

    Hole wrote:Don´t know if Arash is really much cheaper then a cruise missile, at least when made in Russia.

    It will, but I would not suppose the cost-effective ratio will be o pair with this lawnmower Laughing Laughing
    And what is more important, as it is jet powered, it will create a visible signature, yet can be intercepted by the Igla or any other type of MANPAD the Ukrs get for free in thousands. But as it carries triple the warhead, the effects will be much more devastating.

    sepheronx wrote:A lot of fake info is being pushed about Iran's contribution to this.  It's a push narrative that Russia has ran out of weapons.

    Oh not only.
    It triggers the already planted #hashtags of "evil hardhead ayatollahs" and all the crap produced towards Iran, which fades like a fog for everyone lucky enough to visit this great country and meet its people.

    Azi wrote:
    The HIMARS is a really good system and caused some headaches for Russian units.

    HIMARS is not particularly better to any MLRS Ukrs had in disposal, only limited in numbers and firepower.
    The way they are using it is ridiculous. They treat a simple rocket launcher like it would have been a strategic one. The whole logistics is applied to it, single vehicles are being constantly relocated to a different hideouts, and the targets are being selected and authorized by the NATO intelligence staff assisting the Ukrs. Used mostly for terror strikes at civilian infrastructure, because only then can inflict any real damage, and still is being intercepted on a regular manner.
    It would mean a total fiasco of a weapon system other than hyped for commercial purposes. Each and single system that US provides is being advertised and pushed to the other NATO countries later. It is one giant stage for making commercials, yet each and any next piece is being compromised and quietly hidden.
    Who heard of Bayraktars lately? Yeah, me neither  Laughing  Laughing

    Azi wrote:
    More than that! What does Iran export beside oil? Nothing!

    You are probably joking now, or need a serious education in a matter.

    mnztr wrote:
    Very few of these have actually been used and its causing panic all over Ukraine. Just wait until they unleash a swarm of 50 at a time.

    Bro, they are being pounded by those 24/7 for like 4th day now. We talk about dozens of drone strikes across the whole 404, with an absolute lack of materials for those being intercepted.
    They have killed their own infrastructure with missing AD missiles and killed more people with the bullets falling down than drones taken out. The sky over some cities there looks like a good, Arab wedding, or Bagdad in 1991.
    Yesterdays spin of "destroying a house" was just another staged case, as the G2 strikes a thermal power plant across the street, while the house was totally demolished by the S-300 missile that failed to intercept it. 150kg warhead just tore the house to pieces.
    It seems that the story behind a crater in the playground from the last week was caused by the AD missile as well.

    sepheronx wrote:[
    Definitely the drone thing would have been a non issue if they did put a bit more effort in the past on it.  But I guess better late than never.

    I disagree.
    You still make the conceptual mistake.
    One can't just walk into military Wallmart and buy drones.
    Those had to be tested for years, the whole infrastructure had to be created for them, they needed to pass acceptance trials etc.
    That would mean, that Russkie already decided the share of Iranian-made equipment years ago - that might be the reason why they didn't invest much in the same classes of drones.
    Did they speed up the implementation now? Obviously!
    They fight with Iranians side by side for almost a decade, do you realize that?
    I was struck with that only this weekend, as for this covid madness lots of people lost the feeling of time.
    A hell of an experience, and occasions to play with Iranian toys without much attention created, right?
    They have some 10 different models in use. Double that in development. Flying, sailing, diving and driving ones.
    We see endless materials now with Lancets and other suicide pieces, but they are ALL documented with the use of another drone. Is it Orlan, or a Forpost, or Orion - no idea. But obviously, those are there, in numbers, and good enough to assist and document strikes of single usage pieces hitting S-300 batteries, right?
    Russkie never ignored the drone issue, at least not when they could already afford that.
    It would be hard to call a pioneer ignoring the spheres he pioneered in, right?

    Edit : seems that a ch-101 barrage just arrived the 404 in several locations, wide columns of smoke in Dnepropetrovsk suggesting that Pridnestrovskaya TPP was taken out.  

    https://t.me/intelslava/39482

    Something was hit in Kiev, Zhytomier and Charkov. Power is off there.

    And Ivano_frankovsk get a dose, too.

    That is day 5 and ticking, right?

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    Post  mnztr Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:14 am

    i was watching Putins press conference in Astana. One of the journalists brought up the case where a person with no military experience was conscripted as part of the mobilization, sent to Ukraine and killed. He is to be buried this week. Quite shocking. You could tell even Putin was disturbed by this. I was under the impression the mobilization troops were to be sent to relieve contract soldiers stationed in other parts of Russia. Now I have misgivings about how this is being handled. Sending green troops like this into conflict will result in huge losses.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:18 am

    * 08:04 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Two explosions in Zhytomyr, power supply was lost in the city

    * 08:04 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡As a result of an explosion in the Dnieper, the Prydniprovska TPP is on fire

    * 08:08 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Powerful explosions in Kiev.

    * 08:09 🇷🇺🇺🇦❗Blows have now been inflicted on Kiev

    In the Brovary district in the suburbs of the Ukrainian capital, explosions thundered - a column of smoke rises above the site of the impacts.

    * 08:13 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡ Energy infrastructure was hit in Kiev

    * 08:16 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Probably the blow was inflicted on the thermal power plant. Kiev is de-energized.

    * 08:22 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡There have been reports of repeated explosions in the Zhytomyr region

    * 08:24 🇷🇺🇺🇦❗The mayor of Ivano-Frankоvsk confirms the strikes on the energy system and asks local residents to stock up on water.

    *08:40 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡ Another series of explosions in Zhytomyr, the city was completely left without electricity and water

    * 08:52 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡After the destruction of the thermal power plant in Kiev, massive power outages are recorded

    * 08:56 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Ukraine is preparing for a blackout. Several thermal power plants were put out of action by rocket strikes.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:19 am

    Folks already discussed that some pages back.
    The guy was a war vet, and the whole story came from "Dozhd" so if not totally faked then faked in detail, as a standard liberda procedure.

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    Post  bandit6 Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:25 am

    Just like how they have handled the war, Russia will probably screw up deploying the mobilized troops and there will be enmass capture of tens of thousands of them, Ukraine will parade them for mega PR bonus points.

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    Post  Erk Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:33 am

    mnztr wrote:i was watching Putins press conference in Astana. One of the journalists brought up the case where a person with no military experience was conscripted as part of the mobilization, sent to Ukraine and killed. He is to be buried this week. Quite shocking. You could tell even Putin was disturbed by this. I was under the impression the mobilization troops were to be sent to relieve contract soldiers stationed in other parts of Russia. Now I have misgivings about how this is being handled. Sending green troops like this into conflict will result in huge losses.

    How do you know the journalist asking Putin the question got his facts correct?

    The "green troops" claim may be fiction, considering 12mths. military service is a requirement in Russia for all male citizens ages 18–27.
    It use to be 2years up until 2008 when the rule changed.


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    Post  mr_hd Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:46 am

    billybatts91 wrote:
    kvs wrote:Iran can be credited with coming up with a great solution within limited resources.   The Geran-2 is a game changer unlike all the
    overpriced shit from NATzO.

    Game changer? What has it done to really hurt the Ukrainian military? It can hit some infrastructure here and there but it can't really hurt the Ukrainian military. It's good but not a game changer imo.

    Well it terrorize civilian population - it is cheap, can not be easily detected, so it has its own uses.

    On military front - 0.
    It is just big distraction.

    And Russia's reputation as great power will of course go further down since country is desperate to use such weapons from countries like Iran lol - it is terrible for the PR on the global stage. So far Russia is happily digging more deep itself in the mud in Ukraine.
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    Post  mnrck Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:47 am

    @Slavyangrad #exclusive #analysis

    Articles are appearing in Western news sources about combat deaths of Russian reservists, less than 2 weeks after being mobilised.

    Published articles in Western media about these cases give the false impression that newly mobilized troops are being sent into battle without preparation.

    I am going to focus on the stories of 2 individual reservists who have indeed been tragically killed in action shortly after their mobilization, and explain why the Western narrative is in this case (as usual) very far off the mark.

    Andrei Nikiforov is described as a "lawyer from St Petersburg" who at the age of 40 was killed on October 7th in Lysichansk, just 10 days after being mobilised. The detail which is missing from Western sources is that since the late 1990s until June 2022, Andrei was a member of one of Russia's elite special forces units. His combat experience began in the second Chechen war, and he remained in active service until 2022. During the last years of his service he studied law, the practice of which he had just started since his discharge only 4 months ago. There should be no surprise that his time from mobilization to deployment was short.

    Also recently mobilized Sverdlovsk Oblast resident Evgeni Bizyaev was killed in action in Ukraine, on October 10th. He was 28 years old. Looking at his photo it is clear he is a former member of the legendary, well-trained Russian naval infantry forces "black berets". I am unable to confirm the details of his service record, however the chest full of medals on this 2 meter tall warrior suggests significant combat experience.

    In short, both of these men were highly experienced veterans. Due to their extensive and recent military and combat service, they were fast tracked to where their skills were needed most. Their deaths are a tragic loss to their families and to their nation, however the way their story is being portrayed is part of a false narrative.
    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14889

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:52 am

    Russia is apparently hiring Iranian drone pilots, this is news. But China hiring British RAF pilots is not news for most major western news outlets



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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:22 am

    mr_hd wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:
    kvs wrote:Iran can be credited with coming up with a great solution within limited resources.   The Geran-2 is a game changer unlike all the
    overpriced shit from NATzO.

    Game changer? What has it done to really hurt the Ukrainian military? It can hit some infrastructure here and there but it can't really hurt the Ukrainian military. It's good but not a game changer imo.

    Well it terrorize civilian population - it is cheap, can not be easily detected, so it has its own uses.

    On military front - 0.
    It is just big distraction.

    And Russia's reputation as great power will of course go further down since country is desperate to use such weapons from countries like Iran lol - it is terrible for the PR on the global stage. So far Russia is happily digging more deep itself in the mud in Ukraine.



    If that's all you have to write then you better be a little more imaginative..  Rolling Eyes
    63 posts in less than two years is very little. Ask Alamo, he publishes that much in two days.. Very Happy
    Write to us so that we know what the collective West has managed to prove and which Western systems have taken precedence in Ukroshitstan. Are there AH-64 Apache helicopters, F-15, F16, Rafale planes over the skies of Ukroshitstan? Are the Abrams, Challenger-2, Leopard 2, Char Leclerc tanks on the Ukrainian front ? Where is the most powerful MIM-104 SAM to defend Ukrainian skies ?  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
    What did the West prove and why is Russia falling deeper and deeper into the "mud" ?
    Do you know what the meaning of almost 10,000 thousand lost aircraft and helicopters in Vietnam? And did it harm the reputation of the USA ?


    and more news;

    10:24 🇷🇺 Apparently, the final decision has been made on Ukraine. New maps were drawn, new plans were made. It is a pity that not publicly, but personnel changes were made. At the same time, the system of command and control of troops has changed and continues to change, and the fighters and commanders in the field have learned a lot and gained experience. In the coming weeks, the Ukrainian army will face unpleasant, deadly surprises, and by the end of next month we will understand the overall plan and its scope.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:54 am

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/726799/a-message-from-ukraine-by-volodymyr-zelensky/


    This ignorant agrapher has just published a book. Tell me if this isn't part of an international plan.


    I really don't like communists because the communists in Russia did destroy the national identity of a part of Russians. That's what the West was aiming for because it knew that this ideology would be easier to accept among the Slavs, because in the West it was always "give it to me and only to me". I am convinced that communism is a ploy by the West to destroy the Russian state, which they failed to do.
    I consider Russia's BIGGEST mistake that after the Second World War, Russia (USSR) did not ask to declare GENOCIDE against the Slavs because three times more Russians and Belarusians were killed than Jews. However, your writing is still excessive.
    Is this your favorite song ?

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