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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:27 pm

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    More non-Pollish Pollacks found their demise in Ukraine.

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    Post  thegopnik Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:29 pm

    @papadragon your boy almost got killed.

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    Post  Isos Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:41 pm

    Few months old. I don't know if it was posted probably yes but I find it interesting to see a pantsir firing 4 missiles in matter of less than 30sec. IMO it was intercepting Himars rockets. Impressive reaction time.

    Last one seems like they push the button by mistake.

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    Post  Werewolf Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:03 pm

    Is that even possible to shoot a SHORAD without any targets locked on?

    Maybe it was in optical guidance mode for the last shot.

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    Post  Hole Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:07 pm

    Destroyed rare Ukrainian 220-mm MLRS Bureviy. The Ukrainian Bureviy is an upgraded version of the Soviet Hurricane with an improved fire control system and mounted on a Czech Tatra T815-7T3RC1 armored chassis.

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    Post  franco Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:53 pm

    Baranets: over 1,700 Polish mercenaries have already died in Ukraine

    The Polish authorities are actively recruiting volunteers to be sent to Ukraine as mercenaries, although they have received back 1,700 dead "soldiers of fortune", Viktor Baranets, a Komsomolskaya Pravda military observer, said.

    In an interview with the Public News Service , Baranets noted that in Poland this recruitment of volunteers is almost not hidden. According to some media reports, the authorities are even preparing for a mobilization that will affect 200,000 young Poles. At the same time, journalists claim that the Polish Ministry of Defense cannot cope with the flow of applicants.

    According to Baranets, behind this support lies Poland's claim to part of the Ukrainian territories in the West. Warsaw will ask them back when Ukraine is forced to settle accounts with its neighbor.

    Earlier , RT reported that in Poland, a military training course for civilians called “Train with the army” was extended until January.

    https://inforeactor-ru.translate.goog/23791973-baranets_svishe_1700_pol_skih_naemnikov_uzhe_pogibli_na_ukraine?utm_source=warfiles.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:55 pm

    More on the transformers by a MoA poster. Ukraine will be up Shit Creek for years.

    The Ukraine nationalized the Ukrainian factory (Zaporozhtransformator) that used to manufacture power transformers for the Soviet Union in November. It is currently without power, and in the future, it is almost certainly going to be recovered by Russia along with the balance of the Zaporozhye Oblast. As power transformers contain laminations produced by special metallurgical processes, and today, aside from Zaporozhye Transformer Plant, these alloys are only produced in factories in Russia, China and the Koreas, with a lead time of years, even when not buried in orders because of war, despite the USSR having always ordered and stored standby units for use if the main transformers were damaged by an EMP (and for HT transformers they were ordered in groups of six, three primary transformers to be placed in service, one for each phase, and three backup units to be carefully wrapped and buried in Faraday cage storage tanks next to the installation). Even if the back-ups had not been sold to recyclers for their valuable metal content, which was very likely the case in the Ukraine, by now they must be running very scarce indeed.

    PS The USA has not produced high-power transformers since the 1980s, or the special grades of alloy needed since the 1970s, and ot is unlikely that the experts or even the records of the companies that used to do this still remain available. Which probably will be a major factor in the deindustrialization of the USA, consequent to a failure cascade whether caused by nature, civil unrest or war (the Congressional Research Bureau recently estimated that 6 EMP devices, and no other hostilities, detonated over the continental USA, would result in the death of over 95% of Americans within a year).

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:00 pm

    Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 8 Dec 2022⚡ YESTERDAY

    ♦#Crimea:

    ▪ A Black Sea Fleet patrol ship shot down an AFU drone over the sea in the morning.

    ▪ Russia's FSB has detained two residents of #Sevastopol on suspicion of passing information on military facilities to the SBU.

    ♦#Belgorod Region:

    ▪ Ukrainian formations shelled Yakovlevsky urban district. Shell splinters damaged power lines and a fire broke out at the arrival site. Civilians were not injured.

    ♦#Starobelsk Direction:

    ▪ In the #Lyman area, AFU units launched an offensive in the direction of #Chervonopopovka. Intense artillery fire drove the enemy to its initial positions.

    ▪ Artillery duels continue along the entire contact line: Russian artillery struck concentrations of Ukrainian formations in #Krakhmalnoye, #Berestovoye, #Stelmakhovka and #Makeyevka.

    ♦#Soledar Direction:

    ▪ In the #Soledar area, Wagner PMC units continue the cleansing of #Yakovlevka. The capture of the settlement will enable the advance towards #Soledar from the northeast.

    ▪ In the #Bakhmut (#Artemovsk) sector, fighting continues in #Opytnoye and in the southeastern outskirts of #Bakhmut.

    The Ukrainian command is redeploying additional units, including foreign mercenaries, to the area to compensate for the losses incurred.

    ♦#Lugansk People's Republic:

    ▪ Ukrainian militants fired HIMARS rockets at the town of #Pervomaysk. Residential buildings, two petrol stations and underground power supply lines were hit.

    ▪ In the afternoon, enemy militants shelled #Rubezhnoye with gun artillery, damaging three residential buildings and commercial units.

    ♦#Donetsk Direction:

    ▪ Position fighting will continue in the centre of #Maryinka. Russian forces hit concentrations of armoured vehicles and AFU personnel in the western part of the city.

    ▪ Ukrainian militants shelled civilian facilities in #Donetsk, #Yasynuvata, #Mineralnoye, #Gorlovka, #Seyatel and other settlements in the agglomeration with barrel and rocket artillery.

    ♦#Kherson Direction on Southern Front:

    ▪ Russian missile forces and artillery hit enemy personnel concentrations in #Antonovka, #Kachkarovka, #Inzhenernoye, #Berislav and Zolotaya Balka.

    ▪ Enemy militants of the AFU fired mortars at residential buildings in #Tavriysk, Golaya Pristan and #Kakhovka.


    https://t.me/sitreports/1856

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:23 pm

    thegopnik wrote:....@papadragon your boy almost got killed.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:27 pm

    Isos wrote:Few months old. I don't know if it was posted probably yes but I find it interesting to see a pantsir firing 4 missiles in matter of less than 30sec. IMO it was intercepting Himars rockets. Impressive reaction time.

    Last one seems like they push the button by mistake.

    If only they put some next to strategic bomber airbases...


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    Post  Isos Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:46 pm

    They for sure put them now. This war proved they do dumb things but that they also learn lessons.

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    Post  Isos Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:49 pm

    Is that even possible to shoot a SHORAD without any targets locked on?

    Maybe it was in optical guidance mode for the last shot.

    It fired 3 missiles before the last one. It was tracking targets so the last missile just went for that last target but since the launcher wasn't up but down the boost phase sent it into the building.
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    Post  lyle6 Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:36 am


    VVP wrote:"She just lied? Wow. I didn't know that..."

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    Post  Erk Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:26 am

    How many times do I have to tell you, Mr Putin, don't trust EU leaders.

    You are a very naughty boy.

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    Post  mnztr Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:45 am

    I surely at some point Macron was in on it as well.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:54 am

    I surely at some point Macron was in on it as well.

    Don't know what source Mercouris has but he was claiming that Macron last year was telling Putin to forget about the Minsk agreements, and encouraged him to meet Zelensky and find a way to reintegrate the Donbass into the Ukraine.

    You guys will recall that Zelensky throughout 2020-2021 was urging Putin to meet with him for some 1 on 1, but Putin refused until Zelensky moved to implement Minsk

    However this is one thing.
    But that Germany never had any mind to go ahead with Minsk even way back in 2015, and used the time to arm up the Ukraine - is another thing.

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    Post  Erk Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:11 am

    Mercouris is obsessed with negotiations, every vblog episode he rants about it as if the only solution to the conflict.
    Yet time and time again, we see that negotiations are just a stalling technique.
    The west wants to roll Russia back to the Yeltsin era, and divide up the Russian resources.
    They are parasites.
    Can't negotiate with parasites.
    Need to spray the NATO infestation.


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    Post  sepheronx Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:15 am

    I messaged Mercorus dozens of times about that - how negotiations mean sweet f all because the west will never abide by them. Not worth the paper they are written.

    He has to say it though not to sound like some kind of war monger and what not. So I don't blame him but he has to be a bit like Jimmy Dore in making it clear he has to say 1 thing because of YouTube algo but mean something else.

    The two Alex's also act as if Russia is surprised and taken for fools. Of course they weren't and they knew 100% what was happening and what will happen. They just play it up so it benefits then even more.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:26 am

    The problem with the Russian elites, is the reactive policy toward western affront

    There is no proactive response to deal damage to the west

    Russia cannot transition east and just expect the west to go away

    The west will come and ruin Asia for the Chinese and for the other states

    A multipolar world is only possible if each state really stands up for itself, but if these states fall away and surrender to western dictates

    Then Russia must take a proactive stance to reply to the west in kind

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:52 am

    It's not because they want to but they choose to be defensive rather than proactive otherwise national cucks like Indian PM will find it hard to subdue their Navalnies in their country who shill for the west, as to why they are orienting towards Russia and China.

    It's also because internally too. As we can see, Russia isn't short on useful idiots that the west uses to stir trouble within Russia. Saboteurs. And I guarantee majority are Russian doing it contrary to what most, even authorities say. So Russian authorities have to act defensive rather than proactive or you will get internal revolts in Russia because "US told us our government is lying to us and that our government is evil". You will be surprised, met many of such dumb Russians. Just look at Ukraine, perfect example when you take Russians and easily propagandize them.

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    Post  Broski Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:54 am

    @sepheronx
    Lets not forget that most Russians didn't support the SMO in February and thought that Putin was making a big mistake, it literally took 30-40 countries showing their visceral hatred towards Russians for 10 months straight, Billions of dollars of Russian assets stolen, 25000 sanctions, 1000's of western companies leaving the Russian market, getting banned from every single "international" organization controlled by the west and countless photos and videos of their Ukrainian "brothers" torturing and executing Russian soldiers with the full support of western news outlets and social media to change most of their minds.

    Russia can afford to play defensively because the collective west are busily making the rest of the world their enemy in one way or another, or did you not notice how OPEC+ is cutting oil production to counter this idiotic "buyers cartel" the US/EU/UK are trying to create? Saudi Arabia doesn't have to be an ally to Russia to see just how badly this will impact them as a major oil producing country if they allow the west to succeed in these oil price caps.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:30 am

    @sepheronx
    Lets not forget that most Russians didn't support the SMO in February and thought that Putin was making a big mistake, it literally took 30-40 countries showing their visceral hatred towards Russians for 10 months straight, Billions of dollars of Russian assets stolen, 25000 sanctions, 1000's of western companies leaving the Russian market, getting banned from every single "international" organization controlled by the west and countless photos and videos of their Ukrainian "brothers" torturing and executing Russian soldiers with the full support of western news outlets and social media to change most of their minds.

    Russia can afford to play defensively because the collective west are busily making the rest of the world their enemy in one way or another, or did you not notice how OPEC+ is cutting oil production to counter this idiotic "buyers cartel" the US/EU/UK are trying to create? Saudi Arabia doesn't have to be an ally to Russia to see just how badly this will impact them as a major oil producing country if they allow the west to succeed in these oil price caps.

    Well said

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