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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:26 am

    Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 16 Dec 2022⚡

    💥 Russian forces have launched 👉 massive strikes on critical infrastructure in #Ukraine. Targets were hit in #Kiev, as well as in #Zaporozhye, #Kharkov, #Nikolaev, #Poltava, #Dnepropetrovsk, #Vinnitsa, #Zhytomyr, #Kirovograd, #Ternopil and #Odessa regions.

    Ukrainian air defence systems again showed low efficiency. Most regions of the country experienced disruptions in electricity and water supply due to the strikes.

    ♦#Belgorod Region:

    ▪ Ukrainian militants shelled the village of Novaya Tavolzhanka in the Shebekinsky urban district, with one of the shells hitting the basement of a school. There were no deaths or injuries.

    ♦ #Kharkov Region:

    ▪ Russian troops hit CHPP-5 and Zalyutino 330kV substation in #Kharkov, as well as an energy infrastructure facility in Chuguevsky district.

    ♦#Starobelsk Direction:

    ▪ In the #Kupyansk sector, fighting continues in #Novoselovskoye. Russian artillery is shelling heavily enemy positions on the western outskirts of the village.

    ▪ In the #Lyman sector, Ukrainian units launched an offensive towards #Ploshchanka and #Kremennaya. The RF Armed Forces repulsed the enemy's attacks and forced the militants to withdraw to their initial positions with losses.

    ♦#Soledar Direction (MAP):

    ▪ In the #Lysychansk sector, fighting continues on the western outskirts of #Belogorovka.

    ▪ In the #Soledar sector, the RF Armed Forces have completed the clearance of #Yakovlevka, creating a bridgehead for an offensive on #Soledar.

    ▪ #Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk) Sector:

    ➖ Wagner PMC assault troops are fighting in the east of #Bakhmut.

    ➖ AFU Units of the 3rd Battalion of the 28th Mechanized Brigade and the 46th Separate Airmobile Brigade launched an offensive against the positions of the RF Armed Forces in #Ozaryanovka. The Russian forces repulsed the attack, pushing the enemy militants back to their initial positions.

    ♦#Lugansk People's Republic:

    ▪ Ukrainian militants fired HIMARS rockets at #Lantratovka and #Stakhanov. Residential buildings, a school and a post office were damaged. At least 11 people were killed and 17 others wounded in the terrorist attack.

    ▪ The enemy militants shelled residential buildings in #Svatovo, killing one civilian.

    ♦#Donetsk Direction:

    ▪ Positional fighting continues in the centre of #Maryinka and near Bolshaya (Velikaya) Novosyolka.

    ▪ The AFU (terrorists) have hit civilian facilities in #Donetsk, #Gorlovka, #Makeyevka, #Staromikhailovka, #Yasynuvata and other settlements of the agglomeration. There are fatalities among civilians.

    ♦#Zaporozhye Direction:

    ▪ Russian troops struck the Dneprovskaya HPP-1 in #Zaporozhye. The strikes have hit the 330kV switchgear, reinforced concrete structures of Engine Room 1, canteen premises and a warehouse with spare parts.

    ♦#Kherson Direction on Southern Front:

    ▪ Artillery duels continue in the southern sector of the front. The RF Armed Forces shelled enemy concentrations in #Kherson, #Tokarevka, #Chernobaevka and #Berislav.

    In turn, Ukrainian militants shelled residential buildings in #Kakhovka.


    https://t.me/sitreports/2196

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:29 am

    About an elite AFU unit in the Bakhmut direction

    It has come to my attention that in an attempt to hold back the "musicians'" offensive, the Ukrainian command has engaged 214 separate special battalion OPFOR (in the A4574 military unit) near Bakhmut.

    It was created in 2017 on the initiative of US instructors and recruited the most trained soldiers.

    All these years, the main task of the battalion was to simulate enemy actions during military exercises as much as possible so that the AFU servicemen were initially prepared to fight a strong opponent. According to Ukrainian sources, in all the time of the battalion's training work, there has not been a single Ukrainian unit that has been able to defeat it.

    At Bakhmut, the elite unit is not doing so well. Not only is it taking casualties, but it is also adding to our exchange pool. The Wagners already take several prisoners near Kleshcheyevka from there.

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/25256


    The T-72B3 tank is an imperturbable hacker of enemy defenses.

    The legendary "seventy-two" in versions B3 and B3M are actively used in the zone of the SMO in Ukraine and oppose the Polish T-72M1 and Kharkov T-64BV. They show the highest level of combat stability in tank duels and when delivering strikes against platoon strongholds of the Armed Forces of Ukraine along the first line of defense.

    The main tools of the T-72B3 in battles are shells: 3BM-44 "Lekalo" (armor-piercing, feathered, sub-caliber) and 3BM-59 "Lead-1", capable of penetrating from 670 to 740 mm of steel at a distance of up to 2 km. Tank guided missiles 9M119M1 "Invar-M" can also be used at a distance of up to 5 km.

    Resistance to enemy armor-piercing shells in improved vehicles increased by 15-20%. Dynamic protection "Contact-5" is built into the frontal plates. Its figure reached 650 mm, while in the earlier T-72B of the 1985 model it did not exceed 540 mm, due to the use of dynamic protection "Contact-1".

    The "eyes" of the gunners are the Sosna-U multi-channel sights, which provide night detection and destruction of enemy tanks at a distance of up to 6 km. The latest digital ballistic computer allows you to work effectively on the fortification units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and from closed positions.

    Tanks of the T-72B3 family and an improved modification of the T-72B3M are the most common vehicles in the motorized rifle and tank units of the Russian Ground Forces.

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/25260

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:44 am

    ПЕРЕХВАТ (Z) (Transformation (Z)) (Public/Preview TG channel, browse-able sans TG account)

    On the situation with the wounded in Ukraine after the strikes on the energy sector: analysis by the Military Chronicle and Rybar.

    One of the main effects of the strikes on Ukraine's energy sector was the widespread transition of the AFU to backup power sources - diesel and gasoline generators.

    According to the Military Chronicle, the most difficult situation with field power is observed deep in the battle lines near such settlements as Bakhmut, Marinka, and a number of others.

    Due to active combat operations in these areas, there is almost no centralized power supply, which means that hospitals and field hospitals are unable to provide timely first aid and surgery to lightly wounded Ukrainian servicemen. Due to the fact that the Russian army is actively using heavy weapons, the number of serious injuries in the Ukrainian Armed Forces is growing exponentially.

    Compounding the shortage of electricity is the need to perform routine repairs and maintenance of combat equipment and vehicles. All relatively powerful diesel and gasoline generators (both domestic and semi-professional) are used to repair and restore equipment, and in some cases this process is organized near hospitals, which have relatively powerful autonomous power supply systems - 800-1000 kVA.

    Connection of hundreds of consumers to such networks causes breakdowns of medical equipment. The cities of Konstantinovka, Druzhkovka and Toretsk have already recorded breakdowns of blood bank refrigerators and key elements of district and municipal hospitals from operating rooms to dressing rooms with cargo elevators, making it much more difficult to receive the wounded from high-risk areas.

    On the South Bakhmut direction, according to the Military Chronicle, beginning in December, due to overcrowded morgues and inoperative refrigeration equipment, bodies of dead AFU soldiers began to be taken to the psychiatric and tuberculosis units of a hospital in neighboring Toretsk to make room for new corpses.

    Another problem for the AFU after strikes on power grids (both generation facilities and power lines) and the ensuing energy shortage was the delivery of fuel needed to run diesel and gasoline generators.

    At the moment the AFU spends significant resources to maintain the system of delivery and distribution of fuel and lubricants both on the front line and in the rear.

    At the same time, conventional generators with a capacity of 3-5 kW are not suitable for the repair of equipment on an industrial scale, and power plants with a capacity of 30 kW and above require at least 115-125 liters of fuel per hour. The AFU supply service cannot cope with a load of hundreds of tons of fuel per day starting in October 2022.

    This creates an additional problem for the AFU: first the fuel needed to operate must be received, then distributed to units, and only then will the fuel and lubricants arrive in brigades, battalions and companies.

    Direct losses due to energy shortages in the ranks of the AFU have already been recorded in the 24th, 57th, 30th and 71st Jaeger Brigades of the AFU near Bakhmut, the 68th Jaeger and 72nd Mechanized Brigades near Ugledar and Pavlovka, and the 79th AFU Brigade near Marinka.

    A similar situation is unfolding right now in the Starobelsk direction: the territorial defense units, the AFU and mercenary units are demanding immediate results, while the care of the wounded is a third-priority issue for Kiev.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:52 am


    The T-72B3 tank is an imperturbable hacker of enemy defenses.

    The legendary "seventy-two" in versions B3 and B3M are actively used in the zone of the SMO in Ukraine and oppose the Polish T-72M1 and Kharkov T-64BV. They show the highest level of combat stability in tank duels and when delivering strikes against platoon strongholds of the Armed Forces of Ukraine along the first line of defense.

    The main tools of the T-72B3 in battles are shells: 3BM-44 "Lekalo" (armor-piercing, feathered, sub-caliber) and 3BM-59 "Lead-1", capable of penetrating from 670 to 740 mm of steel at a distance of up to 2 km. Tank guided missiles 9M119M1 "Invar-M" can also be used at a distance of up to 5 km.

    Resistance to enemy armor-piercing shells in improved vehicles increased by 15-20%. Dynamic protection "Contact-5" is built into the frontal plates. Its figure reached 650 mm, while in the earlier T-72B of the 1985 model it did not exceed 540 mm, due to the use of dynamic protection "Contact-1".

    The "eyes" of the gunners are the Sosna-U multi-channel sights, which provide night detection and destruction of enemy tanks at a distance of up to 6 km. The latest digital ballistic computer allows you to work effectively on the fortification units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and from closed positions.

    Tanks of the T-72B3 family and an improved modification of the T-72B3M are the most common vehicles in the motorized rifle and tank units of the Russian Ground Forces.

    But but but

    but but

    I thought the T-72B3 was rubbish and inadequate for this war Rolling Eyes

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:06 am

    But but but the victorious Ukrs get some damaged BMPs that doubled their inventory!!
    A twitter incel party is exploding!
    Only if they could repair them Laughing while Kurganmash and UVZ are pumping out a stream of fresh&perfumed pieces each hour Laughing Laughing

    Edit :
    By the way, take a look here :

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    You see this IR light ?
    Hm hm hm ...
    The tank does not need it.
    Yet the emission looks very similar to the working Shtora emitters.

    Just wonder ... wonder... Twisted Evil

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    Post  Kiko Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:39 am

    Russian arms manufacturers switch to six-day working week, 12.17.2022.

    Shifts at defense enterprises may also be extended to 12 hours, a trade unions chief says.

    Arms manufacturers in Sverdlovsk Region in Russia’s Urals are working longer weeks due to the conflict in Ukraine, a trade unions chief has said.

    Enterprises that are busy fulfilling government defense orders “are now working six days [a week] instead of five,” Andrey Vetluzhskykh, the head of the federation of local trade unions, said during a press conference in Ekaterinburg on Friday.

    Working days could also be increased for employees, Vetluzhskykh added, noting that the Russian law allows for the addition of four hours per shift in the event of “production necessity.” That means “working up to 12 hours daily,” he explained.

    Businesses also have the option to recall workers who are on vacation, or deny scheduled paid leave, the unions chief said. However, this only applies to the defense industry and should in no way affect companies producing goods for civilian use, he added.

    Employees must be fairly compensated for the additional work, and unions are keeping an eye on employers to ensure that they fulfill their obligations, Vetluzhskykh pointed out.

    The measures are being implemented because state defense orders have “significantly expanded” as the conflict in Ukraine continues, he said.

    Sverdlovsk Region is a major Russian defense industry hub, hosting more than 100 defense firms. They include the likes of Uralvagonzavod and Uraltransmash, which manufacture armored vehicles and howitzers, respectively; NPO Avtomatiki, one of the country’s leading producers of control systems and electronic equipment for the space industry; Kalinin Machine-Building Plant, which supplies air defense systems to the Russian military; and many others.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/568381-urals-defense-industry-ukraine/

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    Post  Isos Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:43 am

    The light doesn't affect the camera. Modern ATGM and suicide drone have normal camera like the one filming this tank so not really useful.

    They need Arena APS.

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    Post  Regular Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:56 am

    FP wrote:But but but

    but but

    I thought the T-72B3 was rubbish and inadequate for this war Rolling Eyes

    Against the threats is pretty good. Ukrainian tanks can't do much from the frontal arc after this update.

    It would still benefit greatly from a better gear ratio for reverse as the T-80 seems to fly compared to T-72 and T-64 tanks. Like in this video where T-80 peaked out to greet Ukrainian T-64 and then quickly reversed.

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    Post  Hole Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:03 am

    Russian arms manufacturers switch to six-day working week.
    They´re not even on a 7 day week.  Surprised
    Imagine what they can produce if they change to 24/7 production.

    Twitter news:
    NaMarshe says Klescheevka has been entered from the north-east. If true, this means Russia has confident control south of Bakhmut—enough that it was able to do an offensive west of Opitnoye. That in itself is a big deal.

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    Post  Hole Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:23 am

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    Post  franco Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:35 am

    According to the head of the Main Military Medical Administration of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Dmitry Trishkin, the mortality rate of the wounded delivered to medical facilities is less than half a percent, but not all of them can return to the front because of serious injuries.

    Thus, 97% of military personnel return to the combat zone after treatment.

    https://twitter.com/Spriter0000/status/1604216696872607744?cxt=HHwWgIC9_cKlqcMsAAAA

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    Post  Erk Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:32 am

    PhSt wrote:

    But imagine if Russia had a 300k strong rapid response force at the beginning of the NATzO instigated Pukrainian conflict. Rusia would have liberated far greater territory and could have already successfully liberated occupied Kiev and there wont be a need partial mobilization.

    20/20 hindsight is a marvelous thing.

    Russia wants to trade with reliable partners.
    If Russia knew they were being set up by NATO back before 2014, they would have done a lot of things differently,
    eg. they wouldn't have let Merkel suck them into building Nord Stream 2
    They would have stopped the Maidan coup.

    Russia did a lot of commercial things with the EU out of good faith, some might say blind faith, but whatever, it's in the past.

    The situation we have today:
    The West wants to plunder Russia's resources.
    Russia wants to stop the West plundering it's resources.

    The rest is a cover story.

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    Post  DerWolf Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:43 am

    I dont think Russian will use 300.000 new soldiers to capture Kiev, most likely will use them to capture Eastern Ukraine till river Dnieper. Capturing Kiev might be in their next phase of war though.

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    Post  Isos Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:53 am

    Your image is too big.

    They can push from Belarus to oblige Kiev to bring troops from Donbass like they did the first day. Taking Kiev isn't a priority. They can just come to artillery range and obliterate any resistance around Kiev until the forces from the south come.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:13 am

    I somewhat agree, I think the 300,000 are to do three things:

    1. Liberate rest of Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaprozhiye.

    2. Capture Kharkov, Chernigov, Sumy, and maybe Odessa as is practicable (also when high ranking officials in Putin's government speak of referendum in these territories I think we can use that as proof that this is what the next stage of this war is going to be).

    3. Dig in and hold the newly liberated territories. Errr mah gaw, Russia is building trenches and fortifications. Well yes, Ukraine does get new nasty toys from NATO every now and again, but they still lack the manpower, the tools, and the means to make significant breakthrough.

    Again, Putin has said he has no desire to occupy Ukraine, and I think all things considered we can take him at his word because the actions of the Russian army have held to the reality of his statements. Zaprozhiye, and Kherson protect Crimea. Putin may well eventually cede some of Kherson and Zaprozhiye back to Ukraine but he will not cede the rivers and power plants that provide Crimea with electricity and water. As Crimea is part of Russia, securing the territories that supply Crimea with Water and electricity is a must. Kharkov, Sumy, and Chernigov will probably also be incorporated into Russia for the same reason. If these territories are liberated, or at least occupied then Ukraine cannot lob shells and rockets into Russian towns and cities in Belgorod and Kursk. Other than these, and maybe Odessa and Nikolayevsk, I don't see Russia taking too much territory in the next offensive.

    As far as Kiev? No, Putin may launch a new feint on Kiev, but that is not going to be the new theater at least for a while. I think year by year, Ukraine gets progressively smaller. In 2022 it was parts or all of Donbass, Zaprozhiye, and Kherson. In 2023 its probably Kharkov, Chernigov, and Sumy, in 2024 its probably Poltava and at least half of Dnipro-Petrovsk. I think after each new territory is taken Putin will offer the Ukrainians one more chance to negotiate and have the good sense to declare neutrality.

    Those who say but the Lolwaffle Wadafuqmach and Keinmarine are getting new wonderwaffles all the time and Russia is doomed or that Russia needs to hasten the end of the war are completely wrong. Russia has all the time in the world to drain Ukraine and the west of money, material, and manpower. This winter, Ukraine's power grid and rails go off line and by this summer Ukraine will be a third world nation on Europe's door step. In fact, in many ways it already is.

    Western leaders are driven by greed. The United States ultimately quit Iraq because the oil revenue never allowed the project to pay for itself. The EU was hoping that Ukraine would offset some of their power needs and now the EU has to give Ukraine electricity. They hoped Ukraine could smash the Russian army. Instead one organically Ukrainian army and one organically NATO army have been crushed. They thought the sanctions would shatter Russia's economy, it was a clutching at straws type hope because if there is one country on this planet that is capable of autarky its Russia (large industrial base, vast amount of raw materials, technologically advanced populace [yes, there are doubtless people in the taiga who have to use an outhouse, but well get into the Appalachians about 100 miles from Pittsburgh and there are people with outhouses. West Virginia and Flint, MI have no access to safe drinking water, and this is in the heart of the alleged hyperpower]).

    Sure, the EU leadership will be able to hang on to power for the near future, but the European people are already incensed by reduced standards of living, a refugee crisis, rolling blackouts, and economic decline and we are only a year into a project that will last 10 to 20 years.


    By the way, I think the Zelensky government folds as soon as Ukrainians see how much better life is in Russia's new oblasts and republics than it is in Nazi Banderastan. If People in Kiev are freezing, have to stand in line for fresh water, and are generally miserable and they look across at Chernigov, Sumy and the like and see those towns and settlements have heat, electricity, water, freedom of religion, freedom of press, etc some will double down on their efforts to fight Russia, but a large segment will also decide the oligarchs should hang from lightpoles and that Zelensky should either seek peace or be saran wrapped to a lightpole, stripped naked, and flogged.

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    Post  Isos Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:49 am

    Weired quality...

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:42 am

    You see this IR light ?
    Hm hm hm ...
    The tank does not need it.
    Yet the emission looks very similar to the working Shtora emitters.

    Just wonder ... wonder..

    That footage is from a conventional camera so if that is an IR light then we are only seeing the visible light emissions from it.

    With an IR camera or the IR guidance command system of a SACLOS ATGM the light would be much much much brighter... which is what Shtora did.

    The light doesn't affect the camera. Modern ATGM and suicide drone have normal camera like the one filming this tank so not really useful.

    If that light is Shtora then the brightness we are seeing is in the visible light spectrum, in IR the brightness would hide the entire vehicle... like trying to see a candle sitting in front of a searchlight...

    It is intended to defeat the missile tracking component of SACLOS ATGMs like Milan and Konkurs and Javelin in manual mode.

    It would effect drones and missiles that can see IR frequencies too by also blinding them.

    They need Arena APS.

    On another thread it mentions the use of LIDAR on drones using surface mounted technology to improve situational awareness... such technology could be added to APS systems to make them effective without emitting easy to detect MMW radar signals.

    APS systems would be worth while in that case too.

    I dont think Russian will use 300.000 new soldiers to capture Kiev, most likely will use them to capture Eastern Ukraine till river Dnieper. Capturing Kiev might be in their next phase of war though.

    Why capture when you can encircle and wait... without power and without supply let them come to you to talk about a solution... the first 50 times when their offer is for Russian forces to leave Ukrainian territory including the Crimea then just say Nyet... eventually they will become more reasonable... or should I say realistic.

    They can push from Belarus to oblige Kiev to bring troops from Donbass like they did the first day. Taking Kiev isn't a priority. They can just come to artillery range and obliterate any resistance around Kiev until the forces from the south come.

    I don't think they would risk pulling Belarus into the conflict if they don't need to... only Russian troops entering Ukraine from Belarus should be acceptable to HATO because that is what HATO is doing with weapons and equipment entering Ukraine from HATO territory. If Russian weapons and troops and equipment entering Ukraine from Belarus makes Belarus a target then Russia can attack Poland and Germany and France and the UK and most other EU states as well as the US and Japan etc etc etc, but if there are Belarus troops and equipment then that is different.

    I am sure they will want to see how things are in January and decide then how they want to proceed... but I think obviously 300K troops will not be used but wont be needed to be used at once...

    They are making progress now and are killing Orc conscripts in significant numbers already... the slow creeping invasion is the most efficient way of doing things while in back channels they can communicate with friendly factions behind the lines who can give targeting information to get rid of those in power that will never accept surrender...

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:09 pm

    Digital cameras typically do pick up some "invisible" IR, whether phones or DSLRs. It shows as a reddish to purple glow. The manufacturers typically try to minimize this with IR filters, but some still gets picked up.

    Try it with a TV remote. Your everday smartphone camera should see the otherwise invisible flickering of the IR diode when the buttons are pressed.

    You can make a really cheap active NVG setup using an old smartphone, some cardboard "VR goggles" and an IR flashlight. Works even better if you can remove the camera's IR filter, but it's finnicky.

    Anyway, just saying.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:20 pm

    This last Zaluzhny yapping is very funny.
    Yup, he will take Moscow any moment, if only 300 tanks will be provided along with 700 APC/IFV...
    The fact that he already lost about 10x the number does not bothers him at all Laughing Laughing  
    His sponsors neither Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Edit : something interesting.
    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/73004
    A tank firing a suppresive fire 7370m in distance.
    What is interesting is the flight time - it is approx. 14s, which would mean a velocity in a range of 550m/s. That bothers me as both OF19 and OF26 HE rounds are fired at much higher speed of 850m/s.
    Does it mean they are using reduced charges to improve the barrel life parameters? dunno scratch

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    Post  Isos Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:48 pm

    Igla is a very good system and can shoot missiles down easily if it is fired on time. Here it seems he fire too late.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:12 pm

    Digital cameras typically do pick up some "invisible" IR, whether phones or DSLRs. It shows as a reddish to purple glow. The manufacturers typically try to minimize this with IR filters, but some still gets picked up.

    This is true, but there is short wave and long wave IR... the short wave is about 850nm, which can be seen by some digital sensors.

    I have an IR torch that glows red about the brightness of a burning cigarette... a faint glow you couldn't read by at night in the visible light light spectrum, but with an IR camera it looks like a powerful spotlight that lights up large areas of ground hundreds of metres away.

    I have another IR device... a dual laser for mounting on rifles... one laser is bright red and the other is 950nm IR and is completely invisible to the naked eye and digital cameras... with the IR camera however it creates a white spot you can aim your rifle with... quite a nice device... you can choose to intimidate your target with a red spot, or use the IR laser to shoot without the target being aware they are being fired upon.

    The IR filter you mention is just normal glass which blocks IR... that is how glass houses work... transparent to sunlight but opaque to heat...

    Part of the enormous cost of old Thermal Imagers was because the optical components could not be made with glass and had to be made with special crystal material that did not block IR wavelengths.

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    Post  Isos Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:25 pm

    All AD missiles have proxy fuze. Without it they would have trouble hitting anything. Radars don't work over very small distances, IR seajer might see just a big red target in the last seconds and is a dumb seaker contrary to radar...

    Igla S may have better stuff but even former Igla had proxy fuzes.
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    Post  Hole Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:08 pm

    Kharkov, Sumy, and Chernigov will probably also be incorporated into Russia for the same reason. If these territories are liberated, or at least occupied then Ukraine cannot lob shells and rockets into Russian towns and cities in Belgorod and Kursk. 
    But these cities would be russian then and the Ukros would attack them like they attack Melitopol or Donetsk now. The regime has to go.

    https://sonar21.com/could-not-have-said-it-better/
    At the end of this article is a video with Col. MacGregor. He is stating the same, you can´t trust the clowns in Kiev so you have to get rid of them.

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