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SeigSoloyvovI cannot imagine Russia using nukes in Ukraine, no one is that insane. Well within the command chain, the usage of nukes would create far more problems than they'd ever solve
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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
SeigSoloyvov- Posts : 3925
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
SeigSoloyvov Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:11 am
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Oh, NATO could defend itself easily!
Especially if we consider the fact that nobody was going to attack them.
But they decided to attack a world's superpower, industrially developed and supported by the unlimited supply of materials.
They just watched too many Netflix serials.
This is good one :
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/76336
Note the "LOW BATTERY" marking. And they have just vaporized two poor hochols after, not to waste a good drone
Especially if we consider the fact that nobody was going to attack them.
But they decided to attack a world's superpower, industrially developed and supported by the unlimited supply of materials.
They just watched too many Netflix serials.
This is good one :
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/76336
Note the "LOW BATTERY" marking. And they have just vaporized two poor hochols after, not to waste a good drone
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Guys does the T-90M already carry ammunition to penetrate the 2A6 ?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
Dr.Snufflebug Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:50 am
2A82 with APFSDS has a stated penetration of 850-1000mm RHA.
That's a meter of steel. 2A6 has what, 600mm RHA equivalent.
So yes.
But tank-on-tank battles are very rare. We've hardly seen any so far, in spite of how many fielded on both sides. They tend to get taken out by other weapons.
I must add that Leo 2 and M1 are huge vehicles, much more conspicuous than the relatively nimble and low profile T-series.
That's a meter of steel. 2A6 has what, 600mm RHA equivalent.
So yes.
But tank-on-tank battles are very rare. We've hardly seen any so far, in spite of how many fielded on both sides. They tend to get taken out by other weapons.
I must add that Leo 2 and M1 are huge vehicles, much more conspicuous than the relatively nimble and low profile T-series.
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Every squad-level AT weapon the Russian army carries will tear both to pieces.
Dozens of M1 were lost against insurgents not even close in training level to the battle-hardened Russkie trooper. And none of them had an access to modern weapons in numbers. The best they could bet was some sole pieces of smuggled RPG-29 or Iranian ripoffs of Korean rippoffs of Kornets.
I really would like to see what an Ataka or Vichr will do with both of those not to mention Chrizantema...
Dozens of M1 were lost against insurgents not even close in training level to the battle-hardened Russkie trooper. And none of them had an access to modern weapons in numbers. The best they could bet was some sole pieces of smuggled RPG-29 or Iranian ripoffs of Korean rippoffs of Kornets.
I really would like to see what an Ataka or Vichr will do with both of those
not to mention Chrizantema...GarryB, Werewolf, Big_Gazza, kvs, GunshipDemocracy, Hole, Belisarius and Podlodka77 like this post
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I propose that Russia use thermobaric nukes. Same degree of destruction but with no radiation residue. This is a win-win solution to end this war and restore Russia's territorial integrity along the Polish border
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
Dr.Snufflebug Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:44 am
The dismissal wave continues.
https://strana.news/news/422933-henprokuror-andrej-kostin-uvolil-s-dolzhnostej-5-rukovoditelej-oblastnykh-prokuratur.html
https://strana.news/news/422933-henprokuror-andrej-kostin-uvolil-s-dolzhnostej-5-rukovoditelej-oblastnykh-prokuratur.html
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
The-thing-next-door Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:50 am
PhSt wrote:I propose that Russia use thermobaric nukes. Same degree of destruction but with no radiation residue. This is a win-win solution to end this war and restore Russia's territorial integrity along the Polish border
Thermobarics and thermornuclears are two different things. I would also suggest that city levelling operations be reserved for areas of Russia populated almost entirely by traitors such as poland and finland or certain parts of western Ukraine.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
Dr.Snufflebug Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:55 am
Few days ago:
Russian Agents Suspected of Directing Far-Right Group to Mail Bombs in Spain
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/22/us/politics/russia-spain-letter-bombs.html
Today:
A 74-year old retiree from Miranda de Ebro has been arrested for carrying out letter bomb attacks
https://www.lasexta.com/noticias/nacional/detenido-hombre-74-anos-como-presunto-autor-envio-cartas-material-explosivo-sanchez-legaciones-ucrania_2023012563d0f1531162f5000132ef94.html
Like, seriously?
Russian Agents Suspected of Directing Far-Right Group to Mail Bombs in Spain
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/22/us/politics/russia-spain-letter-bombs.html
Investigators in recent weeks have focused on the Russian Imperial Movement, a radical group that has members and associates across Europe and military-style training centers in St. Petersburg, Russia, the officials said. They added that the group, which has been designated a global terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department, is believed to have ties to Russian intelligence agencies. Important members of the group have been in Spain, and the police there have tracked its ties with far-right Spanish organizations.
Today:
A 74-year old retiree from Miranda de Ebro has been arrested for carrying out letter bomb attacks
https://www.lasexta.com/noticias/nacional/detenido-hombre-74-anos-como-presunto-autor-envio-cartas-material-explosivo-sanchez-legaciones-ucrania_2023012563d0f1531162f5000132ef94.html
The man is a former official of the Vitoria City Council and currently lives alone, he has no known affiliations with any political group.
Like, seriously?
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Reality. The US sold the Germans a dummy.
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A word of caution on Abrams tank euphoria: It could be years before the tanks arrive. The 30 tanks will be through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, which means they're contracted, and not pulled from existing stocks.
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A word of caution on Abrams tank euphoria: It could be years before the tanks arrive. The 30 tanks will be through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, which means they're contracted, and not pulled from existing stocks.
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BTR-82As from the 155. Naval Infantry Brigade, Ugledar direction
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Western stuff littering the landscape
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
Dr.Snufflebug Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:08 pm
Ukraine today says they are beginning to retreat from Soledar...
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
famschopman Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:39 pm
Many stories about Ukraine troops refusing to be sent as meat in a meatgrinder. Retreating, ignore and refuse any orders being given. Contrary to some, I feel for those guys especially if you see they are not volunteering but abducted from the streets at gunpoint. And for what, a corrupt leadership led by a Western agenda. Not worth dying for.
Given that the Ukraine government doesn't even track casualties and probably lost track who is still alive and fighting there is a chance these guys can evade prison time until the current government is gone.
Given that the Ukraine government doesn't even track casualties and probably lost track who is still alive and fighting there is a chance these guys can evade prison time until the current government is gone.
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The list of potential Wunderwaffe is getting shorter and shorter, so what do you bet next?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:58 pm
A mandatory reaction would be the export ban from Russian Titan.
Only authorized dealers should be allowed to buy titanium and only in limited quantities (think of the CIA operation in the Cold War).
You do not have to punish the USA, but its stupid entourage.
Any export of certain products and raw materials must be checked so that they do not arrive in Europe.
Only authorized dealers should be allowed to buy titanium and only in limited quantities (think of the CIA operation in the Cold War).
You do not have to punish the USA, but its stupid entourage.
Any export of certain products and raw materials must be checked so that they do not arrive in Europe.
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It seems that another attempt to cross Dnepr in the Gladkovka direction was changed into fish food...
Post Dr.Snufflebug Today at 12:08 pm
Ukraine today says they are beginning to retreat from Soledar...
They might be right from some perspective. Like the last truck with gruz 200 was shipped by the Wagners back home.
Post Dr.Snufflebug Today at 12:08 pm
Ukraine today says they are beginning to retreat from Soledar...
They might be right from some perspective. Like the last truck with gruz 200 was shipped by the Wagners back home.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
GunshipDemocracy Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:02 pm
@Hole well you can call this a stable diffusion. In this case this is not related to AI graphics tho 
If it would be jut AI you rite peremoga and AI is generating something like that.
If it would be jut AI you rite peremoga and AI is generating something like that.
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The German Foreign Minister basically declared war on Russia.
The successor of Ribbentrop.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1618217167388053504?s=20&t=KGfvb-ArF17wfdQ-Md9F4Q
The successor of Ribbentrop.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1618217167388053504?s=20&t=KGfvb-ArF17wfdQ-Md9F4Q
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
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Wicked witch. I remember old boomers saying is Biden won ww3 would happen. They were right. They needed trump gone. Not because of any great qualities of trump it's because he was a monoey wrench in their plans.
Now the mask is off. The greens are warmongers. Climate change policy is now openly understood as forced austerity. Various means of family planning and euthanasia are the beginnings of overt depopulation. It will grow more wicked and horrific.these monsters are literally demonic.
Now the mask is off. The greens are warmongers. Climate change policy is now openly understood as forced austerity. Various means of family planning and euthanasia are the beginnings of overt depopulation. It will grow more wicked and horrific.these monsters are literally demonic.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:34 pm
wilhelm wrote:The German Foreign Minister basically declared war on Russia.
The successor of Ribbentrop.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1618217167388053504?s=20&t=KGfvb-ArF17wfdQ-Md9F4Q
Putin: "Strictly speaking, formally, legally, there are American occupation troops on the territory of the Federal Republic[Germany],but in fact there are, there are a lot of them there.
Fire deleted before it jumps ...
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Sprinter's
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The scale of mobilization is becoming universal, and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has increased plans for mobilization from 100 to 200 thousand people.
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The scale of mobilization is becoming universal, and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has increased plans for mobilization from 100 to 200 thousand people.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37
Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:51 pm
@LogKa11
Russian Lancet kamikaze drone destroys a Ukrainian M777 artillery.
The Ukrainian soldiers tried to hide the howitzer in a trench, but they all scattered away like rats as soon as they saw the Lancet drone
@Suriyakmaps
North of Donetsk Airport #RussianArmy and #DPR forces took control over the hills north of Vodyane/Водяне and advanced towards Pervomais'ke/Первомайське from a second axis.
The fascist front breaks everywhere ...
Russian Lancet kamikaze drone destroys a Ukrainian M777 artillery.
The Ukrainian soldiers tried to hide the howitzer in a trench, but they all scattered away like rats as soon as they saw the Lancet drone
@Suriyakmaps
North of Donetsk Airport #RussianArmy and #DPR forces took control over the hills north of Vodyane/Водяне and advanced towards Pervomais'ke/Первомайське from a second axis.
The fascist front breaks everywhere ...
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