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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:18 am

    They are all generals.
    In some rare cases, field marshals.
    Like PD and some other ... species Laughing
    They only lack soldiers to carry the mission, you know.
    Give them a million souls, and they will surely win!
    Or respawn.

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:18 am

    Actually, Wagner took Popasnaya, when other units couldn't do it. That opened doors for whole breakthrough. It also needs to be mentioned that they helped to stabilize front in front of Lisichansk, at the time 2. Corp of LNR got its ass kicked around Liman and lost a lot of territory east of Seversk. And also they constructed Wagner's defense line. Prigozhin and his units did a lot of heavy lifting in this war and that can't be stated enough.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:19 am

    2+2 makes?

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    Post  DerWolf Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:29 am

    There is a war going on and the stakes couldnt be any higher and what these idiot bureaurocrats do? Fight among themselves.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:32 am

    TO MNZTR

    Your entire story starts from the starting point that there is an invisible wall above the NATO pact, so that only the West will go in the direction of Russia, even though Russian missiles do not need a visa to Europe.
    What kind of air superiority are you writing about over the skies of Ukroshitstan when airports across Europe would be on fire if western planes appeared over Ukroshitstan.
    According to your logic and your way of writing, it seems to me that you forgot Iskander and Kinzhal, Zircon, 3M14, etc. At least one-third to one-quarter of the Western planes would have been destroyed while still on the ground.
    The same applies to the GPS satellite system, because in case of any hasty reaction of the NATO pact, the warfare system will be set back decades because those same satellites will be destroyed. There is not only the side of the coin that you write about.




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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:33 am

    ...a nad while 2+2 is still too much complicated, we have multiple incoming in Charkov as speak.
    That makes ... four days in a row.
    Peremoga incoming.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:44 am

    Some of you start from the point that Russia has played all trumps in this conflict, although I think it is quite the opposite.
    I guess it is a consequence of too much reading of the Western press, it is possible that this is the issue.
    Some act as if Russia is really Iraq or my Serbia, which has so many inhabitants that it is at the level of a statistical error in terms of the rest of the world's population.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:57 am

    I find it interesting that the Telegram nationalists and their relay antennas on this forum (limb, caveat emptor et al.) are full of vitriol for the Russian MoD staff but always avoid mentioning Surovikin in their attacks.
    Interesting that he has this sort of immunity.

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:08 am

    FP
    I find it interesting that the Telegram nationalists and their relay antennas on this forum (limb, caveat emptor et al.)
    😂😂
    First time in my life I've been called or connected to "nationalists", as you put it. Next time, I'll shit on Beglov if that will make you feel any better.
    Let's not full yourself FP, there's plenty targets among Russian bureaucracy to shit on.
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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:14 am

    In regards to your political affiliation, only connection to it, aside from sporadically quoting Lenin, is your tendency toward conspiracies and seeing "nationalists" everywhere.
    You are in a tough spot, I have to admit, as being a communist and siding with state embedded oligarchs is as hard as trying to mix water and oil.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:17 am

    I find it interesting that the Telegram nationalists and their relay antennas on this forum (limb, caveat emptor et al.) are full of vitriol for the Russian MoD staff but always avoid mentioning Surovikin in their attacks.
    Interesting that he has this sort of immunity.


    The answer is easy bro.
    They have just recorded some TG files when Prigozin was unleashing some shit.
    No 1 - he was trolling dozens of times
    No 2 - he was just have been caught red-handed by staging a whole narrative (in a positive way)
    A guy perpetuated death by hammer resurrected Laughing Laughing Laughing
    Yet that won't help our doom team to stand corrected.
    But objectively - if you still have an issue admitting that 2+2 is 4 busy pretending an emperor (ekhm ekhm) ...

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:34 am

    NSFW for dead body's.
    18+, RF Wagner collects neutralized Ukrainians in Bakhmut


    RF TOS-1A shelling ukrainian troops at Ugledar


    another fine Western example of Freedom and Democracy.


    O group mechanized infantry storm Ukrainian positions


    O group ATGM team targets Ukrainian BMP in the Svatovsky direction

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    Post  Belisarius Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:41 am

    Another video of the destroyed Ukrainian airfield:
    https://t.me/Ugolok_Sitha/11839

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:53 am

    my personal input on Yevgeny Prigozhin statements.

    Remember, Media is an weapon as well.
    He can say all kinds of things while doing the opposite.
    and he clearly does, he has unimpeded access to RF ordnance and factory's.
    he fields his own airforce, tanks and artillery.
    for all that you have your own war machine run by professionals.
    Don't be fooled by smoke and mirrors.

    This war moves too fast and there is too much information out there daily to go nit-pick about what words anyone says on social media.
    Even what feels for us as "real time" is usually about one day or older when it gets reported/uploaded.

    It really does not matter for some here, how many times someone speaks sense and logic.
    When Twitter says something that paints Russia as Incompetent. They just take it for Truth.

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    Post  Kiko Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:02 am

    Wine and books, gentlemen. Wine and books!

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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:08 am

    The social media mass circle-jerk psychosis phenomenon is awesome in its progression over the last 15 years. Back in the 1990s it
    was not expected that the internet would usher in a Brave New World of self-organizing idiot mobs. Ukraine floats on social media
    style bubble reality. But many Russians are in a similar bubble. I hope Russia does not join the west in this brain rot to oblivion.

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    Post  billybatts91 Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:10 am

    America is becoming a laughing stock of the world.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:53 am

    In regards to your political affiliation, only connection to it, aside from sporadically quoting Lenin, is your tendency toward conspiracies and seeing "nationalists" everywhere.
    You are in a tough spot, I have to admit, as being a communist and siding with state embedded oligarchs is as hard as trying to mix water and oil.

    You and others have been led on a ride by Kremlin spinsters

    They say jump and you ask how high. Without even realizing who's giving you your pointers.

    Surovikin was introduced to the public as a would-be saviour and hero, and so is accepted as such. While it has become fashionable to bash Shoigu, Gerasimov and these other personalities that have been staying out of the spotlight.

    Prigozhin is busy saving Russia from disaster in the Donbass while Apti Aluidinov is saving him from supply sabotage by handing over 100 tank rounds

    I would ask who these fairy tales are even meant for, but it's plain and easy to see right on this forum.

    Without taking anything away from Prigozhin and Wagner and their very real local successes in Soledar and other outlying suburbs of Bakhmut; I have no doubt that as usual, the most significant and far-reaching results in this war are achieved by those units, and those branches of forces that are talked about far less and who talk far less, but who just soberly get on with their duties.

    As for what purpose these stories are constantly being spun, and how real these tensions between Prigozhin and the MoD really are - I'm not even interested in speculating on. It's not that important.

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    Post  Backman Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:41 am

    As for what purpose these stories are constantly being spun, and how real these tensions between Prigozhin and the MoD really are - I'm not even interested in speculating on. It's not that important.

    For the Kremlin spinsters and their relay antennas on here , the petty gossip is the most important part. Russian special military operation in Ukraine #38 - Page 29 Icon_smile

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:43 am

    @FP

    I believe that what we see might lead to some sort of prequel to more serious power struggle that will ensue after war ends. As it is customary after every big event. I wouldn't discount some of the bickering as maskirovka, but certainly not all of it. Not even most of it.
    This war laid bare many people from all walks of life. And that process isn't over.
    As for bureaucrats in all structures, I don't have to tell you that for mediocre ones, their ultimate goal is to survive unscathed in regards to their position and benefits. After turbulent '90s Putin offered Russians stability, as it was much needed. That period is now over and as with every turmoil, new people will try to get into forefront.
    Especially, if Putin leaves the top spot, as I think he might do, in relatively short time.
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    Post  Backman Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:49 am

    Kremlin spinsters is the perfect name for this cottage industry.

    Anyway, there was a bunch of them on Twitter (or was it here?) who were saying that those Kornet missile pictures were photoshops.

    Well it was real and it made it to CNN. It starts a 1:20 in. But before that, they talk about how Russia is kidnapping children and sending them to camps!

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