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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #44

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:11 am

    JohninMK wrote:Ukraine Battle Map
    @ukraine_map
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    US 🇺🇸 has announced a new military aid package for Ukraine 🇺🇦 worth $325 million, it includes:

    -15 Bradley IFVs
    -10 Stryker APCs
    -HIMARS and NASAMS Ammunition
    -Stinger Anti-Aircraft MANPADS
    -155mm, 105mm Artillery Shells
    -TOW and Javelin Anti-Tank Weapons
    -AT4 Anti-Armor Weapons

    I've seen Bradleys burn, but no Strykers yet (looking foward to it)
    TOW and Javelin, US will be seeing those fired at them in Syria
    Those shells are gonna blow up lovely in the ammo dumps
    The maxipads will also end up in terrorist hands

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    Post  Godric Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:17 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Ukraine Battle Map
    @ukraine_map
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    32m
    US 🇺🇸 has announced a new military aid package for Ukraine 🇺🇦 worth $325 million, it includes:

    -15 Bradley IFVs
    -10 Stryker APCs
    -HIMARS and NASAMS Ammunition
    -Stinger Anti-Aircraft MANPADS
    -155mm, 105mm Artillery Shells
    -TOW and Javelin Anti-Tank Weapons
    -AT4 Anti-Armor Weapons

    I've seen Bradleys burn, but no Strykers yet (looking foward to it)
    TOW and Javelin, US will be seeing those fired at them in Syria
    Those shells are gonna blow up lovely in the ammo dumps
    The maxipads will also end up in terrorist hands

    i don't think any other country has bought there strykers ... they are not very mobile or fast, they have a fairly low top speed of around 54m p/h for the latest variants and the only strykers in foreign service are donations ... with Ukraine having 90

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:22 am

    🇷🇺🇺🇦🌊Putin - about the explosion of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station:

    I will say a strange thing, unfortunately, this thwarted their counteroffensive in this area. Unfortunately, why? Because it would be better if they were advancing there. It's better for us, because it would be very bad for them to attack there. But since such a spill occurred, the offensive did not take place.

    WHAT Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:03 am

    They are already preparing a repair center for Leopard-2...

    June 13, 20:52
    Military operation in Ukraine
    Germany and Poland will open a repair center for tanks Leopard-2
    According to Bloomberg, negotiations on the establishment of the facility should be completed "in the coming days, before the start of the NATO summit in Vilnius."

    NEW YORK, June 13th. /TASS/. Germany and Poland have entered the final stage of negotiations on the establishment of a repair center for German-made Leopard-2 tanks handed over to Ukraine and knocked out by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. This was reported by Bloomberg.

    The talks are to be completed "in the coming days, before the start of the NATO summit in Vilnius" on July 11-12, the agency reports citing German Ambassador to Poland Thomas Bagger. According to him, it is planned to store spare parts necessary for the repair of German military equipment in this center.

    In April, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius announced an agreement on the establishment in Poland of a maintenance and repair center for these tanks. On January 25, the German government confirmed that it would send 14 Leopard 2s to Ukraine and issue permission to other countries to re-export these vehicles.

    On February 24, Germany decided to supply Kiev with 4 more pieces of equipment from the stocks of its armed forces, at the end of March it became known that 18 Leopard 2 had already arrived at their destination.

    The Leopard 2 is considered one of the most advanced battle tanks on the global arms market. However, one of the problems may be the complexity of the system, which is very demanding on maintenance, so it was decided to open a service center.

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/18000649

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:07 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    A funny tought.
    It is a light infantry unit, assigned formally to Rosgvardia, and local authorities level voluntary units in some cases.
    Oh yeah, Toyota pickups of the Ukroisis will handle that Laughing and heavy mechanized/armored regular Russian army units even more than that Laughing Laughing Laughing

    perhaps because in Syria light highly mobile jihadi units were chased by such forces not by tank brigades? it worked pretty well there.

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    Post  Godric Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:10 am



    you reap what you sow, you were imposing sanctions on Russia when Ukraine was failing to comply with Minsk 2, you are arming Ukraine with tanks, ATGMs, anti air missile systems, guns ammunition among other weapon systems, meanwhile imposing more sanctions on Russia and you expect Russia to continue to supply Germany with Gas ... hell mend you,you have fucked up your economy by doing America's biding at the cost of your own economy to the delight of America, one less competitor out of the way

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:17 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:They are already preparing a repair center for Leopard-2...

    June 13, 20:52
    Military operation in Ukraine
    Germany and Poland will open a repair center for tanks Leopard-2
    According to Bloomberg, negotiations on the establishment of the facility should be completed "in the coming days, before the start of the NATO summit in Vilnius."

    NEW YORK, June 13th. /TASS/. Germany and Poland have entered the final stage of negotiations on the establishment of a repair center for German-made Leopard-2 tanks handed over to Ukraine and knocked out by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. This was reported by Bloomberg.

    The talks are to be completed "in the coming days, before the start of the NATO summit in Vilnius" on July 11-12, the agency reports citing German Ambassador to Poland Thomas Bagger. According to him, it is planned to store spare parts necessary for the repair of German military equipment in this center.

    In April, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius announced an agreement on the establishment in Poland of a maintenance and repair center for these tanks. On January 25, the German government confirmed that it would send 14 Leopard 2s to Ukraine and issue permission to other countries to re-export these vehicles.

    On February 24, Germany decided to supply Kiev with 4 more pieces of equipment from the stocks of its armed forces, at the end of March it became known that 18 Leopard 2 had already arrived at their destination.

    The Leopard 2 is considered one of the most advanced battle tanks on the global arms market. However, one of the problems may be the complexity of the system, which is very demanding on maintenance, so it was decided to open a service center.

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/18000649

    How do you repair charred wreckage?

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    Post  franco Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:23 am

    The tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which turned out to be heavy losses for the enemy, seem to be revised. Military experts are predicting even fiercer fighting this week with thousands of Ukrainian reserves. According to some information, the enemy is pulling up 200 thousand people and a "tank fist" to the Zaporozhye line of contact.

    Experts do not rule out that the enemy will expand the front and decide to cross the Dnieper in order to divert the attention of our troops and occupy the left bank. A military expert, a former special forces officer, retired colonel Anatoly Matviychuk told why the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no chance in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, despite the huge reserve and the help of the West.

    The most "hot" is the situation in the Zaporozhye direction. Fierce fighting continues on the Vremevsky ledge, reminiscent of a tug-of-war. The enemy occupies the settlements, but soon again rolls back to their positions under the fire of our artillery and under the blows of our assault groups.

    So, the settlement Makarovka only on Monday passed from hand to hand three times. On Tuesday, June 13, the village was controlled by the Russian army, which drove the enemy out of this area.

    Harvest remains under the confident control of Russian troops. The main efforts here are concentrated on restoring the front line to the north.

    The settlements of Novodarovka and Levadnoe remain in the "gray zone": Ukrainian formations are preparing to rush to Rivnopol to cut off the rest of the Vremievsky ledge.

    Changes in enemy tactics are being observed by our fighters in the Orekhovsky direction of the Zaporozhye Front - the Armed Forces of Ukraine, due to the risk of huge losses, have become more cautious and have ceased to send columns to attack. As the fighters fighting on this sector of the front said, the enemy “rolls out” one or two cars or a couple of tanks, which shoot back and retreat to their positions.

    Assessing the battles in the Zaporozhye direction, former Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin specifically noted in his channel the command of the 58th Army and the Southern Military District: “Young and talented military leaders. Fearless officers. They constantly lead the troops, they know the situation in detail, since they personally went around the entire front line before the start of this battle.

    The battles in Zaporozhye, due to the huge losses of the enemy, have already been nicknamed by the people the “Azov massacre”, by analogy with the “Bakhmut meat grinder”. During the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, about 25 thousand people and 430 units of military equipment were left here. It is reported that our army has begun to use more aviation with guided bombs there in recent days. The blows fall on the near rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Orekhov.

    “According to our data, there is now a real “steppe massacre”. A lot of burning heavy and light armored vehicles. Losses are also large, ”Legitimny Telegram channel reports.

    Short-term achievements of no strategic importance, obtained at the cost of huge losses, are forcing Kyiv to change tactics and push through the front with even greater forces. So, according to the Telegram channel "Image of the Future", Ukraine is pulling up quite impressive reserves to the line of contact in Zaporozhye - about 200 thousand people. In addition, six mechanized brigades are preparing for battle, which include 490 tanks, combat vehicles and armored personnel carriers. They will supposedly be brought into battle in the near future, if not the next few hours.

    Zelensky demanded that the General Staff urgently open a "second front", as marking time does not give a tangible result. According to rumors, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny, who “disappeared from the radar”, was against this idea and proposed at a headquarters meeting to stop the offensive, regroup and wait for NATO aviation. However, Zelensky said no.

    According to some reports, Zelensky insisted on forcing the Dnieper above the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. According to official Kyiv, the water, after the dam was blown up, practically disappeared, and the riverbed is not so wide, so it can be forced with the help of special equipment, boats, pontoon bridges. The enemy intends to organize a dozen crossings in order to distract our attention, quickly seize a bridgehead on the other side and present this to Western sponsors as a victory.

    Perhaps, taking into account these plans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on the night of June 13, our Aerospace Forces carried out missile strikes on Krivoy Rog, where they brought too many Ukrainian reserves for the upcoming offensive.

    According to military expert Anatoly Matviychuk, the idea of ​​forcing the Dnieper could turn into a complete defeat for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    “Indeed, after the water leaves, the channel narrows, rapids and stones appear, which creates the illusion of free access to the right bank of the Dnieper,” he said. “But I don’t think it’s possible, because everywhere there are, firstly, minefields, and secondly, combined barriers - gouges, hedgehogs, “dragon teeth”, barbed wire. And only after that - our positions, with modern anti-tank weapons.

    It is unlikely that this will allow the enemy to successfully cross the river and, most importantly, to capture the defensive structures. Statements about forcing the Dnieper, in my opinion, are from the field of propaganda in order to create informational noise and distract the public, first of all in Ukraine, and then the West, from the losses that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now suffering. This is a kind of game so that the West does not stop its financial assistance to Ukraine.

    According to a former special forces officer, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 200,000-strong reserves concentrated in the Zaporozhye direction will not help.

    “Yes, there is evidence that reserves are being pulled up to the line of contact,” he said. “But we must understand that we have absolute air superiority, and the enemy, deprived of aviation, will not be able to do anything about it. The Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to concentrate their forces in the Kherson direction, but here we have already gouged them with our planes, helicopters. And, perhaps most importantly, we have not yet used our newest weapons - glide bombs and thermobaric munitions.

    https://k--politika-ru.translate.goog/ukraina-podtyanula-dlya-priazovskoj-rezni-200-tys-voennyx-nastuplenie-zaxlebyvaetsya/?utm_source=warfiles.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:29 am

    So the only "solution" is human waves. That is what the 200,000 pulled up to the front means. I find this number to not be credible,
    but even it is valid, then it is mostly poorly trained conscripts and not the trained troops the Kiev regime had last year. They have
    been losing soldiers too fast to allow long training intervals for new recruits. As has been informed multiple times, people are jacked off
    the street and sent straight to the front.

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    Post  Mir Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:36 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    How do you repair charred wreckage?

    It's amazing what a new coat of paint can do! Smile

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    Post  Hole Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:42 am

    Again, how many of these "200.000" are combat troops?
    If all of them would be front soldiers that would mean that the Ukros need between 400.000 and 600.000 troops
    to support them. Does anyone see that? No
    Otherwise we talk about untrained (very) light infantry with even enough ammo, fuel and food to
    sustain a week of operations.

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    Post  Hole Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:06 am

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #44 - Page 21 Fyhyib10
    Red square: current fighting, red line at the bottom: first(!) line of defence.
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #44 - Page 21 Scree733
    Whole area is littered with dead Ukros.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:15 am

    Hole wrote:
    Whole area is littered with dead Ukros.

    Only in this vid, there are close to 30 KIA. Some in pieces, so hard to calculate.
    One DOT was harvested by artillery, when Russkie took it seriously...
    To the folks who doubt daily reports about 150 KIA here, there, there and there ...

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:36 am

    There is no doubt that the NATO pact has given Leopard-2 tanks a death sentence.
    I think the Challenger-2s, which are very rare anyway in Ukroshitstan, will prove to be even worse.
    If they decide to continue sending Western tanks, then it will be Leopard-2 and Abrams..
    Although, I'm not sure that the American military industrial complex wants that.

    As for the French Char Leclerc and the Italian C1 Ariete, I think the Italians and the French can complain that they don't have replacements for those tanks because that is a fact.
    No other European country and member of the NATO pact has Leclerc and C1 Ariete, and therefore the mentioned two countries can say that their tanks are necessary for self-defense.

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    Post  walle83 Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:40 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:I'll give you an example and then you judge for yourself.
    The Serbian tank M84 was created on the basis of the export (downgraded) tank T-72M.
    The armor on M84 tank is much weaker than the armor on Russian tanks and especially from the latest T-72B modifications that the Russians have massively improved in recent years with the installation of Relikt ERA..
    I think the Bradley has absolutely no chance of even penetrating the engine compartment of any Russian tank.

    BMP-3 and BMD-4 have a better chance against Leopard-2 than Bradley against Russian tanks.

    Well here is a classic clip with a Ukrainian BTR with a 30mm gun stoping several Russian tanks.

    https://youtu.be/n-RXFhwCVaQ
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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:55 am

    Mir wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote:
    How do you repair charred wreckage?

    It's amazing what a new coat of paint can do! Smile

    Lipstick on a panzer?

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    Post  Ispan Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:01 am

    Today's indepth report

    Nothing much happened but a lot was said. After a pause, night attacks again in the Salient.

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/06/13/parte-de-guerra-13-06-2023/

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    Post  Regular Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:21 am

    walle83 wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:ter chance against Leopard-2 than Bradley against Russian tanks.

    Well here is a classic clip with a Ukrainian BTR with a 30mm gun stoping several Russian tanks.

    https://youtu.be/n-RXFhwCVaQ
    It was infantry that destroyed the tank. By the way, do you know what “OF” means? Oskolochno fugasniy.  Rolling Eyes

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    Post  Regular Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:29 am

    kvs wrote:So the only "solution" is human waves.   That is what the 200,000 pulled up to the front means.   I find this number to not be credible,
    but even it is valid, then it is mostly poorly trained conscripts and not the trained troops the Kiev regime had last year.   They have
    been losing soldiers too fast to allow long training intervals for new recruits.   As has been informed multiple times, people are jacked off
    the street and sent straight to the front.  
    This. Also we must not forget that Ukrainians have serious problems concentrating troops and keeping up with logistics. Even without VKS hitting them, they are in shambles. So their human waves are company size at best. Hence the slow progress even when it comes taking over screening areas.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:10 am

    Well,.... i try to respect the warning signs Alamo placed around his exhibits.

    One prefers to stay outside the range they can spew excrement at you.

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    RF Hurricanes



    RF Artillery





    RF SU-25's at Zaporozhye.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:13 pm

    Mir wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote:
    How do you repair charred wreckage?

    It's amazing what a new coat of paint can do! Smile

    Stop that jokes right now young man!

    But of course, charred wreckage can be repaired!
    In a smelter.
    Laughing Laughing

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:58 pm

    Regular wrote:
    walle83 wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:ter chance against Leopard-2 than Bradley against Russian tanks.

    Well here is a classic clip with a Ukrainian BTR with a 30mm gun stoping several Russian tanks.

    https://youtu.be/n-RXFhwCVaQ
    It was infantry that destroyed the tank. By the way, do you know what “OF” means? Oskolochno fugasniy.  Rolling Eyes

    Well the most important claim of the pro-West netizens is that the self-proclaimed wonderweapons such as Leo or Bradley can "significantly change" the battle situation in Ukraine.

    Howeever by far the only changes in the battlefield is that more Western equipments were destroyed and more Ukrainian humans were killed for the money pocket of the Maidan lords and their USA masters.

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    Post  Tolstoy Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:30 pm

    Nakidka and Bramble combined with a DIRCM system will significantly increase the survivability of Russian vehicles against ATGMs.

    Ukros are using aerosol screens against Kornets as the screen would block the view of Kornet operator for couple of minutes , however Kornet's laser will not trip a laser warning system, so there wont be any aerosol screen there in the first place. The screen is also effective at disrupting radar due to metallic particulates in the smoke.

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