Russian special military operation in Ukraine #46

PhSt wrote:

Despite several attacks on Ukrainian bases with Su 24s, they still fly and shoot Stom Shadows.

I'm just curious, doesn't Russia have optical spy satellites to view Ukrainian airfields from the sky and see where their planes are parked? I'm not an expert but I think with the right tools which Russia currently has it shouldn't be that difficult to locate and destroy airfields and hangars that house these planes

Ukro don't keep them on the airbases. Must be used from roads and change their location often.

They could even be used from neighbouring countries.

Why does NATO artillery outrange Russian ones? I think Artillery has less sophistication than, lets say TSMC's 8nm microchips so Russia shouldn't have that much difficulty in this area. If Russia has to resort to copying or stealing NATO arty tech as a temporary stop gap solution then so bet it as long as its on par with NATO and to even the arty duel in Ukraine.

Which NATO artillery outranges Russian?

How many do they have collectively?

Werewolf wrote:Which NATO artillery outranges Russian?

How many do they have collectively?

https://www.russiadefence.net/t1606p650-russian-gun-artillery-thread#433988

In the Gun Artillery thread its mentioned that wheeled and tracked NATO arty outranges the Russians.

GEROMAN -- time will tell - --
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4 Storm Shadow missiles were used here
2 shot down
1 missed (for whatever reason)
1 made that whole there.
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How much does one of those missiles cost?
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How expensive was that whole here?

JohninMK wrote:GEROMAN -- time will tell - --
@GeromanAT
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3h
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4 Storm Shadow missiles were used here
2 shot down
1 missed (for whatever reason)
1 made that whole there.
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How much does one of those missiles cost?
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How expensive was that whole here?

Looks like a pot hole in the upper midwest in the US. That thing will be open in a couple hours

ucmvulcan wrote:

Looks like a pot hole in the upper midwest in the US. That thing will be open in a couple hours

Yup, some shuttering underneath, some rebar plus a few loads of redimix concrete. Sort it properly after the SMO has ended.

Just smooth it out and put a metal plate over it and that's it. Can be repaired later.
And don't forget to draw the Red John smiley on it.

What is that vehicle next to the bridge transporting ?

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says military action in Ukraine will continue for the foreseeable future. According to Tass, Moscow does not want to conquer any other Ukrainian territories. But Russia wants to control the areas enshrined in its constitution. These are the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, annexed in 2014, and since 2022 the regions of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia and Cherson.
@NY Times

hese are the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, annexed in 2014, and since 2022 the regions of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia and Cherson. wrote:

Yes, and finally the territory of Ukraine will be stationed by NATO.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says military action in Ukraine will continue for the foreseeable future. According to Tass, Moscow does not want to conquer any other Ukrainian territories. But Russia wants to control the areas enshrined in its constitution. These are the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, annexed in 2014, and since 2022 the regions of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia and Cherson.

He's missing Odessa, Kharkiv, Dnipro Poltava Sumy

Stationing of NATO bases in West Ukraine , at the same time as supplying the Orcs for their offensive operations against Russian regions , can not be tolerated . Russia has said that it will not capture any more territory beyond the four regions . Although there are many regions with large Russian speaking populations in Ukraine , that would welcome becoming part of Russia . NATO can gradually reduce arms shipments to the Orcs , conditional to them withdrawing to Ukrainian majority areas in defensive operations only . NATO will then have little to fear from " Russian expansionism , " and will find no need to base troops in western Ukraine . The fate of Ukraine may then be decided by political means . If not neutrality , then an amicable divorce of West from East .

Attacking the civilian targets in war , has never been a secure means of defeating any enemy . Especially one that increasing gets military , political and economic support from outside sources , such as the Orcs . There is no real organic grassroots connection between the Orcs and the Ukrainian  population . However The extremist elements within the Ukrainian Army must be treated differently and harshly . Defensive tactics by Russia , in defending new regions , will exact a heavy price on the attackers .

The Engineering core , can develop fast repair apparatus for what is now predictable and standard holes in Bridges . I was thinking of Steel box-sections , that fit into place and extend hydraulic locking shafts into damaged sections . A kill zone around defensive areas , can be created by eradicating the Trees and vegetation . I have seen too many times , Orcs hiding among vegetation . Less need then for remote sensing . Simple LOS observation possible to direct fire , in open fields ..How can Trees be eradicated  : Chemicals to kill the Roots , fire to burn them in dry season .......a belt going all around the frontlines .

Russian senator promises new offensive in Ukraine, 08.06.2023.

Troops will go on a new offensive after “grinding up” enough of Kiev’s forces, Dmitry Perminov has warned.

The Russian military will go on the offensive once the situation on the ground becomes “favorable” for such an endeavour, Senator Dmitry Perminov, a member of the defense committee of Russia’s Federation Council, the country’s upper chamber, has said.

“We are currently grinding up the armed forces of Ukraine. When the moment is favorable for us, our army will go on the offensive,” Perminov told Russian news outlet URA.RU in an interview published on Sunday.

The senator expressed doubts that negotiations between Moscow and Kiev will happen any time soon, reiterating a stance repeatedly voiced by top Russian officials.

“The American masters are not allowing [Ukrainian President Vladimir] Zelensky to sit down at the negotiating table. Moreover, at their behest a law was passed that directly prohibits him from conducting negotiations with the Russian Federation,” the senator noted, referring to legislation adopted by Ukraine last fall.

Perminov also touched on Ukraine’s long-heralded counteroffensive effort, launched by Kiev in early June. The offensive did not yield any tangible results, resulting in heavy losses for the Ukrainian military, with thousands of servicemen killed or wounded, as well as a sizeable amount of Western-supplied military hardware lost.

Lack of progress has already angered Western handlers of Ukrainian authorities, the senator noted, apparently referring to numerous publications’ criticisms about Kiev’s lack of progress, as well as the heavy losses and questionable tactics of its troops.

“We see that their Western masters are dissatisfied with the results of the offensive. They expected more from them. These grievances are beginning to come out directly,” Perminov stated.

“For almost two months now, a counteroffensive has been going on but it has not led to any success for the Ukrainian nationalists. They lost a lot of their servicemen, manpower, and weapons that the West provided them,” he added.

https://www.rt.com/russia/580918-senator-new-offensive-ukraine/

Arrow wrote:

Yes, and finally the territory of Ukraine will be stationed by NATO.

It would be a catastrophic mistake not to grab areas like Odessa, Khakrov etc

Another War Crime perpetrated by Ukraine and its NATO Nazi hosts



https://t.me/combatfootageua/4922




In a desperate effort to conceal its arms and munition shipments, some ammunition is now in food packaging.

NATO Nazis started this trend, now Russia,China and the rest of the REAL Free world (Free from NATO puppetry and occupation) needs to have these items proliferate in the west to exacerbate gun violence and general lawlessness in the population.

PhSt wrote:Another War Crime perpetrated by Ukraine and its NATO Nazi hosts

https://t.me/combatfootageua/4922

https://i.servimg.com/u/f40/20/05/43/11/16913710.png

In a desperate effort to conceal its arms and munition shipments, some ammunition is now in food packaging.

NATO Nazis started this trend, now Russia,China and the rest of the REAL Free world (Free from NATO puppetry and occupation) needs to have these items proliferate in the west to exacerbate gun violence and general lawlessness in the population.

This ain't new, Bosnians have been doing it decades ago

Fun fact: Red Cross is the best distributor of firearms and ordinance

Another weird Ukrainian cartoon

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/58134

Warning: it's highly crappy

JohninMK wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:

Looks like a pot hole in the upper midwest in the US. That thing will be open in a couple hours

Yup, some shuttering underneath, some rebar plus a few loads of redimix concrete. Sort it properly after the SMO has ended.

It does not look like a Storm Shadow aftermath, first of all. It carries a 400+ kg warhead ...
The hole is almost identical to the ones made earlier in Artemovsky bridge with HIMARS.

lyle6 wrote:[
The T-84 is garbage.
Firepower is dogshit: Ukraine lacks the metallurgical expertise to produce a decent high-pressure smoothbore gun. The "KBA-3" can barely shoot the 40 year old 3BM42 subcaliber - and don't get me started on the ammunition. The basic T-72B3 btw, is armed with a modern 2A46M-5 gun and can fire the latest subcaliber shells except for those specifically designed for the T-14. Yes, the baseline Russian tank is far more lethal than Ukraine's best.
Armor is also crap. Ukraine's brand of ERA has shown poor effectiveness in actual combat compared to the old Soviet solutions - which is why most of their tanks use Kontakt-1 and Kontakt-5 instead of that garbage Nizh that only works in "tests". They also, don't weigh a **** ton that you have to remove the composite armor just to make the weight cut. Literal retard design bureau hours in Kharkov...

You are obviously mixing things, me thinks.
Like combining features of different versions.
T-84 Oplot was nothing other than Obiekt 478DU4 - modified T-80UD with increased localization. The difference was the KBA3 gun, better LLLTV channel, and additional monitor with ballistic data, and 6TD-2 engine of 1200HP.
It retained Kontakt 5, still it was still rearranged and supposed to be produced locally.
By saying it is crap, you are scrapping the T-80U and UD along
As for the early 90s standard, it was a fine tank.

For a tender in Greece, new version was constructed - T-84M. This one got a welded turret and Ukrainian Nozh ERA panels, with additional side skirts that were both thicker and wider. An alignment system of the gun and optical scope axis was installed. Thermo channel replaced LLLTV. This was a version that participated in two world tenders. Lost the one in Malesia to Polish PT-91M, and the one in Turkey was cancelled. Version for Turkey was using KBM-2 120 mm gun made for standard NATO ammo, and a new autoloader.

Objectively speaking, Obiekt 478DU9-1 and 478DU10, with PNK-6 panoramic sight and powerpack is better in some aspects than all Russian mods other than T-90M. Starting with reverse gears (a joke, you know?)
What was a problem, was the fact that Ukraine was not able to finance the project properly, ending up with a whole of 11 pcs ever produced. Out of which, four were sold to the US (two of those with Drozd APS system), one was rebuilt as Jatagan with 120 mm KBM-2 gun, and one was kept in Kiev armed forces academy, leaving a whole 5 pcs in ranks.
And a few Oplot M has been included in the arms plan only after 2009 ...

From 2011 perspective, this Thai version was not a bad choice in 50t class.