Russian special military operation in Ukraine #49

The only heir of Yevgeny Prigozhin, who died in a plane crash, was his son Pavel, who had also previously attended the Wagner PMC school, writes the Gray Zone TG channel. At the moment, the new command of the Orchestra is negotiating with the Ministry of Defense about the return of assault troops to the special operation zone.

According to the channel, the Wagner PMC intends to return to the Northern Military District zone, occupying one of the most difficult areas, under the guarantees of the Russian Guard, and not the Ministry of Defense. Negotiations are currently underway, the result of which should become known in the near future. The “Orchestra” is ready to send part of its detachments to the special operation zone, which will retain their symbols, their commanders, management and operating principles, although formally they will be registered in the Russian Guard. They promise to provide other details later.

At the moment, Prigozhin Jr. is negotiating with the leadership of the Russian Guard (FSVNG), under whose guarantees on private terms (without signing direct contracts), part of the personnel of the “musicians” will arrive exclusively as part of participation in this theater of military operations - writes the channel.

It was previously reported that detachments of the Wagner PMC had already appeared in the Northern Military District zone, but this was part of the Orchestra that did not participate in the campaign against Moscow together with Prigozhin. These detachments operate under the command of "Sedoy".

Before this, there was already information that the Wagner group wanted to go under the wing of the Russian Guard, but without signing contracts and preserving their name and everything else, and supposedly the FSVNG command made a corresponding promise, but in words. On September 22, the Council of Orchestra commanders held a meeting on this issue, but did not come to a consensus.

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I wouldn't bother with them anymore. Instead, get them to continue work in Africa and maybe use them elsewhere while using Russian Army for Ukraine.

NATO states have tested all the red lines without any indication of a significant response. The announcement of British troops serving in Ukraine (no doubt they already are) will be the first of several, most likely.

I would say UK instructors openly being in Ukraine (they were there all along) is preparing the UK public for soldiers coming home in body bags... now whether that is to get the public to rise up against the war or to demand the UK does more to fight the Russians remains in question... is this to give them an out or is it to give them a green light to escalate further?

This makes decapitation a piece of cake.

An interesting chart that seems to get everything we know about the missile slightly wrong...

It is launched from MiG-31Ks and they think the Tu-22M3 might be suitable but we have never seen it carrying such a missile.

200km altitude sounds rather excessive... that is actually space... now this would make drag as low as possible and it has thrust vectoring with its rocket motor so it would be able to fly in space but I am not sure it does.

Its high speed and manouvering capacity does make it hard to intercept, but it also has onboard sensors to detect air defence systems and incoming active radar homing SAMs and AAMs so it can evade those too, plus decoys and jammers it can release to distract defences too.... it is a clever bugger...

Its guidance and navigation system would not need to be modified because it is air launched, in many ways the Kinzhal is the Iskander with an extra flight stage... a jet powered MiG-31K booster system to get it into the air and moving before it is launched.

The warhead information is probably not too far off, though 500kg payload is probably 100-150kgs light.

And it is claimed to be 2,000km range, not more, and flight speed is declared to be about mach 9, which is slightly faster than the Mach 7 to 8 of the Iskander.

Has there been any confirmation that Su-34 will carry Kinzhals, I would think it is rather more likely they would be adapted to air launched Zircons instead.... being half the weight and an easier shape to carry.

(MiG-31Ks are big aircraft and sit rather high off the ground.)

I suspect its probably a simple politics, running out of reasons to allocate dead bodies to. So the need a real reason that they can use.

Not just that but in their eyes these guys are fighting the good fight against Russia so it is a bit disrespectful having to say they died in a car accident or plane crash...

British soldiers will not be sent to Ukraine, Sunak says

So they tested the waters and the water was cold and muddy... does that mean they will bring the ones there home?

From what I have observed so far terrain hugging cruise missiles like the Kh-101 has been the deciding factor and not supersonic and hypersonic cruise missiles like Onyx and Zircon.

Ukraine have been unable to intercept either even with PAC-3 Patriot missiles...

The point is that low flying subsonic cruise missiles carry a good payload and appear to have excellent accuracy, but for deeply buried targets like big ammo bunkers and HQ bunkers deep under buildings those hypersonic and supersonic missiles like Onyx and Kh-32 and Kinzhal seem to be excellent at not just penetrating defences but also concrete and soil and rock to reach into those hard to reach places.

Many of the hardened military places in Ukraine were from the cold war and are build solid to stop nuke attacks and these missiles with much better accuracy seem to be reaching places other weapons would struggle to reach.

I think they make an excellent combination that compliment each other rather well.

considering their launches of Geran, are they going to launch like 10,000 of them on kyiv when a major offensive starts? its not like they launch them everyday.

I would think launches would increase but hitting targets behind and near the front line would be a good way to soften them to make any advance easier and less costly for Russian forces.

Stealth only reduces the range of radars. I said once you detect it it is easy to shoot down.

Not really. Its low flight altitude means most SAMs would have to be pretty close to the missiles flight path to have any chance of launching missiles at it before it has flown past and out of range.

We saw kh-101 using their jamming effectively which could complicate the interception though.

For the jamming to be effective it needs to have effective sensors on board to know when it is under attack and to deploy the jammers and decoys at a suitable time for them to be useful. If it just jammed and decoyed at random that would actually attract the attention of the air defences.

Not being able to chase them down in an aircraft makes them rather difficult for the Ukraine to deal with.

Of course having F-16 would not make a huge difference because MiG-31s could use cruise missile launches as a chance to hunt F-16s hunting cruise missiles.

I think he realized this was the best thing he could do. Last thing the Brits need at this point is to send bear meat.

Zoo keeper put up a sign recently to not feed the Bears... good to see one tourist is reading the signs...

Right, but Spiderman needs some more practice, as he is saying bla't, nie dolietiela. Missed the range

His elevation did look a little high, but it might have been a long range shot.

The first assault detachments of the Wagner PMC are flying from Africa to Russia; they will join the fighting on one of the sections of the contact line. The main part of the "Orchestra" returns to the Northern Military District zone after four months of absence. This was reported by the Rybar TG channel.

There have been rumors about the appearance of detachments of the Wagner PMC in the Northern Military District zone for the second week now. Indeed, fighters of the “musicians” have already appeared in the Artemovsk direction, but they represent the “volunteer assault corps”, i.e. that part of the company that remained with Troshev and is now supervised by the Ministry of Defense.

Now the detachments of the main part of "Wagner" are returning to the NVO zone, while we are talking about three assault units. Moreover, they return with their flags, commanders, structure, etc. Reportedly, the council of commanders and Lotus reached an agreement in principle with the Russian Guard on the conclusion of contracts, both individual and group. The command of the Russian Guard guaranteed the preservation of the flags, names, etc. Let's think that such a decision was approved at the very top; Zolotov will not go against Putin.

As Rybar writes, the financial conditions in the “assault corps,” which is supervised by the Ministry of Defense, and in the Russian Guard are the same, so the soldiers sent on leave in the spring can choose between Sedy and Lotos. It is believed that most will prefer to stay with the old part of the company, also because of the name.

It is not yet clear where the new “Orchestra” detachments will be deployed, but they will not intersect with the “Corps” detachments. It is assumed that they will be included in a certain reserve that is being prepared for the autumn-winter campaign.

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Russia lost 4,274 confirmed KIA during Ukraine's Summer Offensive... avg of 40 KIA per day, very far from the 500 KIA per day often brought up by some "analysts". Meanwhile, how many men did Ukraine lose as the attacker? 5x more?

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Will be good testing those Iranian munitions for both Russia and Iran.

And don't forget the ~40 military biological research facilities run by everyone's favorite "uncle sam"