Russian special military operation in Ukraine #49

Arkanghelsk wrote:Meanwhile 500 + days and Russia without Wagner is incapable to take Avdeyevka, Kupyansk,  and gets pushed from Verbove and Rabotino

But they say "300,000" are waiting somewhere

allow me to say the truth, 50,000 KIA, and 200,000+ wounded, and you have the reality, volunteers are enough to replace the frontline troops, and to create a rotational reserve

For Russia, cargo 200 or 300 is irrelevant, they are combat ineffective anyway and removed from the frontline

And yes 200,000 wounded , maimed by mines, drones, shrapnel, splinter, and other wounds, they are recognizable as they are relatively young and in crutches or wheelchairs, or in blue MOD suits

It is a defeat of a scale of Tsushima,  Russia has to wait for American political events to happen to have any hope of an agreement in Ukraine - and call it attrition war

The west smashed Russia in Ukraine, Russia can keep destroyed donbass, Lughansk, and evacuated Crimea (the BSF has largely been moved to Novorossiysk)

And the west will simply redirect its efforts to Armenia and Kazakhstan when the time is right

The clock is ticking for Russia, but they bank on some kind of economic downturn, or perhaps a political scandal to save them -

The worse part is, if by dumb luck they are saved by such events - they will manage not to be routed, but they will still be defeated

The goals of the SMO were to remove NATO to 1997 positions, and to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine

Fast forward, and Finland is preparing military installations near Lagoda and Karelia

Crimea is not even a saving grace, as losing Moskva, a submarine, and multiple landing ships make it impossible to use for any purpose other than as a missile sponge

Another symbolic waste by incompetents in Moscow, maybe Gergiev can play Prokofiev there for old times sake

ucmvulcan wrote:

You should get a job with the New York Times or Washington Post.  Of course, maybe you are actually pro Russia.  In that case, you remind me of the Gloom, Despair, and Agony on me song from the American folk music anthology show Hee Haw.

Ark wrote:Meaning interdiction in western black sea is only possible via aerial interdiction

Ark wrote:the Americans can keep persistent Global Hawk over Crimea

Ark wrote:And Russia cannot manage a persistent combat airpatrol of AWACS and fighters over its own fucking territory

Ark wrote:Crimea is useless now,

Ark wrote:start hitting the planes

Arkanghelsk wrote::
Russia Withdraws Black Sea Fleet Vessels From Crimea Base After Ukrainian Attacks




   

to think this all started, because of the annexation, oh whoops! Sorry "reunification" of the historic Russian land! Crimea! Sevastopol!

 

We're on a roll here with evictions:

Sevastopol, Kharkov, Kiev, Kazakhstan, Nagorno Karabakh, soon Erebuni

Bahahahaha

Arkanghelsk wrote::
Russia Withdraws Black Sea Fleet Vessels From Crimea Base After Ukrainian Attacks




   

to think this all started, because of the annexation, oh whoops! Sorry "reunification" of the historic Russian land! Crimea! Sevastopol!

 

We're on a roll here with evictions:

Sevastopol, Kharkov, Kiev, Kazakhstan, Nagorno Karabakh, soon Erebuni

Bahahahaha

kvs wrote:NATzO clown deciders just need to wish harder to make their desires come true.  

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Mir wrote:Nobody in their right mind wants to get killed on a voluntary basis - unless you are an extremist - but sometimes when the chips are down you will have to stand up and fight for what is rightfully yours. Russians have made great sacrifices over the centuries - and they will do it again - and again.

Fighting for what? Some unknown village? For NATO to be on the Karelian border? To be humiliated before the world?

Noone expected this to be such a disaster, but if you want to talk about doubling down on incompetence, Moscow is the shining example

unfortunately we must deal with this leadership for the foreseeable future,

we are not even respected by monkey Azeris lol, we are the last on the food chain, a walking placard for global loserdom, we replaced cuba, Arabs, Africans, and north Koreans with stunning results

Whether Biden wins or not will have very little to do with the final outcome - which is not very far off into the future.  

The final outcome of permanent war inside of Russia is already achieved

TMA1 wrote:

About Russia moving many of its vessels it is thr smart thing to do. The west is trying to goad Russia to move before it is ready. I don't know when Russia will move but they will inevitably have to. Much life will be lost. It is sad. But right now Russia is doing what it must.

Arkanghelsk wrote:“Based on Mediazona, we talk about 50,000 KIA”

From all sources combined - roughly 70k for each side. Doesn’t mean it’s real number or represent reality. Sources for horses. 

“And WIA, we speak of 150,000 at a minimum using classical KIA/WIA ratio”
classical thinking doesn’t work here. I will tell you why

“While Ukrainians don't have MEDIVAC luxury of Russian army, and their KIA/WIA ratios are lopsided”
Ukrainians technically should have better MEDIVAC and care than Russian army due to medivac vehicles and territory where they can send injured to hospitals when Russia cannot have same level. But in reality, hate drops kill MEDEVAC attemps, it’s very hard to evacuate. And now Ukraine is attacking and their lines are in the fire zone so evacuation is very risky and it doesn’t matter how good their medical is. 

“Russia does have the luxury to evacuate its wounded, and granted many of them are minor, but many are grave like dismemberment, organ damage/failure, and general trauma from war”

Both Russia and Ukraine have hard time evacuating, but advantage is that rear is safer for Russia. Still, I wouldn’t call it a luxury. Those at screening lines are on their own. Much better at main defence lines, but surely, not much action there

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“As for Crimea, it was already confirmed the navy had been evacuated to Novorossiysk”
Took them long enough. There were people saying this after Moskva.

“Meaning interdiction in western black sea is only possible via aerial interdiction”
CAP is best tool.

“Ergo, the Odessa grain corridor is de facto open - which is pathetic, the Americans can keep persistent Global Hawk over Crimea”
What insurance company will cover boats trying to do de-facto grain transport? Also, nothing apart physical destruction of a drone by a jets exhaust caused ISR assets to stop working against Russia. 

“And Russia cannot manage a persistent combat airpatrol of AWACS and fighters over its own fucking territory”
why is that?

“So yes, Russia has been evicted de facto from a Crimea”

Navy perhaps, but what about Simferopol? Air defence systems? Fortifications?

“The counteroffensive turned out to be a major success”

No 

“They didn't have to breach Tokmak, or Melitopol”

They have to

“It turns out even without ATACMS they were successful ,

A dozen storm shadows and voila, Crimea is useless now”

Crimea didn’t sink just yet. 

“You can't base ships there, and next theyl start hitting the planes “

they already did hit the airfields like… year ago?

“And based on recent pictures of fucking su57 in the open, Ukrainians have rich target environment”

I am all for hangars for Su-57 due to sophisticated equipment being exposed, but not because of Ukrainians. 

“But Moscow doesn't care anymore how stupid they look in front of the world, as long as they can continue to steal from the people,  and keep up this charade of multipolarity and "resistance" “

Not a fan of current Kremlin, but I don’t think that war is helping them steal, lol. You can blame people for being slow, useless, idiots, but no one went to fight this just so they can steal more. 
For whole Russia, it’s an existential war… 

ucmvulcan wrote:

You should get a job with the New York Times or Washington Post.  Of course, maybe you are actually pro Russia.  In that case, you remind me of the Gloom, Despair, and Agony on me song from the American folk music anthology show Hee Haw.

This Ameri-clown makes Vann look normal.