2023 Israel–Hamas war

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The nature of the world , is such , that it allows no uniformity . No two physical locations , situations , are identical . In people terms , this means a diversity of identities of languages and customs . This leads to identity politics , different tribes and nationalities . In geographic regions , where there is a greater flow or movement of different populations , there is more tribal or national conflict . Building unitary homogeneous states , in these regions fails . You end up with small statelets , that do not last long and have a fractured and transient nature . The way to overcome this problem , is to recognise these facts , and allow for the existence of small , independent , statelets with each having a more homogenous character , living side by side . And not allowing one side an offensive superiority , to displace others ! For this region it means having two or three statelets , with their respective populations and with arms limitations . Each statelet must be viable , have access to the Sea , mines , water etc .

Eugenio Argentina wrote: Emir of Qatar announces that if the bombing of Gaza does not stop, he will stop the supply of gas to the world.

Good to see not all gulf arabs have been sucking up to zionists lately.

Maybe Qatar is anticipating Iran to be dragged into this war, in which case they would blockade all oil tankers in the Persian Gulf. Qatar has relatively good relations with Iran, so they don't want to be dragged into a possible conflict with them.

This war is a new experience for the IDF. The population in Gaza is not supposed to be capable of doing this.

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Last Saturday, fighters from Gaza shot down a regime helicopters carrying 50 IDF soldiers.

All died.

starman wrote:

Eugenio Argentina wrote: Emir of Qatar announces that if the bombing of Gaza does not stop, he will stop the supply of gas to the world.

Good to see not all gulf arabs have been sucking up to zionists lately.

Qatar is the major supporter of Hamas, not Iran. Qatar also supports Turkey. All are basically Muslim Brotherhood supporters.

Last Saturday, fighters from Gaza shot down a regime helicopters carrying 50 IDF soldiers.

Western MSM will claim that the helicopter was on a peaceful humanitarian mission, delivering dog food to little puppies.

The western media itself admitted that Hamas is an Israeli concoction. The purpose was to prevent a Palestinian Hezbollah emerging. So this attack, by definition, was an Israeli false flag. And we see how Israel is pushing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

The wreckage shown in the photo is not anything like the CH-53 in the video. It is a much smaller helicopter with a different tail structure.

So, was there a shoot-down or is this claim BS?

kvs wrote:

The western media itself admitted that Hamas is an Israeli concoction.   The purpose was to prevent a Palestinian Hezbollah emerging.   So this attack, by definition, was an Israeli false flag.   And we see how Israel is pushing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza.  

That Israel created Hamas is an invention of Western analysts.
Hamas emerged as a response to Israeli oppression and the PLO's lack of combativity.
The best proof of the weakness of these analyzes is that since Hamas appeared, the Palestinian Resistance became stronger.
Furthermore, Hamas is one of the many militant organizations (such as Islamic Jihad) that have emerged in recent decades, taking the place of the PLO, with its tougher and more efficient stances, to counter Zionism.

I don't see the step joint between the tail rotor section and the "boom" leading to the main fuselage. Maybe it is a photoshop. But helicopters are very vulnerable aircraft to MANPADs so it is an academic discussion.

Hamas is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood which is a pure US-Israeli proxy. The 2011 "Arab spring" was engineered colour revolution. The typical NATzO tools of "dissident" youth movements driving street protest theatre followed by militants was engaged. As in Ukria.

It is obvious that the Hamas attack is a great pretext for Israel to finish off the two state solution. They are clearly pushing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza and will ramp up their settler land grabs in the West Bank. The world has to cry for Israeli suffering and look the other way as vastly more Palestinian civilians get butchered to placate Israeli "suffering". The 3000 people who died in the 911 attack at the hands of the US's Al Qaeda proxies served the same purpose as the 1200 Israelis who died at the hands of Israel's Hamas proxies.

Note that the evil west accuses Russia of doing what it does itself. So we had the cockamamie claim that Russia staged the August 1999 apartment bombings as a pretext to invade Chechnya. As if the 700 people killed by the NATzO sponsored Chechen warlords during their invasion of Russia in Daghestan earlier in the year was not any sort of valid pretext. Imagine if militants from Mexico invaded a part of the US and the US would just sit back and do nothing because that was not enough pretext. The filthy, lying west and all of its verminous supporters can all go and get f*cked.

kvs wrote:Hamas is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood which is a pure US-Israeli proxy.    The 2011 "Arab spring" was engineered colour revolution.    The typical NATzO tools of "dissident" youth movements driving street protest theatre followed by militants was engaged.   As in Ukria.  

It is obvious that the Hamas attack is a great pretext for Israel to finish off the two state solution.    They are clearly pushing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza and will ramp up their settler land grabs in the West Bank.   The world has to cry for Israeli suffering and look the other way as vastly more Palestinian civilians get butchered to placate Israeli "suffering".    The 3000 people who died in the 911 attack at the hands of the US's Al Qaeda proxies served the same purpose as the 1200 Israelis who died at the hands of Israel's Hamas proxies.  

Note that the evil west accuses Russia of doing what it does itself.   So we had the cockamamie claim that Russia staged the August 1999 apartment bombings as a pretext to invade Chechnya.   As if the 700 people killed by the NATzO sponsored Chechen warlords during their invasion of Russia in Daghestan earlier in the year was not any sort of valid pretext.   Imagine if militants from Mexico invaded a part of the US and the US would just sit back and do nothing because that was not enough pretext.   The filthy, lying west and all of its verminous supporters can all go and get f*cked.

It is not at all obvious, since no evidence is provided for these assertions.
Apart from that, Hamas emerged in the 1980s, with that name, but its antecedents date back to the 1970s with organizations created at that time by Sheikh Ahmed Yasin, who founded Hamas in 1987 and who was assassinated by Israel on March 22, 2004.

Conspiracy theories don't add much except confusion. Neither the USA nor Israel needed excuses to attack other countries or repress the people.
It is enough to look at history to realize the dozens of conflicts in which these two countries participated.
Even before Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah or any other organization existed.

Regarding the Muslim Brotherhood, it is an organization that emerged in 1928, so it is already almost a century old.
And he dedicated himself to fighting Imperialism, obviously a few decades before the United States influenced the Middle East.
So to say that the Muslim Brotherhood is a creation of the United States is not only false and naive but an anachronism, typical of those who "analyze" history, only through the Internet or through Hollywood movies.

The media is an Israeli propaganda machine, just as they were with Ukraine.
Donald Trump criticized Israel, considering that it is surrounded by Zionists. Another point for him.

Video | The Islamic Resistance destroys sites belonging to the Israeli enemy in the Kafr Shuba hills and occupies #مزارع_شبعا #جنوب_لبنان with rockets and artillery shells.


https://twitter.com/TVManar1/status/1713171721132351502

AlManar correspondent Ali Shoeib: the Islamic Resistance is bombing and shelling the radar and Roweisat Al-Alam "israeli" outposts

Egypt refused to let the Americans and rest of foreigners to leave Gaza through Rafah crossing .

Egypt insisted that the deal must includes the delivering of humanitarian aid to Gaza .

Good, i didn't expect that move.

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Hezbollah has published a statement saying:

“At 3:15 pm today, Saturday 10/14/2023, groups of the Islamic Resistance attacked the Zionist positions in the occupied Lebanese Shebaa Farms: Al-Radar, Ruwaisat Al-Alam, Al-Samaqa, Zibdin and Ramtha, with guided missiles and mortar shells, inflicting precise and direct hits on them.”

I think Israel about to launch ground offensives . The BBC reports that " almost a million Palestinians have left northern Gaza , " And this " fact " is hard to establish , in the absence of any evidence : showing a few stragglers with mattresses on their cars , travelling ! This means that the English Zionazis , who work hand in glove , with Israelis , will not report on mass civilian casualties , since " almost a million have left already . " This is in direct contrast to actual reports from interviews by Gazans , saying " we can not go anywhere , nowhere is safe , even a truck full of civilians , was deliberately targeted by Israelis ! " Hold on to your hats , it is going to be bloody indeed !