2023 Israel–Hamas war

Some observations : First it makes no sense for Zionist forces to launch ground offensives in the North of Gaza . Since Egypt remains the supply route for Gazans . And in order to destroy Hamas , they need to encircle them , in the South . As long as Hamas is connected to Egypt , then it remains a fighting force , operating even from small area . Therefore problem exists for Zionists , even if all civilians are killed there by bombing . Therefore Palestinians must be careful and not concentrate all forces to the North . Second , no harm in Syria and Lebanon , to launch patrol Boats and Drones in the Med , near the English and American forces . Gather information at least about them and test defences . Also a demonstrative , less than lethal attack or warning could be carried out , to test their Radar and defences . Finally all neighbours of Israel can simultaneously launch unmanned recon units across borders , air , ground or sea launched , at the same time . These units send strong message . Egypt across Gaza , Jordan across border , Syria across Golan , Lebanon across border . Again to assess defences , and can stage less than lethal demonstrative attacks . A drone or two from Iran , dropping leaflets on Israel , would be a good start too .

Elite units of the Qassam Brigades of the Palestinian resistance deal with Israeli children.
Fighting is ethics
Not like the Israeli occupation army and its leaders who kill children and women in Gaza and commit war massacres and genocide against civilians.

https://twitter.com/EnglishGaza/status/1712873118430089418

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ISF military says one of its drones is striking “Hezbollah targets” in Lebanon

Sensitive images: The “Righteous” Israeli Regime bombed journalists with a missile in southern Lebanon, killing one of them and wounding others

https://twitter.com/Syribelle/status/1712858224632938590

Respect to the Palestinian resistance!

At some point these Zionist war criminals might use their nuclear force, if they loose their war. I would like to ask how the world would react in this case.

We know that on a morale level the Western world is extremely disappointing. They support Ukrainian Nazis and all the Zionist genocidal activities.
However, Pakistan might retalitate with its nuclear force, if Zionists nuke any Muslim country including Iran. Iran itself might finalize its nuclear program in time to retaliate against Israel.
Although i hope that at some point Russia and China will promise to protect Muslim countries with their own nuclear umbrella, so the Middle East will not start a dangerous nuclear arms race. A nuclear Iran or Saudi Arabia is probably not in China's/Russia's interest.

13 Oct. 2023

Press release by Hamas

We adamantly reject to be expelled from our homes once again. We will resist Israel’s attempt to ethnically cleanse Gaza. Our unwavering determination is to resist Israel’s pursuit of ethnic cleansing in Gaza, firmly resolved to prevent a second Nakba from unfolding. The current developments in Gaza represent an extraordinarily audacious and brutal endeavor to forcibly remove the Palestinian indigenous people from their land.

Israel has publicly declared its plan to commit genocide against Palestinians.

The Zionist entity, supported by Western governments, has conducted a war of intense bombardment, releasing more than 6,000 bombs upon Gaza within the past week. Nearly 500 children have been tragically killed as a result of the intense bombardment, carried out by the Zionist entity. They have targeted mosques, a church, educational institutions, residences, and medical facilities with bombings, yet it is our people who are erroneously branded as terrorists.

Today, we have seen the mobilization of millions in the Arab and Muslim world, extending their support to the courageous Palestinians in Gaza. We express our heartfelt gratitude for their solidarity and implore them to continue, urging them to march to the borders and play their part in this historic juncture that promises the restoration of our freedom and the dignity of all Arabs and Muslims.

To our allies living in western countries, the free noble people of those societies. You too have a role to play, to pressure your governments to abandon their support to Netanyahu and his fascist government. To correct the lies of the media, lift this barbaric siege on our people.

Yes what the Zionists are doing is inhumane, it is unprecedented, it is barbaric and contravenes all the laws and treaties that the so-called free and democratic countries claim they believe in. But our resolve is unbreakable. We will not surrender our legitimate fight for freedom and self-determination. We will either live standing tall or we will die fighting.

Izzat Alrisheq

Member of the political bureau of Hamas

The shooting down of the F-16i was not confirmed.
The image in the video appears to be that of a downed drone.
It is said that they have fired at Israeli planes, but unfortunately, as yet, no shoot-down could be confirmed.

SolidarityWithRussia wrote:Respect to the Palestinian resistance!

The explosion in the sky , if not CGI , is far bigger than drone , therefore could be jet ! Also if it gets to the point of a limited Nuclear exchange , would you rather it be Russian or Iranian ? I know that if the tables were turned , and Iran had Nukes and Russia none , in the European theatre , then I for one , would prefer Russia to have own Nukes for confrontation , than Iranian Nukes . In fact I think everyone needs Nukes !

par far wrote:This is a little bit unrelated question, Israel is using phosphorus bombs, from the air by the looks of it.

Is safe to say that Iran has phosphorus munitions capabilities?

If Iran does have phosphorus munitions capabilities, it will of course be in artillery shells or missiles, would Iran have given the phosphorus artillery shells or missiles to Hezbollah or the capabilities to produce it themselves?

Also how effective is phosphorus bombs dropped from air against firing from artillery or missiles?



This is a question I wondered about, anyone with knowledge, please provide a answer, Thank you.

This weapon sucks and does very little damage.it's jist impressive but that's like little fire around you. You can just enter a home nearby and be very well protected.

It's just as shitty as launching unguided rockets and missing by a km.

Isos wrote:

par far wrote:This is a little bit unrelated question, Israel is using phosphorus bombs, from the air by the looks of it.

Is safe to say that Iran has phosphorus munitions capabilities?

If Iran does have phosphorus munitions capabilities, it will of course be in artillery shells or missiles, would Iran have given the phosphorus artillery shells or missiles to Hezbollah or the capabilities to produce it themselves?

Also how effective is phosphorus bombs dropped from air against firing from artillery or missiles?



This is a question I wondered about, anyone with knowledge, please provide a answer, Thank you.

This weapon sucks and does very little damage.it's jist impressive but that's like little fire around you. You can just enter a home nearby and be very well protected.

It's just as shitty as launching unguided rockets and missing by a km.

From what I have read, it can burn metal and construction materials, I don't know if this is true or not.

Hussein
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Gaza massive rocket launches toward Ashdod and “Tel Aviv” israeli occupation settlements

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It ( white phosphorus ) is useful against people or troops caught in the open ! It sticks to skin and burns ! Also the fumes are toxic ! Israeli homes have underground shelters . All of them ! They also all have weapons at home . No such thing as civilians in Zionaziland . They also have Nukes and strong Air force . The only way to defeat them , is by large land Army , advancing rapidly and occupying them . So they can not use Nukes or Air force .

I'm pretty sure that Iran gave enough guided missiles to destroy israeli air force to Hezbollah and SAA.

They only have around 200-300 planes.

Their AD can be saturated and jammed during the attack by drones and unguided rockets.

According to wiki, iran has 4500 fateh-110. This missile from Lebanon can cover all Israel with its 300km range. That's what they are afraid of. A well coordinated attack with satelitte data would destroy all israeli air force and navy in 30min. That's why US are putting pressure.

However Hezbollah seemed serious about their redline of a ground offensive in Gaza. So this attack may happen in couple of day. Israeli invasion is planned very soon.

Isos wrote:I'm pretty sure that Iran gave enough guided missiles to destroy israeli air force to Hezbollah and SAA.

They only have around 200-300 planes.

Their AD can be saturated and jammed during the attack by drones and unguided rockets.

According to wiki, iran has 4500 fateh-110. This missile from Lebanon can cover all Israel with its 300km range.  That's what they are afraid of. A well coordinated attack with satelitte data would destroy all israeli air force and navy in 30min. That's why US are putting pressure.

However Hezbollah seemed serious about their redline of a ground offensive in Gaza. So this attack may happen in couple of day. Israeli invasion is planned very soon.

How would Hezbollah get satellite data?

Banners reading "Genocide Gaza" and "Victory looks like zero people in Gaza" hang in Tel Aviv.

Western values.

This thing is a battery. Just made with civilian grade parts I guess.

Made by MacGyver.

How would Hezbollah get satellite data?

Open source? Or via Iran from Russia and China.

Iran has it's own satellite data , on Israel . It can launch LEO spy satellites for almost real-time data on position of planes . Many military Airfields have known GPS even . The problem is that Americans may bomb any attempt to launch Rockets , by their navy group . How long to launch , will it get hit ? Also some planes in shelters , will they get damaged ? And how many intercepted by SAM ? Can they kill all the planes ? Stop bombing of Gaza by NAZTO ? Well they still got Artillery , Mortars , Rockets , Tanks . Can not stop bombing of Gaza , by simple launch of Rockets . Need troops on the ground . Need to take out the American carriers first .

Eugenio Argentina wrote:Wikipedia is not a reliable source.

I know but it should be in that range.

Fateh-110 is their baby weapon. They are producing it for years now even decade. Early 2000s.

Syria is producing its own version.

This thing is meant to counter western powers in the middle east. They are giving them left and right to friendly forces so that with its 300km range it can hit any US base or Israel for that matter.

They also have some cruise missiles that can fly low for a combined attack.

Their drones are also very good.

For satelitte data it is very easy to get it. Plenty of arab states have their own satelitte including Iran and they wouldn't mind helping hit israeli air force.

I'm pretty shocked that israeli are that dumb to attack like this. They are uniting all the arabs and any good analyst would have known that. It seems like its Netanyahou who just fucked up and believe US will protect him. Meanwhile US are surprised and totally scared and I doubt they will start another war with the muslim world with all that drone and missile tech accessible for any paramilitary group. Even more scared now that Russia will happily supply even iskanders to anyone wanting to hit the US, let alone satelitte data. It will be open bar in the Caspian sea for the arabs.

So what does a Gaza evacuation mean ?

What would happen if Israel just took all of Gaza ? Would anyone try and prevent it with force ?

Backman wrote:So what does a Gaza evacuation mean ?

What would happen if Israel just took all of Gaza ? Would anyone try and prevent it with force ?

Gaza is 2 million people. Entering there will be a nightmare for israeli. Egypt already said they don't wabt gaza people into sinai.

Hezbollah already saif if they start a ground operation they will attack. Iran will keep sending weapons and drones.

US will kick in and all their bases will be wiped out by iranian BM.

Israel will be under constent drone attack for the next 10 years. Their AD will be overwhelmed and all their critical infrastructure will be destroyed.

They better stop right now IMO but Netanyahou is pushing.

The coverage of this war is just atrocity arms race by both sides.  It is rather tiresome.

Gaza is supposedly an open air prison. And it does look like that. But the birth rate is 40th in the entire world which is high. How do these ppl live? They are funded by the countries that want to de legitimize Israel. They are using it to keep Israel off balance. If Israel is dissolved , the Jewish ppl there will want another place to go. Is there any practical place for them to go ? They should have taken the offer to settle in Crimea. They were offered an Oblast there.

The only way to solve the conflict is for one side to win. And one side is never conceivably going to win. So the whole thing is just an exercise in insanity by both sides.

To those dedicated to the cause, where should the Jews go ?

Backman wrote:The coverage of this war is just atrocity arms race by both sides.  It is rather tiresome.

Gaza is supposedly an open air prison. And it does look like that. But the birth rate is 40th in the entire world which is high. How do these ppl live? They are funded by the countries that want to de legitimize Israel. They are using it to keep Israel off balance. If Israel is dissolved , the Jewish ppl there will want another place to go. Is there any practical place for them to go ? They should have taken the offer to settle in Crimea. They were offered an Oblast there.

The only way to solve the conflict is for one side to win. And one side is never conceivably going to win. So the whole thing is just an exercise in insanity by both sides.

To those dedicated to the cause, where should the Jews go ?

The solution to this is the UN resolution, that Russia pushing for.

Backman wrote:The coverage of this war is just atrocity arms race by both sides.  It is rather tiresome.

Gaza is supposedly an open air prison. And it does look like that. But the birth rate is 40th in the entire world which is high. How do these ppl live? They are funded by the countries that want to de legitimize Israel. They are using it to keep Israel off balance. If Israel is dissolved , the Jewish ppl there will want another place to go. Is there any practical place for them to go ? They should have taken the offer to settle in Crimea. They were offered an Oblast there.

The only way to solve the conflict is for one side to win. And one side is never conceivably going to win. So the whole thing is just an exercise in insanity by both sides.

To those dedicated to the cause, where should the Jews go ?

In a Palestinian state, Jews, Christians and Muslims lived together, as it was before Israel was created.
In fact, in Iran the Jews live very well and even have deputies.