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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:43 pm

    Saraya Al-Quds - Jenin Brigade: We announce the start of a campaign of widespread attacks and raids on settlements in the Jenin enclave and military checkpoints in response to the aggression and attacks against civilians and security forces in Gaza.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:50 pm

    Hamas heavy rocket: Ayyash 250.

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    It is 9.6 meters long, range 250 km, warhead weighs 600 kilograms, load can be about 400 kilograms.
    If it contains prefabricated shrapnel, the damage radius can reach 600 meters.

    It appears to be inspired by or based on Iran's Zelzal 3B rocket.

    It has the ability to attack anywhere in Israel.

    The rocket was named for Yahya Ayyash, a top Hamas bombmaker who was responsible for dozens of Israeli deaths before he was assassinated in 1996.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:51 pm

    Haven't really paid attention to this clusterf**k (kinda automatically zoned out when it hit and completely took over media) but can't ignore it any longer. The scale is immense, and now there's a ground invasion looming, as well as reports of numerous IDF jets having been shot down.

    Just wow.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:08 pm

    Haifa under fire (highly likely the Refinery)

    Iron Dome, David's sling and Patriot failed to intercept this missile.

    What will they do with Hezbollah's Fateh 110

    https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1712807867365941280

    The Ayyash 250 heavy rocket may have been used in this action.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:11 pm

    Smoke rises after a Palestinian resistance rocket hit an Israeli base in Haifa


    https://twitter.com/PalHighlight/status/1712816798645530833

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:16 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Haven't really paid attention to this clusterf**k (kinda automatically zoned out when it hit and completely took over media) but can't ignore it any longer. The scale is immense, and now there's a ground invasion looming, as well as reports of numerous IDF jets having been shot down.

    Just wow.

    I was showing that already, but seems nobody get the point Embarassed
    So again Laughing

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    It is an old Strela 2M with a thermal battery replaced by ... something that looks like a sanitation pipe Shocked Laughing Laughing

    Those MANPADS were out of service mainly because of this sole factor - lack of batteres.
    Nobody produced them for 30 years.
    Because of that, those were available on both legal and black market, sold as non operational.
    The last big batch of missiles, were exGDR ones that Berlin delivered to Ukropistan. We talk about thousands of those.
    And as only this week there are films of multiple cases of using those in Gaza, and every single time there is this strange pipe sticking out, it seems to be some ad hoc created, yet functioning solution making them operational again.
    Honestly, I lack the imagination to guess who has finally received them, because those can be in hands of every terrorist group o th planet Earth by now.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:17 pm

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    Let us try to describe one of the possible scenarios of further escalation in the Middle East.


    The Palestinian uprising begins in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Mahmoud Abbas cannot contain the situation, and seeing Israel carrying out a full-blown genocide in the Gaza Strip, the Palestinians launch an all-out revolt. The IDF continues to massacre civilians in the Gaza Strip. There are growing protests around the world against Western pro-American liberal elites standing unanimously in favor of Israel. Hezbollah gets involved and crowds of Arabs from Jordan break through the cordons at the border. The U.S. launches preemptive strikes against Iran, which is increasingly involved in the conflict, and Iran strikes back against Israel. Syria enters the war, attacking the Golan Heights. There is a rapid mobilization of the entire Islamic world.
    Pro-American Islamic states - Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar etc. - are being forced to join the confrontation on the side of the Palestinians. They are joined by Pakistan, Turkey and Indonesia. The story of the Taliban sending troops to the Middle East from fake news becomes reality. The black banners of Khorassan are hoisted over the world.
    Problems between Salafists and traditionalists, including Shiites, fade into the background. The great jihad of the Islamic world against the West and Israel is beginning.
    Russia takes first a neutral position, but does not rush to support Israel, as it is at war in Ukraine with the West, which in turn is completely on Israel's side.
    At some point in the uprising in East Jerusalem, Palestinians proclaim the need to cordon off the Al-Aqsa Mosque for protection from the IDF. Al-Aqsa Mosque was mentionned in the beginning of the uprising in the Gaza Strip -- Al-Aqsa Flood. Israel, in the course of fighting armed Palestinian militias and in self-defense, launches a rocket attack on the mosque. It collapses. The path to building the Third Temple is cleared. But... a billion Muslims, of whom 50 million (officially) are in Europe, start an uprising now in the West itself. Civil war erupts in Europe. Some Europeans are on the side of LGBT, Soros and Atlanticist elites, and some make an alliance with Muslims (on the model of Alain Soral) and join the anti-liberal Revolution.
    The US uses tactical nuclear weapons against Iran. Russia launches a tactical nuclear strike against Ukraine, which seeks to cling to the West at any cost and provokes Moscow in every possible way.
    World War III erupts with the use of tactical nuclear weapons. Russia finally makes up its mind and sides with the Muslims. American dispensationalists realize that the hour has come. Russia is attacking -- albeit indirectly -- Israel. Gog is here. In the Russian vision, the West is under direct rule of Antichrist. Many world leaders die, new one with far more radical beliefs appear.
    China attacks Taiwan, distracting the U.S. and NATO to a new target. India refrains from the direct support the US is counting on. The evening of history ceases to be languid.
    Feminists, gay activists and environmentalists demand an end to it all, but no one listens to them.
    The West is forced to fight against everyone in the name of some goal it can no longer articulate - all the old theses about “human rights”, “civil society” and other incantations have disappeared in the harsh reality of the coming total death. Elon Musk admits that he has completely stopped understanding what is happening.
    Israel is beginning, under blows from all sides, to build the Third Temple. Only Moshiach can save the situation…
    This is where the text of the predictive analysis (prophecy) abruptly ends.

    https://twitter.com/Agdchan/status/1712816246289273230

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:20 pm

    In response to the Israeli massacres, the Palestinian resistance bombs the headquarters of the Zionist northern region command in Safad city with an “Ayash 250” missile

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:25 pm

    Nabilah Noufal, the youngest victim of Israeli genocide in Gaza, was only 7-days-old!

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:29 pm

    Israel is demanding that 1.1 million Palestinian civilians leave their homes in Gaza.
    For perspective, Israel could displace every human being in Boston and Miami COMBINED, & that would still not reach the scale of displacement they want in the besieged strip with nowhere to go.


    https://twitter.com/OmarBaddar/status/1712821211648946357

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:34 pm

    Footage shows smoke rising after the Palestinian resistance launched ‘Ayash 250’ rockets at Safed, in the north of occupied Palestine


    https://twitter.com/PalHighlight/status/1712818736133017712

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:35 pm

    The resistance in Gaza still has many cards, and this afternoon there was a development in the West Bank and in targeting northern occupied Palestine, as well as an attempt to target an F16 plane.

    The battle is constantly developing hour after hour, and the leadership of the resistance in the region is following moment by moment the course of the battle.


    https://twitter.com/dana916/status/1712818601575772585

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    Post  Mir Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:10 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    It is an old Strela 2M with a thermal battery replaced by ... something that looks like a sanitation pipe

    Maybe it has something to do with the higher ambient temperatures in the ME?

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    Post  Mir Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:10 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Alexander Dugin

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    Let us try to describe one of the possible scenarios of further escalation in the Middle East.

    Lets hope this remains a "possible scenario".

    BUT it is Friday the 13th you know! pale pirat

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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:16 pm

    Russia launches a tactical nuclear strike against Ukraine,
    Why should Russia drop a nuke on her own territory? scratch

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:22 pm

    Banners reading "Genocide Gaza" and "Victory looks like zero people in Gaza" hang in Tel Aviv.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:24 pm

    Mir wrote:

    Maybe it has something to do with the higher ambient temperatures in the ME?

    I don't think so.
    This thing is a battery. Just made with civilian grade parts I guess.
    And considering that every single one shown had same system attached - it is a serial and proven solution.
    They actually showed firings of the missile which would not be possible without power supply unit operating.
    Batteries were always a weak spot for Strela. Once activated, it lasted for about 30s which was sometimes not enough to execute a start sequence properly. Not to mention you had just one chance, and after that the battery was to be replaced. Evry operator has spare batteries in his backpack, usually 3 of them.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:24 pm

    Alexander Dugin's analysis starts well, but then goes a little astray.
    Especially when nuclear weapons begin to be launched everywhere.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:26 pm

    🇶🇦🇵🇸 Emir of Qatar announces that if the bombing of Gaza does not stop, he will stop the supply of gas to the world.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:31 pm

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:33 pm


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    🇮🇱🇵🇸 The Hamas movement reported a successful strike with an Ayash-250 ballistic missile on the headquarters of the IDF Northern Military District in Safed.

    The Israelis confirmed the launch and reported intercepting the target, but later footage of the arrival at the Haifa refinery appeared. Whether this was an accurate hit from another similar munition or the fall of the remains of a downed missile is still unknown.

    Coordinates: 32.7942786, 35.0605214

    The nuance is that both Safed and Haifa are located more than 150 km from the Gaza Strip, which confirms the Palestinian group’s ability to hit targets virtually throughout Israel.

    This is the second documented use of the Ayash-250 by Hamas, having previously fired it at Ramon Air Base in the Negev Desert during the last escalation in 2021.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:35 pm

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    Palestinian Missile Reportedly Lands Near Maccabi Tel Aviv's Bloomfield Stadium 🏟

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:41 pm

    A great people...they come out under the roar of planes and bombardment, refusing displacement...and cheering for the Palestinian resistance and its chief of staff, Commander Muhammad Al-Deif Abu Khaled 🇵🇸

    https://twitter.com/GNNANOW/status/1712838350074159480

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    Post  par far Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:23 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Russia launches a tactical nuclear strike against Ukraine,
    Why should Russia drop a nuke on her own territory? scratch


    I don't get it either.

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    Post  par far Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:45 pm

    This is a little bit unrelated question, Israel is using phosphorus bombs, from the air by the looks of it.

    Is safe to say that Iran has phosphorus munitions capabilities?

    If Iran does have phosphorus munitions capabilities, it will of course be in artillery shells or missiles, would Iran have given the phosphorus artillery shells or missiles to Hezbollah or the capabilities to produce it themselves?

    Also how effective is phosphorus bombs dropped from air against firing from artillery or missiles?



    This is a question I wondered about, anyone with knowledge, please provide a answer, Thank you.


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