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    2023 Israel–Hamas war

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:13 am


    The Zionists (with the help of their allies, the mainstream media), are trying to show the complicity between ISIS and Hamas. A position that has some followers in this forum.

    Yeah, they do that a lot... I remember when they were getting ready to invade Iraq they were desperately trying to provide evidence that Saddam was working with Al Quada and I seem to remember a pro American person presenting information he claimed proved the link, but when you actually read the evidence that was presented at the time it showed that Saddam was actually fighting Al Quada and that Al Quada was actually fighting on the side of the Kurds in Iraq whom the pro Americans had been building up as victims and potential allies in the fight against Saddam.

    The reaction to having that pointed out was very amusing and now links to Al Quada were no longer bad if the fight was right... ie Al Quada bad except when fighting Saddam... or Assad.

    Stop confusing Zionism and National Socialism. They look like idiots.

    Their methods begin to merge and become similar, especially their treatment of their perceived enemy.

    You could say Zionist = Nazis, but then you would have to accept that the British and French and other colonialists also introduced the idea of Reeducation or extermination so a triangle of Zionists and Nazis and Colonials in a hate triangle you could probably add extreme communists too as well to become a quad.

    The Israelis attacked Syrian airports. Wasn't it under Russian protection with its anti-missile system? I mean, does that crap work?

    Russian protection for Syria is against ISIS and Kurds and not the US or Israel... except when it comes to protecting Russian forces... perhaps they might decide to change that moving forward...

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    English language please. This is an English language forum and it is part of the rules that all posts be either in English or with a summary in English... and that includes Russian language text too.

    This is what I think also. They already got Syria involved in this, Iran will slowly be pulled into this. In the next 2-3 weeks, they will hit Iran, one way or another.

    The irony is that they thought they got what they wanted in Ukraine as well, but it didn't turn out the way they expected and now I suspect they want a way out.

    Hitting Iran is not the end but the start of their problems...

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    Post  Sujoy Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:38 am

    ALAMO wrote:That would be a case, if not the fact that the US are not capable of effectively battling Iran.
    Without substantial Russian support how will Iran fight against US? Already US is trying to pin Russia down by getting Israel to bomb Syria.

    China, I've always maintained is a US ally, they won't help Iran either.

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    Post  nomadski Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:21 am

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    And why should they not ? Who is stopping them ? The Iranians have said for a long time that " ...The liberation of Lebanon , was shouldered by them , but that the liberation of Palestine , is the responsibility of the Umma . " Apart from some financial charity by Iran to the Palestinians , and attempts at supplying perhaps self - defence small arms , they have by and large done nothing else . Even to the point of not retaliating back at Israel , for bombing and killing Iranian advisors in Syria !

    There are some , a few , in Iran , that believe in supporting Palestine in practice . But Iran itself is in turmoil now , most recently another woman , suffering injuries after a brush with security , over Hijab . At least this is the narrative . We are only a few months away from incidents of gas mass poisoning of school children , by elements associated with security services , and blinding and killings of protesters ,  by the state ! The Palestinian fight , for the reactionary right wing , is a perfect moment to distract from their crimes . In fact they openly claim victory , by saying " The Al- Aqsa storm operation , silenced all voices within the reform movement ( A democratic movement ) . "

    The story with other Arab and Muslim states is no different . Even worse ! Theatrical demonstrations and bland statements , devoid of any practical help or action , in the face of western / European / American / Zionist genocide ! Even India or their leadership , Johny come lately , Slumdog millionaire , Liberal elite , make statements in support of genocide . Russia and China at best , call for a two state solution , without offering any practical help to achieve this . Like the ethnic cleansing in NK region , carried out by the Turks and overseen and supervised by Russia , is an indication of today's political realities ! Destroying the weak , to help the mighty ! Not my problem !A problem that will come knocking on their children's or grand children's  door !


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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:27 am

    Sujoy wrote:
    Without substantial Russian support how will Iran fight against US? Already US is trying to pin Russia down by getting Israel to bomb Syria.

    China, I've always maintained is a US ally, they won't help Iran either.

    Maybe you have missed the whole Afghanistan thing scratch
    It is a 80 mln country with its own MIC complex. Quite an impressive one.
    Extremely heavy terrain.
    Located in a spot where it can choke the worldwide economy in minutes.
    Sure, the Muricans can beat them any minute. With a 300k army forces. Any fukin' minute!
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    Post  Sprut-B Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:03 am


    Israeli special forces doesn't look impressive in real combat. Also the uniform they're wearing doesn't blend with environment. They don't have multicam?

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    Post  nomadski Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:41 am

    https://en.mehrnews.com/news/207049/13-Zionist-abductees-killed-in-Israeli-airstrikes-Hamas


    The Zionists are killing own hostages ? Terrible , why don't Palestinians claim responsibility ? It is obvious they killed them . Put corpses on display for proof and to get demands met or the Fish to bite and come in ?

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:53 am

    Without substantial Russian support how will Iran fight against US?

    Have you not been paying attention to Ukraine... Iran probably has it own naval drones and of course large numbers of ballistic rockets that might have trouble hitting a specific house but an aircraft carrier is a huge and distinctive target in the middle of the ocean.

    Iranian air defences seem to be pretty good too in terms of SAMs... actually probably better than HATOs airdefence, and there are US bases throughout the region that Russia could hammer with ballistic weapons if they wanted to.

    Russia could supply anti ship missiles in fairly significant numbers... how many US carriers do you think the US would accept losing?

    Drones are a challenge for a country like Russia that has very very good air defence... do you think they wont be any problem for the US Navy, or UK ships in the area?

    Already US is trying to pin Russia down by getting Israel to bomb Syria.

    More likely to piss Russia off and make them defend Syria territory from outside uninvited guests...

    Syria has Bastion... which is ground launched Yakhont...

    China, I've always maintained is a US ally, they won't help Iran either.

    The Chinese are under US sanctions regarding a lot of strategically important technologies... they really are not friends.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:05 am

    Now THAT is what you call a crowd Shocked

    Their Governments may bow to the US but the people on the street?

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:11 am

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    Post  starman Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:13 am

    Hole wrote:
    Maybe it´s time for Sisi to show that he has some balls. Move your tanks to the border and open a direct passage to Gaza.

    Egypt won't go that far, now, but this war signifies the beginning of the end for "peace" and "normalization" in the region. As the bloodbath worsens, pressure will mount on the capitulationist regimes. Soon we may see a whole new region, in which inter-muslim conflicts give way to refocus on Israel. Long overdue.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:21 am

    This seems to be the part of Gaza that the Israelis are planning to drive the Palestinians out of. If they succeed the other part will be mighty crowded.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:41 am

    Israel cannot expel the Palestinians from Gaza, nor occupy part of that territory.
    On the one hand, it would put the Western international community against it, which would not accept that, and on the other, Arab and Muslim countries would react more harshly against Zionism, even militarily.
    A situation like this would not suit either Israel (beyond its usual bravado) or the USA.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:46 am

    The constant instability in the Middle East shows that the world has returned to a situation similar to the worst moments of the Cold War.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:48 am

    🇵🇸🇮🇱 “The moment a Palestinian father and his son were killed by Israeli settlers near the village of Sawiya, adjacent to the Nablus-Ramallah road in the occupied West Bank, earlier today.”

    -Palestinian Media

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    Post  starman Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:51 am

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:[b]Israel cannot expel the Palestinians from Gaza, nor occupy part of that territory.
    On the one hand, it would put the Western international community against it, which would not accept that,

    I wouldn't underestimate the power of Israel's poodles in the west. It seems no matter what Israel does, there's no shortage of people willing to exculpate it. They dominate government, media...


    and on the other, Arab and Muslim countries would react more harshly against Zionism, even militarily.

    I'm afraid the best we can hope for now, essentially, is an end to so-called "peace" and "normalization" deals.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:51 am

    Those are massive amounts of rockets above the sky of Askalan, some are being intercepted.


    https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1712761518888976701

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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:58 am

    McDonald's is donating free meals to Israeli occupation soldiers
    Good news for the Palestinians. This will lead to obesity and more heart attacks.

    US soldiers illegally stationed in Israel
    There is an official american base in the occupied territories for a few years now.

    The City Police had to intervene, seized the flag and opened a report against the subject for violating article 125 of the Contravention Code
    But it´s OK to wave Bandera flags in stadiums.

    France bans all pro-Palestinian protests
    But it´s OK for Bandera fans to demonstrate.

    o bomb most countries in the world.
    Begin in South Carolina.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:02 pm

    Apparent successful naval infiltration into Zikim israeli settlements

    Confrontations between Palestinian Resistance and israeli forces currently ongoing on beachside

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:11 pm

    The Al-Qassam Brigades target an israeli occupation soldiers' gathering in "Kfar Saad" with two suicide drones of "al-Zawari" type.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:13 pm

    Al-Qassam Brigades announce they are targeting Tel Aviv with rockets

    Al-Qassam Brigades are targeting Ben Gurion Airport in response to displacement and the targeting of civilians.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:37 pm

    Hamas fired long-range rockets at Ben Gurion Airport, where American planes carrying weapons arrive.


    https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1712770780205916364

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:54 pm

    Media coverage: "Angry #Palestinian protesters engage Israeli occupation forces at Huwara military checkpoint, south of Nablus, in protest of the Israeli aggression on Gaza."


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:07 pm

    Zionism, apart from being terrorist, spends its time spreading lies.
    So everything that comes from his side, you have to take it with a grain of salt, since it is not reliable.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:20 pm

    🇮🇱🇵🇸 Israel just killed 30 KIDS and 11 UN workers at UN schools in Gaza.

    "The dead included 30 students, five teachers, a doctor, an engineer, a counselor and three support staff.”


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