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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:03 pm


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    Israel has dropped the equivalent of “a quarter of a nuclear bomb” on Gaza, according to the Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:20 pm


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    🔹Hezbollah's entry into the war means the use of more than 130 thousand rockets, which is enough to attack major Israeli cities.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:22 pm

    🇮🇱🇵🇸 THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN ON THE ZIONISTS:

    A new poll this week showed that support for Israel is cratering among young Americans. There has been a staggering collapse in support, support for Israel's recent actions in Gaza fell from 81% among those over 65, to just 27% among the 18-34 demographic.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:47 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:
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    🔹Hezbollah's entry into the war means the use of more than 130 thousand rockets, which is enough to attack major Israeli cities.

    We will see how this plays out and if they get involved.
    Now with NATO on it's logistical knees with no more equipment and munitions to give Ukraine and Russia coming out of the gate with a fresh offensive.

    Israel's enemies will not get another chance like this for decades to come.

    Hezbollah is currently one of the most skilled millitary's out there.
    during the ISIS war they expanded rapidly and quickly refined itself into an actual professional military power.

    Their intelligence is top notch, having agents that speak fluent hebrew and arabic.
    Their millitary has currently a lot of practical experience in actual warfare.
    Very, very well equipped with both Russian and Western weaponry.

    If you look up how Hezbollah came to be and how exactly their organization operates, it is deeply impressive.
    unlike israel's tick-tock princes and princesses, most in the ranks of Hezbollah grew up being an target of Israels indiscriminate cross-border bombings and attacks.
    They are a bit differently motivated by such experiences starting from childhood.

    got some archival footage of their combat in Iraq and Syria.





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    Post  Isos Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:01 pm

    So iranian foreign minister said preparative action could happen this night.

    My guess is a show of force with iranian weapons against israeli AD systems and lot of merkava destroyed in a short time. We will see.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:36 pm

    ⚡ Mojtaba Amani, Iran's ambassador to Lebanon tweeted that the warnings of Iran's foreign minister should be taken seriously and that israel should stop its killings, otherwise action may occur without prior warnings.

    https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1714039033083330574

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:42 pm

    https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2023/10/16/2972841/exclusive-us-commanders-assume-role-in-israeli-operations-against-gaza

    Sources say that some of the Israeli high command are desperate, that they did not expect the organization of Hamas and that they have asked the Americans for support who suggest not attacking Gaza because it could be a disaster for the Israelis.
    Plus, they don't have the foggiest idea how to handle the hostage problem. It's much worse than Black September in Munich

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    Post  GarryB Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:09 pm

    The US wants to assert its power. Two carrier groups with F 35 are quite a show of strength,

    The west builds weapon systems but does not build defences against those same weapon systems... so they will build a powerful air force, but not the air defences to stop an enemy air force.

    It has built a powerful carrier centred navy but while they use drones and missiles against their enemies they don't expect their enemies to use missiles and drones against them... making them very vulnerable.

    The USS Cole was seriously damaged by an explosives armed speed boat, how would those British type sea surface drones do against a US carrier?

    I would think the Russian model would have rather more HE to be a bit more effective on target...

    I think only Syria has P-800s, and only a few of them. A large saturation attack is needed against an aircraft carrier group.

    Is it? We have seen the countermeasures and other equipment their cruise missiles deploy to penetrate air defences... do you think their big heavy anti ship missiles don't have that too?

    Moreover, Syria will not dare to attack CVN that much.

    Not dare because there is a risk the US might attack them... and take half their territory... or steal their oil?

    If they hit one do you think the rest will stay?


    A new poll this week showed that support for Israel is cratering among young Americans. There has been a staggering collapse in support, support for Israel's recent actions in Gaza fell from 81% among those over 65, to just 27% among the 18-34 demographic.

    Israel should be quite upset because most US media are biased in their favour to an extent that those numbers are actually rather bad for Israel.


    got some archival footage of their combat in Iraq and Syria.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:44 pm

    The Jews in no way expected such hostility from the common people and lack of support for Israel. They thought that the means of communication and indoctrination had been sufficient. That is why they hesitate to advance on Gaza, added to the military disaster that it could mean.
    This is something new.
    I think the Iranians are the fucking Joker and I have no doubt that Russia gave the go-ahead. It was a masterstroke on a geopolitical level.

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    Post  nomadski Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:09 am

    Iran decides where the American ships , should be ! Under the Sea , or in the Arabian Sea , or the Med Sea or the Red Sea ! Should they take any action against Lebanon , in support of Zionist crimes in Gaza . They don't have enough Ships , nor carriers , nor supply ships , for a sustained and timely bombardment , across the entire ME ! Also agree with GarryB very good statements , regarding " having nothing to loose . " I said this also a while ago , about retaliation by Syria to Israel , for attacks . They can hardly do much more damage to what is now Rubble ! It is obvious that normal economic development , for Iran and ME and Russia / China, is impossible or difficult  with present interventions by  the Americans / English / Zionist / allied European nations . The social disturbances in Iran , instability , a direct consequence of economic war . Don't shoot each other , shoot the enemy !

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:52 am

    The Tel Aviv regime is blalantly expressing their fascist viewpoint.

    For such criminals no word can get to them. Only fists.

    https://www.rt.com/news/585101-israel-no-crisis-gaza/

    Israeli Ambassador to London Tzipi Hotovely has denied that a humanitarian crisis was unfolding in Gaza.

    “Israel is in charge of the safety of the Israelis. Hamas is in charge of the safety of Palestinians,” the diplomat argued.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:52 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:
    If you look up how Hezbollah came to be and how exactly their organization operates, it is deeply impressive.

    It was impressive even a long time ago, back in 2006.
    The difference with 2006 war was the fact, that it was the very first military conflict that broke the western (Israeli) media monopoly.
    Because of the smartphones with quite decent cameras already widely spread.
    It became impossible to deny the reality, as it used to be a standard practice for CNN only a few years earlier.
    Now, you could just watch how Merkavas are being blown to pieces by dismounted light infantry armed with Russkie or Iranian missiles.
    Older than the shooters, in some cases.
    Manipulation became extremely complicated, and the Arabs learnt the lessons of propaganda either.

    I have a funny thought, that Hezbollah now is about 10x the force it was back in 2006, while Cahal is about half ...

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    Post  ahmedfire Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:53 am

    US is nasty .

    Americans asked Egypt to let the American citizens and foreigners to pass through the Rafah crossing but Egypt refused unless an agreement is reached to allow the delivery of water, food and medical supplies to the Gaza Strip .

    Now the US put more pressure on Israel for ceasefire not for the Palestinians but to release the US citizens .

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    Post  ahmedfire Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:08 am


    Egyptian minister of health and Second Army commander on Rafah crossing .

    https://twitter.com/SinaiTribes/status/1713898508367831330

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    Post  nomadski Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:43 am

    higurashihougi wrote:The Tel Aviv regime is blalantly expressing their fascist viewpoint.

    For such criminals no word can get to them. Only fists.

    https://www.rt.com/news/585101-israel-no-crisis-gaza/

    Israeli Ambassador to London Tzipi Hotovely has denied that a humanitarian crisis was unfolding in Gaza.

    “Israel is in charge of the safety of the Israelis. Hamas is in charge of the safety of Palestinians,” the diplomat argued.

    I said in Ukraine " If you have to shoot through a Nazi civilian to kill a Nazi , then do it ! " But here in Gaza I am saying " Do not shoot through a freedom seeking civilian to kill a freedom fighter ! " It all depends in the end , on what these people stand for ? Their values and ideas . In Ukraine the Nazi ideology is rampant among a lot of the population and their fighters . In Palestine , the idea of an independent state , with rights is prevalent among population and their fighters . Some will die , others will live !

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    Post  jhelb Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:50 am

    This is probably directed at Hezbollah

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    Post  starman Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:10 am

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:
    A new poll this week showed that support for Israel is cratering among young Americans. There has been a staggering collapse in support, support for Israel's recent actions in Gaza fell from 81% among those over 65, to just 27% among the 18-34 demographic.

    In addition, support for Israel is almost certainly lower among educated Americans than those with at most a high school diploma--people who couldn't even put Israel or Gaza on the map.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:45 am

    Hundreds of American Jews attended a protest in front of the White House organised by Jewish organisation IfNotNow on Tuesday to show solidarity with Palestinians and urge US officials to negotiate a ceasefire.

    "It is an atrocity that is happening. We refuse to let our grief be used as a weapon."

    "All of our grief is not an excuse for a genocide."

    "Joe Biden, stop funding genocide in my name !"





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    Post  Hole Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:00 am

    as well as roughly 2,500 Marines
    I hope the ships are carrying 2.500 bodybags.

    After seeing the videos posted by Airbornewolf some days ago, the attacks on military installations of the occupiers,
    you clearly realize why the western MSM is talking so much about that "festival" and "massacres". Showing or even
    aknowledging the pure existence of such videos would be a devastating blow for Israel.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:00 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:
    If you look up how Hezbollah came to be and how exactly their organization operates, it is deeply impressive.

    It was impressive even a long time ago, back in 2006.
    The difference with 2006 war was the fact, that it was the very first military conflict that broke the western (Israeli) media monopoly.
    Because of the smartphones with quite decent cameras already widely spread.
    It became impossible to deny the reality, as it used to be a standard practice for CNN only a few years earlier.
    Now, you could just watch how Merkavas are being blown to pieces by dismounted light infantry armed with Russkie or Iranian missiles.
    Older than the shooters, in some cases.
    Manipulation became extremely complicated, and the Arabs learnt the lessons of propaganda either.

    I have a funny thought, that Hezbollah now is about 10x the force it was back in 2006, while Cahal is about half ...

    In 2006, when the confrontation with Hezbollah occurred, large social networks such as Facebook, Twitter and others were not popular. In my country (Argentina) they had less development.
    The way to "chat" was using emails: Yahooo, Gmail, etc.
    The information about that confrontation was obtained from Internet pages and some forums, which were becoming popular at that time.
    Today there would be a big difference, with the massive use of cell phones with their cameras.
    In fact, the Hamas operation was widely publicized before the Israelis could react.
    Images could be seen of the elimination of Zionist weapons and soldiers, in addition to mass kidnappings.
    More recently, we already have images of casualties in the clashes between Israel and Hezbollah in the border area with Lebanon.
    Added to all this are the constant rocket attacks (which still cannot be stopped) that reach the entire Israeli territory, where the population lives in terror, constantly going to shelters.
    If the fighting expands, there will be many casualties in Israel and we will have to see what happens when images of dead soldiers, destroyed tanks and rockets raining down in large quantities are widely disseminated.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:03 am

    Australian Senator Lydia Thorpe - independent and the first aboriginal in Australia gives powerful condemnation of Israel's genocide of Palestinians in parliament.

    How dare Australia place the Zionist terror flag on the opera house

    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1714073304825466881

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:15 am

    https://www.facebook.com/altumaizi/posts/pfbid02SqbmXD64rHZWfUAbP2Ee5kz3VgoPJDE67a24GFeVnZPPdMLfV9M4xeer1WitTAJ9l

    In front of a wailing wall

    Written by Nguyễn Quang Thiều
    Translated to English by Higurashi Hougi
    Translated to Arabic by Saadi Salama, Palestine Ambassador in Vietnam


    Note: in the Mahmoud Darwish there is a Wailing Wall, inside the wall are the speakers which broadcast the recorded screams and wails of Palestinians imprisoned by Israel government. Visitor have to put their ears to the wall to hear it.

    This is not the Wailing Wall
    In Jerusalem
    But the wailing wall
    In the museum
    Dedicated to Mahmoud Darwish
    The person who write the bleeding poems
    About his lost Motherland.

    Please put your ear to the wall
    You will hear
    The painful wails
    The sorrowful screams
    Of the Palestinians
    Inside the prison
    Built on their own homeland.

    Nowadays the relgious people
    Come to the Wailing Wall
    In Jerusalem
    To ask for blessing.

    And I come to a wailing wall
    In a museum dedicated to a poet
    To listen to the wail
    Of the souls who have lost their Freedom.

    قصيدة للشاعر الكبير  Nguyễn Quang Thiều نجويين كوانغ تهيو ،
    رئيس اتحاد كتاب فيتنام بعنوان
    من أمام حائط المبكى
    من امام حائط المبكى
    ليس "حائط المبكى" في مدينة القدس
    إنه حائط مبكى متحف الشاعر محمود درويش
    يكتب الناس قصائد تنزف دماء كل ليلة
    إلى الوطن المفقود
    ضع أذنك على الحائط
    سوف تسمع صرخات الألم
    صرخات الحزن
    من الفلسطينيين
    في السجون
    في وطنهم
    في كل يوم يصل المؤمنون إلى "حائط المبكى"
    في القدس
    لطلب البركات
    ومن أمام حائط المبكى
    في متحف الشاعر درويش يأتي الناس
    ليسمعوا صرخات
    الأرواح التي فقدت حريتها
    حزيران 2023
    ترجمة سعدي سلامة

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:40 am


    Arya 🇮🇷
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    🚨 Occupation artillery is shelling the vicinity of the town of Aita Al-Shaab (South Lebanon), near the border with occupied Palestine.
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    Post  ahmedfire Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:52 am

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:
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    🚨 Occupation artillery is shelling the vicinity of the town of Aita Al-Shaab (South Lebanon), near the border with occupied Palestine.

    In response to Hezbollah ATGM , initial report about some Israel wounded and killed soldiers .
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:02 am

    Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan: "Israel's unprecedented bombing of Gaza, resulting in a significant number of civilian casualties, and its disruption of electricity, water, and fuel supplies, essentially subjecting the area to deprivation and hunger, is unacceptable."

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