2023 Israel–Hamas war

par far wrote:afternoon, an anti-armor projectile was fired at a Merkavah 4 tank east of Khan Yunis."
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Would this have done any damage to the tank or the crew?[/quote]

Engine seems to be touched. Not destroyed but damaged.

par far wrote:

Eugenio Argentina wrote: Hamas releases footage of a drone dropping a tandem cumulative grenade from an RPG-7 onto an Israeli Merkava Mark IV tank.

https://t.me/intelslava/52470

According to Hamas: "Yesterday, Thursday afternoon, an anti-armor projectile was fired at a Merkavah 4 tank east of Khan Yunis."

Would this have done any damage to the tank or the crew?

The rear of Turret ( not Hull ) was hit . I noticed that it had hatches on hinges and handles to open upwards , where RPG hit! Therefore armour can not be heavy ! What therefore inside ? Communication equipment ? Socks ? Falafel ? Sure, it would be a mobility kill at least ! Can see sheet steel , flying off !

The Pentagon: Our forces near #Baghdad airport were attacked by two missiles, one of which we intercepted and the second fell into an empty warehouse.

The people of Jordan march towards the borders of Palestine and hail “Hamas”.

https://t.me/gazaalannet/41336

Eugenio Argentina wrote:The Pentagon: Our forces near #Baghdad airport were attacked by two missiles, one of which we intercepted and the second fell into an empty warehouse.

This is just the beginning , everyone will push his own button once IDF enter Gaza.

the EU called upon Erdogan to choose either for the West, or Russia and Hamas.

Erdogan later called to end the madness of the west in the middle east.
And to end the genocide of Gaza.

...now they are talking on Turkish Media about striking U.S Warships?.
Over Turkish territory?.

i ran an translate script on the original video.
Basically they are discussing that the U.S narrative about the yemen missiles heading for Israel is bullshit and illogical.
And the options of destroying the U.S ships, for example with the Russian hypersonic missiles or the Turkish armed forces doing it themselves.
They close on the note that the U.S is destroying the middle east trough Syria, Iran, Lebanon and yemen.


link to original vid:
https://youtu.be/vvH_X5Owa28

Turkey and Iran have been in heavy contact on the highest level for some days now about Gaza.

Maybe it is all nothing,...but interesting to see if this goes somewhere.

...fun sidenote Crimea is Russia on their map.

Arya
@AryJeay
It is clear that up & till now, the resistance has the upper hand & israel is losing the war. Israel hasn’t fulfilled his promise to conduct the Gaza ground invasion & continues bombing innocent people, while on the northern front, israel can’t defend against Hezbollah’s attacks.

Scott Ritter is predicting that Israel may loose the war way worse than Ukraine, if it tries to annex Gaza. We have already seen how the corrupt elites of Ukraine tried to desperately provoke a nuclear war between Russia and the West amid their looming defeat. The same is likely true for Israel. These genocidal maniacs would probably let the whole world burn before they have to admit a total defeat in a conventional war. Zionists and (Ukrainian) Nazis have a very similar grade of moral degeneracy.

All they would have to do is launch enough nuclear missiles on Russia in order to provoke a Russian all-out response against the whole Western world. Unlike Ukraine they have the means to start WW3. The best time to intercept ICBMs is right after their launch, so maybe the Russian presence in Syria could turn out to be useful to stop them - just in case these Zionazis try something really stupid...

The most likely thing that will happen is that Israel will not enter, or will only do so with a quick raid, destroy some Hamas bases and then leave to negotiate.
If there is a full-fledged land invasion, there will be a very big conflict with all of its neighbors and I don't see a way for it to emerge victorious at that juncture.

It is amusing to see that while the brainwashing Western media focus their attention to the tiny blue octopus, they fail to notice that next to Greta Thunberg is a Jewish girl, with a huge board saying that she is a Jew supporting Palestinian.

Western mainstream media is sick.

Would this have done any damage to the tank or the crew?

Being dropped down nearly vertically like that and landing on the engine bay it probably penetrated the engine right through several metres of ground below it.

Hitting the top of the turret would have been more effective, if it hit a crew position it would have been a kill or if it hit stored ammo or fuel it would have done some serious damage, but hitting the engine it might have started a fire, but equally could have just burned a neat little hole through from top to bottom.

The most likely thing that will happen is that Israel will not enter, or will only do so with a quick raid, destroy some Hamas bases and then leave to negotiate.

The forces attacking Israel seem to be rather well organised and smart so I would think an Israeli armoured attack on Gaza will be anticipated and with drones and other new technology it might turn into a blood bath for those Israeli soldiers... a bit like Kievs counter offensive which was supposed to allow Kiev to go into peace negotiations from a position of strength but may instead lead to the destruction of their army.

BTW two posts have been deleted for not being in English with no English translation.

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207037984/josh-paul-resign-state-department-military-assistance-israel-gaza

A State Department official has resigned from the bureau that oversees arms transfers to foreign nations, citing his objection to continued U.S. military assistance to Israel as its retaliatory bombardment and blockade of Gaza exacerbate a humanitarian crisis there.

Josh Paul was the director of congressional and public affairs at the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs. In a two-page letter posted on LinkedIn, he said he had made a promise to himself when he joined over a decade ago that he would stay "as long as I felt the harm I might do could be outweighed by the good I could do."

In an interview with Morning Edition's Michel Martin, Paul strongly denounced Hamas' attack on Israel and affirmed Israel's right to defend itself. But he said there are "ways to do that that don't involve dislocating a million Palestinians, that don't involve the death of thousands of civilians."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/state-department-gaza_n_6531a23ae4b0da897ab75ce4?b7p&fbclid=IwAR2R8fuicSgo3g04hkvxD6RhIv0oDClDuBO-5V6rWf-PE1WkgnHx4pt0Ew4

Exclusive: ‘Mutiny Brewing’ Inside State Department Over Israel-Palestine Policy

Officials told HuffPost that Secretary of State Antony Blinken and his most senior advisers are overlooking widespread internal frustration. Some department staff said they feel as if Blinken and his team are uninterested in their own experts’ advice as they focus on supporting Israel’s expanding operation in Gaza, where the Palestinian militant group Hamas is based.

Two officials told HuffPost that diplomats are preparing what’s called a “dissent cable,” a document criticizing American policy that goes to the agency’s leaders through a protected internal channel.

The cable would come in the wake of Josh Paul, a veteran State Department official, announcing his resignation on Wednesday. After more than a decade of working on arms deals, he said, he could not morally support the U.S.’s moves to supply Israel’s war effort.

higurashihougi wrote:
Exclusive: ‘Mutiny Brewing’ Inside State Department Over Israel-Palestine Policy

Officials told HuffPost that Secretary of State Antony Blinken and his most senior advisers are overlooking widespread internal frustration. Some department staff said they feel as if Blinken and his team are uninterested in their own experts’ advice as they focus on supporting Israel’s expanding operation in Gaza, where the Palestinian militant group Hamas is based.

Two officials told HuffPost that diplomats are preparing what’s called a “dissent cable,” a document criticizing American policy that goes to the agency’s leaders through a protected internal channel.

The cable would come in the wake of Josh Paul, a veteran State Department official, announcing his resignation on Wednesday. After more than a decade of working on arms deals, he said, he could not morally support the U.S.’s moves to supply Israel’s war effort.

What a disconnect there is between the State department pros and elected officials! The former are the experts but policy is dominated by those beholden to a lobby which considers Israel paramount and doesn't care if everything else, US interests included, goes to hell.

It seems that the issue of weapons diverted from Ukraine to Hamas is not very true.
I have not yet seen any document that proves it, except for some comments at the beginning of the conflict.

I don't think anyone is claiming shipments to Ukraine were redirected directly to Hamas, but that the excess weapons that Ukraine didn't want or didn't get was put on the black market for resale and groups like Hamas and ISIS and other enemies of the US probably bought these weapons... the Taliban ended up with enormous amounts of US weapons too, they might have made some money selling them too... I rather doubt they were too picky about who bought them.... I doubt the Ukrainians were very picky either.

The Washington Post modeled the situation: what would happen in the event of a decision to launch an Israel Defense Forces ground operation in the Gaza Strip.

In general, there is nothing surprising in such approaches. Even during the war against the Islamic State and the urban fighting in Iraq's Mosul, where the militants did not have several decades to prepare the infrastructure, both the International Coalition troops and the local security forces faced the same typical problems.

The Gaza Strip has been turned into one solid fortification - adjusted for the destruction and mountains of debris on the surface, of course. And after large-scale bombing and tens of thousands of broken lives, the human reserve of Palestinian groups in the form of desperate Gazans has become much larger than it was a month ago.

If we set aside the factor of intervention in the conflict by third countries, it will take a long time for the Israel Defense Forces to clean up Gaza with their own forces. And there will be many casualties among the soldiers. This fact cannot be ignored in Lebanon and Iran (it would be strange if they did not take advantage of such an opportunity).

Even now the US is urging the nationalist government of Israel to at least postpone the operation, explaining it by the need to rescue captured foreign citizens. And so far Israel seems to have listened to this.









https://twitter.com/rybar_force/status/1715661839541879145

People get kind of, ekhm, irrational after a failed coup attempt where they where supposed to die.

Has propably to do with local culture.

he best time to intercept ICBMs is right after their launch

Israel has no ICBM´s.

With a huge board saying that she is a Jew

Can´t stand her, but Greta doesn´t hold a sign saying that she is a Jew but the woman besides her.

Arya
@AryJeay
Rocket attack on Tel Aviv

Pro-Palestine protests in Sydney, Australia: the people are with Palestine

https://t.me/gazaalannet/41439

They write that at night a truck with humanitarian aid entered Gaza through the Rafah checkpoint from Egypt; there were the most necessary medicines.