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    2023 Israel–Hamas war

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    Post  starman Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:41 am

    ahmedfire wrote:
    Reports from IDF said up to 14 Merkava 4  were lost by HAMAS alone .

    Do you have a link or pics? Btw I wish you had sisi's job.Smile

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:05 am

    What is the purpose of this patrol? Will the US be scared? It's more likely to make them laugh.

    Three years ago they laughed at Putin, he was weak and would never go to war... and when the war started they were laughing because they armed and trained Kiev for 8 years already, with new western weapons they will walk all over drunk Russian conscripts and Putin will be overthrown by Navalny and the Russian people will be free... to sell stuff to Europe for a quarter what they were selling it for before...

    The US is too stupid and arrogant to be scared... eventually they realise however.

    I think that Israelis should go to Canada

    They tried to do in Palestine what Hitler tried to do in the Soviet Union... they should go to the bottom of the ocean and I don't mean by submarine.

    We are already knee deep in nazi's sniper and neofascist liberals attack Now you want to drown us with Zionist

    Everyone is keen to offer them their own country but they never offer up their own land for this to happen... it is always someone elses land...

    The Americans support them so much... why not New York.

    You can easily considere that Turkey will let the russian tupolevs use their airspace in case they want to help arabs destroy those carriers (if their base in Syria was touched in a cross shooting).

    The US was recently shooting down Turkish drones over Syria, so they are not best friends... plus Russia could fly over the Caspian Sea and over Iran and Syria to launch missiles at targets in the Med...

    US ships with 2,500 marines are not small ships so Russia would be wary of them sailing around the place there... they might try something in Syria in a surprise attack to get rid of Assad.

    Israel was shocked by Hamas attack . The planning for this attack ? Why take hostages for demands , if you already close the avenue for negotiations by killings ?

    They took hostages because Israel would use any excuse to murder them all... Hamas and their allies and their civilians as well because they ultimately want to exterminate them anyway at the end of the day, so having Israeli citizens hostage prevents them just carpet bombing Gaza without care.


    BTW just a reminder that this is an english language forum so while you can post in any language you please any non english text should be translated to english, even if just in summary form or your post might just get deleted.

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    Post  ahmedfire Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:10 am

    starman wrote:
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    Reports from IDF said up to 14 Merkava 4  were lost by HAMAS alone .

    Do you have a link or pics? Btw I wish you had sisi's job.Smile

    I would turn the region upside down lol

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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:48 am

    The person is speaking Russian, not Ukrainian
    Of course she speaks Russian, even the hardcore Bandera-loving Nazis in "Ukraine" speak mostly Russian. Rolling Eyes

    Still, it is a lot considering both the conflict scale and duration.
    Most tanks are kept in "hiding", far away from Gaza and Lebanon.
    The numbers will likely go up massively if they start some sort of ground operation.
    Or if Hezbollah attacks.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:01 pm

    🚨 Hebrew media:
    The Israeli army is searching for a gunman inside the Margaliot settlement after he infiltrated from Lebanon and opened fire on IDF forces, and so far he has not been found and the settlers were asked to remain in shelters.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:04 pm

    Question: does Hezbollah have MANPADs or any other air defence?
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    Post  Isos Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:24 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Question: does Hezbollah have MANPADs or any other air defence?

    Plenty of manpads. Some say they got their hands on pantsir and buk from Syria but hard to say.

    I remember seeing they had some strela 10 or Osa systems.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:25 pm

    🛑 Hebrew media:
    The armed gunman that entered Margaliot colony on the border with Lebanon was able to injure an israeli soldier & escape successfully.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:36 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    Reports from IDF said up to 14 Merkava 4  were lost by HAMAS alone .

    I haven't seen this kind of report.
    Not that I am much determined to look for it Laughing
    But considering the data given by Hamas, I was taught to believe only the things I see. And even that with much of a caution Laughing Laughing
    I have seen about 10 confirmed hits of both Mk 3 and Mk 4.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:42 pm

    Ismail Haniyeh:
    The resistance has initiated its strategic strikes while maintaining control over the pace of this battle, despite the occupier's brutality, random killings, and deliberate house shelling.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:00 pm


    Regarding the tanks destroyed by Hamas in Israel, it must be taken into account that they took several Zionist bases.
    And in them there were different weapons. Including tanks and other armored vehicles.
    Obviously, what they didn't take they will have destroyed.

    Here are some videos where you can see armored material captured by Hamas;


    https://twitter.com/cheguwera/status/1712309044646449608

    https://twitter.com/NNMSPA/status/1712379614142611784

    https://twitter.com/TahirBh09402843/status/1712203754668273843

    https://twitter.com/noticiasenx/status/1710646659611267266

    https://twitter.com/AgenciaAJN/status/1710651557388169309

    With this information you can make an approximate calculation.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:02 pm

    Military in the USA showing his disagreement with fighting for Israel.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:23 pm

    🇵🇸🇮🇱 Hamas releases footage of a drone dropping a tandem cumulative grenade from an RPG-7 onto an Israeli Merkava Mark IV tank.

    https://t.me/intelslava/52470

    According to Hamas: "Yesterday, Thursday afternoon, an anti-armor projectile was fired at a Merkavah 4 tank east of Khan Yunis."

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:39 pm

    Al-Qassam Brigades: footage of the drones they used to target Zionist vehicles during the Battle of Al-Aqsa Flood.

    https://t.me/mmirlb/518

    It should be noted that the attacked vehicle is already destroyed before the bombing.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:58 pm

    🇺🇵🇸🇪🇬 The UN Secretary General, despite the huge number of protesters at the Rafah checkpoint, was able to break through the crowd, the media write

    Guterres arrived at Egypt's border with the Gaza Strip to allegedly personally supervise the passage of the first trucks through the Rafah land crossing from Egypt to Gaza, which will deliver humanitarian aid to residents of the enclave.

    https://t.me/intelslava/52471
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:37 pm

    The women of Hebron are now taking to the streets in solidarity with Gaza 🇵🇸

    https://t.me/gazaalannet/41300

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:49 pm


    Ibn Riad - ابن رياض
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    🔴 Tulkarm Brigades (Saraya Al-Quds, West Bank):

    - We dare the Zionists to reveal the truth of what happened to their troops in Tulkarm

    - Our fighters are in great condition, and the enemy saw but a little of what we prepared

    - Multiple resistance brigades aided in the battle

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:51 pm

    "We've been watching your channels....Where are our voices?"

    A woman at the Rafah crossing on the Egypt-Palestine border confronts a western journalist in protest of the pro-Israel coverage on #Gaza by the mainstream Western media.


    https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1715345564471054437

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    Post  nomadski Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:56 pm





    What is lacking so far is a response from Iran directly . And it does not have to be lethal to be effective . A symbolic act , to mirror those of Yemen or Syria or Iraq or Lebanon is needed . A drone can fly from Iran and distribute leaflets . Or a Rocket can display a Red flare high above an Israeli city . Use your imagination ! It is called systematic desensitization in psychology ! Or slowly boiling the Frog ! No more fake ultimatum , more embarrassing and counter- productive ! No warning at all ! Also regular troops can be displayed in frontlines in Lebanon .  no more disembodied voices on internet !


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:15 pm

    Statement issued by the Islamic Resistance:

    In the name of Allah

    "Permission [to fight] has been granted to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory." (Quran 22:39)


    On the afternoon of Friday, October 20, 2023, the Islamic Resistance fighters targeted the Israeli occupation enemy sites in the occupied Shebaa Farms and the hills of Kfar Shuba. These locations include Ramthah, Zibdeen, Al-Radar, Ruwaisat Al-Qarn, and Ruwaisat Al-Alam with guided missiles and appropriate weapons.


    And victory is none but from Allah, the Mighty, the Wise.

    Friday, 20,10, 2023
    4, Rabi'e Al-Thani 1445
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:16 pm

    The Military Media in The Islamic Resistance, [20/10/2023 11:13]
    #Enemy_Media

    Spokesperson for the Israeli Occupation Army:

    Several Israeli army sites along the border with Lebanon were targeted with guided missiles and gunfire from machine guns.

    #Military_Media

    The Military Media in The Islamic Resistance, [20/10/2023 11:14]
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    Zionist Media: Commencement of the evacuation process for settlers from "Qiryat Shemona."

    #Military_Media
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    Post  par far Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:47 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    ISRAEL’S LIKUD PARTY RULER: RUSSIA WILL PAY FOR SUPPORTING OUR ENEMIES

    https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1714935996473557262


    These idiots not even understand that Russia is trying to help, these assholes. This Likud moron, needs to win against the lightly armed Palestinians before he should dream about Russia. Killing unarmed civilians, women and children just won’t cut it.

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    Post  par far Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:50 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Question: does Hezbollah have MANPADs or any other air defence?

    Plenty of manpads. Some say they got their hands on pantsir and buk from Syria but hard to say.

    I remember seeing they had some strela 10 or Osa systems.


    It would be interesting if they had Pantsir or Buk, if they do have something like this, than it is from the Iranians.


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    Post  par far Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:53 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:🇵🇸🇮🇱 Hamas releases footage of a drone dropping a tandem cumulative grenade from an RPG-7 onto an Israeli Merkava Mark IV tank.

    https://t.me/intelslava/52470

    According to Hamas: "Yesterday, Thursday afternoon, an anti-armor projectile was fired at a Merkavah 4 tank east of Khan Yunis."

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    Would this have done any damage to the tank or the crew?
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:12 pm

    🛑 Hezbollah confirms:

    They attacked a gathering of Zionist soldiers in the occupied Honin barracks (Rameem), causing confirmed casualties.

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