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    2023 Israel–Hamas war #3

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    Post  lancelot Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:38 am



    In this video he talks about the situation with the Houti embargo towards shipping to Israel in the Red Sea.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:47 am

    The israeli army admits to the elimination of 2 officers in the Gaza Strip yesterday:

    🔻Master Sgt. (res.) Joseph Avner Doran, 26, of the combat mobility Unit 444 & served in the Navy's Shayetet 13

    🔻Sgt. First Class (res.) Shalev Zaltsman, 24, of the 55th Reserve Paratroopers Brigade

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:20 pm

    🟡 Hezbollah has already carried out 4 DEADLY operations since this morning:

    🔻Targeted a fortified position of IOF soldiers at Baraka Risha site, using appropriate weapons at 8:30AM. There are confirmed injuries.

    🔻Targeted a military force in the vicinity of Hanita site with appropriate weapons at 9:00AM, with confirmed casualties,

    🔻Targeted a group of 4 IOF soldiers as they entered an eastern Sa’sa position at 9:50AM, using appropriate weapons, resulting in confirmed injuries among them.

    🔻Targeted a gathering of IOF soldiers in the Adathir forest with appropriate weapons at 10:30AM, inflicting direct injuries.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:37 pm

    Quite a good update in picture form

    Damien Symon
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    Amidst the maritime chaos unfolding in the Red Sea, here is a simple graphic detailing recent incidents in Bab-el-Mandeb region, this visual encapsulates current challenges faced by one of the globe's busiest shipping routes

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    BREAKING:

    ⚡Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Jordan are helping Israel bypass the Houthi blockade

    Walla Israeli website:

    "The first batch of commercial shipments loaded with fresh foodstuffs arrived from Dubai to Israel, through the new alternative land bridge to the Red Sea, through Dubai ports, passing through Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

    The length of the alternative bridge is (two thousand kilometers) and the journey takes two days."

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:55 pm

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    According to Israeli data, the final death toll from the Oct 7 attack by Palestinian militants is 695 Israeli civilians (including 36 children), 373 Israeli security forces and 71 foreigners, for a total of 1,139.

    The data “does not distinguish between those killed by Hamas and civilians killed by Israeli forces in the fighting to retake control of southern Israel, an operation in which the army used shells and rockets on inhabited areas, according to testimonies collected by AFP and Israeli media.”

    The number of Palestinian children killed in Gaza since Oct 7 is nearly 300 times greater than the number of Israeli children killed on Oct 7.

    And we’re supposed to believe that Hamas is a terrorist entity, but Israel isn’t?

    https://france24.com/en/live-news/2

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:01 pm

    I think he has put his finger on something interesting.

    Maybe it won't be Lebanon that sets off the next full blown ME war, how about Yemen? What happens if the USN (once the carrier and its aircraft get there) and others do a full on attack on Yemen?

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    Having so soon vacated the placid environs of the Persian Gulf, the USS Eisenhower carrier strike group is apparently racing back towards the Red Sea.

    Ansarullah in Yemen has effectively blockaded both Eilat and the Suez Canal. It's understandable the US is very desirous to "do something about it".

    But what?

    And at what risk?

    The Houthis clearly should not be underestimated. They have achieved successes far beyond what were believed to be their limitations. Suppose they're sitting on a few dozen relatively capable anti-ship missiles delivered from either Hezbollah or Iran?

    And suppose they are able to launch a salvo of such missiles against a US warship (or two) in the narrow confines of the Red Sea.

    And suppose one or two penetrate US defenses and successfully strike a US warship.

    Well ... such an event could very possibly set in motion a series of very dangerous escalations aimed at Iran.

    The Pentagon is facing serious threats all around the world, and doesn't appear to have enough fingers to plug the growing number of holes in the leaky dike of the "rules-based international order".

    These are perilous times ...

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:11 pm

    Just a reminder of the Israel promised to them a few thousand years ago

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:13 pm

    Al-Quds Brigades:

    At dawn, our fighters engaged in fierce clashes with an IOF infantry force consisting of 7 soldiers, using machine guns & anti-personnel explosives, resulting in death and injuries in the Shuja'iya neighborhood axis.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:25 pm

    Al-Quds Brigades: We bombarded the military gatherings in “Juhur Al-Deek,” “East Al-Maghazi,” and the “Engineering Company” with heavy-caliber mortar shells.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:50 pm

    🛑 Al-Quds Brigades:

    Our fighters engaged in fierce clashes with IOF soldiers using machine guns, causing significant injuries. We also targeted 3 military vehicles with Tandem rockets in the advancing axis of Sheikh Radwan neighborhood.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:51 pm

    🛑 Al-Mayadeen correspondent: 2 IOF tanks were burned on Yarmouk Street in central Gaza City during the ongoing clashes between the resistance and the IOF army.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:52 pm

    Hamas just released a video showing its forces (partially) destroying a Merkava-4 tank with “Al-Yassin 105” tandem HEAT rockets southeast of the city of Deir Al-Balah in the central Gaza Strip, which set the tank on fire.

    https://t.me/FotrosResistance/3133

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    Post  Hole Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:42 pm

    And suppose they are able to launch a salvo of such missiles
    Add to that hundreds of suicide drones of all shapes and sizes. Cool
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:53 pm

    In support of our steadfast Palestinian people in Gaza and in reinforcement of their courageous and honorable resistance, at 3:30 PM on Sunday, December 17, 2023, fighters of the Islamic Resistance targeted the gathering of enemy vehicles and soldiers in the vicinity of the occupied Lebanese village of Hunin with appropriate weapons, resulting in direct injuries.

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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:01 pm

    The body counting to justify essentially genocide is grotesque. Recall the endless drivel about 2,500 Albanians killed by evil Serbs in 1999.
    That number included mostly dead Serbs killed by the KLA and dead KLA. But the insinuation in the NATzO fake stream media was that
    it was Albanian (called "Kosovars" in an attempt to paint them as some indigenous population) civilian victims. The fact that more Serb
    civilians died after NATzO assisted the KLA in Kosovo and directly by NATzO itself all over Serbia is not a consideration. Just like the fact
    that 16,000 Palestinians have been slaughtered in the name of 1,139 Israelis many of whom died at the hands of their own government.
    This is the typical "we'll kill 100 of yours for ever one of ours" savagery of primitive barbaric societies. The BS frenzy of righteousness and
    "revenge" comes from people who victimized Palestinians from day one. If you abuse people, eventually they strike back and you cannot
    claim any moral superiority and victimhood.

    You would think that Israeli elites would have realistic long term plans. Instead they must be assuming that Uncle Scumbag will be suppressing
    their neighbours in perpetuity. An utterly moronic assumption.

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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:13 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Just a reminder of the Israel promised to them a few thousand years ago

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    Demented nonsense. There is no factual reality to the Old Testament. Supposedly the Hebrews were slaves of the pharaohs. But there is no
    archeological evidence for any such slaves building the pyramids. In fact, there is not even any evidence that the prime pyramids were even built
    by dynastic Egyptians. They clearly attempted to imitate the Giza pyramids but built mud brick structures that disappeared and other attempts that
    collapsed. But supposedly, the best pyramids are the oldest ones. A totally inverted technological timeline.

    The PBS had a documentary on the dynastic Egyptian residences in the vicinity of the pyramids that were supposedly for the workers building them.
    This is a flagrant attribution and not a fact, but in any case it at least establishes that these were not slave camps. Even the broken archeological
    mainstream cannot find evidence of any slaves building the pyramids. Slaves would have been disposable and buried in mass graves and not like
    regular citizens of Egypt. Slaves would not receive normal medical treatment either and it is clear from the skeletons that such treatment was given.
    In this regard archeology is like forensics and offers up some objective truth instead of fantasy.

    Any border based on the Old Testament is utter nonsense. Every tribe can concoct its own holy book to give itself rights to anything and everything.
    The only claim Israelis have is to the lands they had at the time when the Romans destroyed Israel. These lands do not span anywhere the outlines of
    this retarded map.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:30 am

    This is the typical "we'll kill 100 of yours for ever one of ours" savagery of primitive barbaric societies.

    Funny how white european cultures claim all men are equal but we will kill 10 or 100 of our enemies for every one of our own that is lost... Nazis and Israelis and Americans alike... they justify war by stating the enemy is losing way more people than we are... ignore the fact that the enemy normally has more to lose and more reason to lose it over you being on their territory.

    Regarding slaves, slaves were not disposable and had significant value so would never be worked to death unless there was not enough food for everyone.

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:56 am

    That was true up to a point. Slaves are worked to death even if they are not outright abused. The point of having slaves is to extract
    maximal work value out of them. They are not regular workers and that is why slavery is a bad thing. This would manifest itself in the
    bone evidence and the layout of the work "camps". The accepted narrative based on the genuine valuable archeology is that the
    pyramids were a national construction project built by regular Egyptians over decades and not hordes of imported slaves.

    Where were all the African slaves if Egypt was into running slavery for its national projects?

    That portion of Egypt on the east side of the Nile is a ludicrous claim based on a ludicrous myth. To be clear such BS is not unique to Jews. We
    have many Chinese believing that Mongolia is their land because at one stage China was ruled by them, a painful fact that is suppressed by
    the nationally proud as these rulers supposedly being Chinese who ruled Mongolia. Ukraine is particularly bad at making up a fake history and
    claiming absurd historical events and significance. Ukraine is failing to impose its fantasy on the population that fell within its criminal borders.
    But Israel is getting away with deleting Palestinians thanks to its NATzO patrons.
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    Post  jhelb Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:21 am

    GarryB wrote:Funny how white european cultures claim all men are equal but we will kill 10 or 100 of our enemies for every one of our own that is lost.
    Funny how dark skinned people still continue to flock to Europe and Russia and US and have made Whites a minority in several cities.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:04 am

    Latest Updates On Yemen, 17 December 2023

    According to statements made by Lieutenant General Mohammed Al-Qadiri, the commander of the Yemeni Coastal Defense Forces, the Ansar Allah movement carried out a missile operation against the MSC Alanya ship in the west of Hanish Island. He stated that our objective is to prevent the movement of ships towards Israel, not to sink them. However, we also have suitable weapons to sink them if needed. If the Israelis do not respond to demands for the cessation of aggression against the Gaza Strip, a third phase will come, which will be difficult for them.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:07 am

    WATCH: Interesting speech by the brother of Alon Lulu Shamriz, one of the 3 israeli prisoners who was killed by friendly fire:

    “My brother Shamriz & companions, who were killed by the treacherous [israeli] airstrike, deserve special attention: You came from the tunnel to the open air, witnessed freedom, and stood against a ridiculous chain of command, an irresponsible regime [israel]. You overcame everything, needing no one. You did everything right. Alon, I promise that your death was not in vain; we will rise and shake the country [lol]. We ensure that your name becomes a symbol of courage, a symbol of revolution. We won't forget those who betrayed us on the 7th day; we won't forgive. We will pursue the officials. They will regret it”

    It is the duty of every insurgent not to forget and forgive those who betrayed, pursue the officials responsible for our tragedy, and make them regret.

    https://t.me/FotrosResistance/3136

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:08 am

    🚨🇸🇾 Syrian Military source to SANA:

    Israeli warplanes carried out airstrikes from the occupied Golan, targeting some points in Damascus. Our air defenses shot down a number of the incoming missiles.

    The aggression led to 2 soldiers being injured and some material losses.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:08 am

    BIG SUMMARY of all resistance operations today, December 17, against US-israeli forces


    🇵🇸 Al-Qassam Brigades:

    🔻Targeted an Israeli military gathering east of Khan Yunis with heavy-caliber mortars.

    🔻Destroyed 2 APCs north of Khan Yunis, causing an IOF helicopter to land to evacuate its casualties.

    🔻Successfully detonated an anti-personnel "Raadiya" explosive device targeting a 10-member israeli infantry unit north of Khan Yunis.



    🇵🇸 Al-Quds Brigades:

    🔻Shelled military formations in the Beit Lahia axis with 60mm mortars.

    🔻Shelled IOF soldiers' gathering around the mills south of Deir al-Balah with heavy-caliber mortars.

    🔻Shelled military formations east of Zaytoun neighborhood with heavy-caliber mortars.

    🔻Targeted military crowds in Juhar al-Dik, East of Maghazi, and around the "Engineering Company" with heavy-caliber mortars.

    🔻(Partially) destroyed 4 military vehicles with "Tandem" rockes and "Fedayeen" explosive devices in Jabaliya, Tel al-Za'atar, and al-Tawam axes.

    🔻(Partially) destroyed 3 military vehicles with "Tandem" rockets in the advancement axis of Sheikh Radwan.

    🔻Shelled military formations around the Al-Zalal Mosque in the axis east of Khan Yunis with a barrage of heavy-caliber mortars.

    🔻In a joint operation with Al-Qassam Brigades, detonated a powerful explosive device on an IOF Merkava tank, resulting in casualties, in the al-Maghraqa area in central Gaza.



    🇵🇸 Mujahideen Brigades:

    🔻Clashed with IOF forces invading the Shuja’iya & Zaytoun axes using various weapons, causing confirmed casualties.

    🔻Targeted the Al-Farrahin support site east of Khan Younis with several medium-caliber mortars.



    🇵🇸 Martyr Omar Al-Qassem forces:

    🔻Shelled a gathering of military vehicles east of Rafah with heavy mortars.



    🇵🇸 Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades:

    🔻Clashed with IOF forces in the axis of Yarmouk Street in Gaza City, with heavy barrages of bullets & RPGs.

    🔻Clashed with IOF forces in the axis of Sheikh Radwan neighborhood using machine guns, confirming deaths & injuries.

    🔻In a joint-operation with other resistance factions, they engaged in fierce clashes with IOF forces in the axis west of Khan Yunis with heavy barrages of bullets and RPGs.



    — 🟡 Hezbollah (10 operations):

    🔻Targeted a fortified position of IOF soldiers at Birkat Risha site, using appropriate weapons. There are confirmed injuries.

    🔻Targeted a military force in the vicinity of Hanita site with appropriate weapons, with confirmed casualties,

    🔻Targeted a group of 4 IOF soldiers as they entered an eastern Sa’sa position, using appropriate weapons, resulting in confirmed injuries among them.

    🔻Targeted a gathering of IOF soldiers in the Adathir forest with appropriate weapons, inflicting direct injuries.

    🔻Targeted the Jal al-Alam IOF site with appropriate weapons.

    🔻Targeted an israeli army crane, with soldiers installing technical & espionage equipment in Duviv with appropriate weapons, destroying the equipments.

    🔻Targeted the al-Rahib IOF site with appropriate weapons.

    🔻Targeted a newly established command HQ near Even Manahim with appropriate weapons.

    🔻Targeted the Avivim barracks with appropriate weapons.

    🔻Targeted a gathering of army vehicles & soldiers in the vicinity of Hunin with appropriate weapons.

    This list did not include rockets fired from Gaza towards settlements.

    @FotrosResistance

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:09 am

    The israeli army admits to the elimination of 4 officers in the Gaza Strip:

    🔻Sergeant first class Urija Bayer, 20, from the Maglan unit

    🔻Sergeant first class Liav Aloush, 21, from the Duvdevan unit

    🔻Master Sergeant Etan Naeh, 26, from the Duvdevan unit

    🔻Master Sergeant Tal Filiba, 23, from the Yahalom unit

    Please note that all 4 are from elite special commando forces. These are supposedly highly trained commandos.

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