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    Post  franco Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:17 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Due to intrinsic military complexities, the Ukrainians are advancing backwards whereas the Russians are retreating forward.


    The Ukrainian military was truly created in the image of Western Woke Values... affraid Twisted Evil

    attack russia

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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:21 pm

    No artillery shell can compare to a bomb unless an apples to oranges comparison using a nuke shell is made. A 152 mm shell is about
    40 kg total weight and not the explosive amount. The Fab-500 is a nominal 500 kg bomb with about 60% of that being the explosive.
    Shells are not effective against bunkers. Just a couple of meters of well packed soil over a bunker can dissipate most of the explosive
    energy.

    Now that the Ukr regime has lost its anti-aircraft system cover, it is losing its bunker bastions to bomb attacks. But my impression is that
    Russia was not in a big hurry to take out these bastions so it is not just air supremacy involved.


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:59 pm

    If I were Russia, I would use nerve gas to attack underground. Especially in resistance in factories and underground places. The gas is good for cockroaches and pests, so it will work for the Ukrainians and NATO agents

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:13 pm

    Medvedev: According to the Ministry of Defense, more than 53 thousand people have been recruited for military service in the country as a whole since January 1 in the interests of the united group of troops

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:13 pm

    franco wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Due to intrinsic military complexities, the Ukrainians are advancing backwards whereas the Russians are retreating forward.


    The Ukrainian military was truly created in the image of Western Woke Values... affraid Twisted Evil

    attack  russia
    It's actually true. Progressive culture has generated less strong and resistant people in the West than their ancestors were. That carries over to the military level. What technology has done is compensate for those problems a little, but they are still there.
    There is a lower willingness to die and sacrifice. It is no coincidence that eastern Ukrainians (of Russian ethnicity and influence) are the regime's main line of defense. Westerners are lost when the others are gone.

    It should be studied more, but I'm sure.
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    Post  Belisarius Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:25 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    Fighterbomber also confirmed an A-50 last month and a Su-34 in December but so far no evidence proving either case, I don't know why people still bother to look at what these idiots have to say about downed aircraft.

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    Post  franco Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:33 pm

    Maxim Kuzminov, who hijacked a Russian military helicopter for Ukraine and doomed two of his colleagues to death, was found dead in Spain.

    Spanish newspaper ABC reported that the body of a 33-year-old man was found on the ramp of a garage in the town of La Villajoyosa in Alicante.

    It is reported that bullet wounds were found on the body of the deceased.

    https://twitter.com/Trollstoy88/status/1759595215537479954/photo/1

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    Post  lancelot Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:37 pm

    IFF and radio communications need to be improved. The factory which produces the IFF systems has had issues multiple times and has been at the edge of bankruptcy. There are modern radios available as well, for example the Su-57 radio, but their usage rate isn't high enough to equip everyone who needs them.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:53 pm

    Did I read it correctly? Pro Russian partisans in Lvov?

    ⚡🔥On the night from Saturday to Sunday, Lvov underground activists slaughtered the guards at the Lvov factory at Antonovycha/116, after which they doused the facility with gasoline and burned it to the ground. The fire covered an area of more than 400 square meters.

    The news in the Ukrainian segment of the Internet was modest, one line, neither the causes of the fire, nor the products of the plant were mentioned.

    ❗ The burned factory was actually producing 5,000 UAVs per month for the AFU.
    Their products included the Furia UAV, Leleka 100, RAM II UAV and other types of UAVs.
    They won't get to the front anymore.

    Keep up the good work.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:59 pm

    franco wrote:Maxim Kuzminov, who hijacked a Russian military helicopter for Ukraine and doomed two of his colleagues to death, was found dead in Spain.

    Spanish newspaper ABC reported that the body of a 33-year-old man was found on the ramp of a garage in the town of La Villajoyosa in Alicante.

    It is reported that bullet wounds were found on the body of the deceased.

    https://twitter.com/Trollstoy88/status/1759595215537479954/photo/1

    The Russian secret services are making themselves respected.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:08 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Did I read it correctly? Pro Russian partisans in Lvov?

    ⚡🔥On the night from Saturday to Sunday, Lvov underground activists slaughtered the guards at the Lvov factory at Antonovycha/116, after which they doused the facility with gasoline and burned it to the ground. The fire covered an area of more than 400 square meters.

    The news in the Ukrainian segment of the Internet was modest, one line, neither the causes of the fire, nor the products of the plant were mentioned.

    ❗ The burned factory was actually producing 5,000 UAVs per month for the AFU.
    Their products included the Furia UAV, Leleka 100, RAM II UAV and other types of UAVs.
    They won't get to the front anymore.

    Keep up the good work.

    Source



    While I do not know this for certain, perhaps it was the work of the local ethnic Poles?

    There are some of them left still living in Lviv/Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg. Smile

    The city had an ethnic Polish majority until the mid-1940's.



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    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-GL42.html



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    Post  RTN Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:09 pm

    Russian SU 34 and SU 35 shot down. Even UMPK guidance kit is not helping. Russian air dropped munition lacks JDAM style guidance kit, therefore relatively easy for Ukraine to target Russian jets especially with PAC-2 around.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:26 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:



    While I do not know this for certain, perhaps it was the work of the local ethnic Poles?

    There are some of them left still living in Lviv/Lvov/Lwow/Lemberg.  Smile

    The city had an ethnic Polish majority until the mid-1940's.



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    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-GL42.html




    Yes but poles hate Russia as well don't they?
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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:21 pm

    Denmark have next to nothing to send anyway. Their newly ordered Caesar were directly sent to Ukraine. All they had left was 15x Caradom 10 (self propelled 120mm mortars) and 20xIsraeli 120mm mortars. Their M109 were scrapped. So when she's saying she's sending "all" their artillery what she means is 15x 120mm self propelled mortars and 20x 120mm mortars. Wowwhat a game changer lol! am sure the Ukrainians will be impressed lol! if this is the level of support and supplies the west have left to offer them Ukraine can't sustain this war for very long.

    "Denmark is sending its "entire artillery" to Ukraine, the Danish prime minister has said. Speaking at the Munich Security Conference, Mette Frederiksen appealed to other European nations to do more. "They are asking us for ammunition now. Artillery now. From the Danish side, we decided to donate our entire artillery,' she said. It's as Russia said it has taken full control of the eastern Ukrainian city of Avdiivka, its biggest gain since capturing Bakhmut last May, after a retreat by Ukrainian troops."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2024/feb/19/denmark-sending-its-entire-artillery-to-ukraine-video

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    Post  thegopnik Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:04 pm

    RTN wrote:Russian SU 34 and SU 35 shot down. Even UMPK guidance kit is not helping. Russian air dropped munition lacks JDAM style guidance kit, therefore relatively easy for Ukraine to target Russian jets especially with PAC-2 around.


    you forgot to add that it shot down 10 Su-57s.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:23 pm

    [quote="ArgentinaGuard"]
    franco wrote:Maxim Kuzminov, who hijacked a Russian military helicopter for Ukraine and doomed two of his colleagues to death, was found dead in Spain.

    Spanish newspaper ABC reported that the body of a 33-year-old man was found on the ramp of a garage in the town of La Villajoyosa in Alicante.

    It is reported that bullet wounds were found on the body of the deceased.

    The Russian secret services are making themselves respected.





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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:25 pm

    Not quite at Kamala levels yet Laughing

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    Post  Firebird Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:33 pm

    The American system of imperialism works around the idea of a bogeyman, something to be perpetually feared.
    So to them, it makes far more sense to have a powerful bogeyman.

    So basically that skanky piece of shit crooked Nancy actually let slip her plans.
    Make Europe weak, so America can portray itself as a "knight in shining armour" - "rescuing" Europe with its LNG gas, "wunderweapons", etc etc

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:45 pm

    Unless there is a video or photo evidence of the downed jet and markings to indicate, I won't believe most of the claims. As said, A-50 and other claimed that never happened.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:00 pm

    RTN wrote:Russian SU 34 and SU 35 shot down. Even UMPK guidance kit is not helping. Russian air dropped munition lacks JDAM style guidance kit, therefore relatively easy for Ukraine to target Russian jets especially with PAC-2 around.
    .....

    You are flailing, dude...

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:06 pm

    franco wrote:Maxim Kuzminov, who hijacked a Russian military helicopter for Ukraine and doomed two of his colleagues to death, was found dead in Spain.
    .....

    Spain?

    Was he even trying to escape at all?  pwnd

    That place is loaded with Serbian drug runners, they probably dropped the dime on him for cash the moment they figured out he knew something about flying

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    Post  Belisarius Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:11 pm

    RTN wrote:Russian SU 34 and SU 35 shot down. Even UMPK guidance kit is not helping. Russian air dropped munition lacks JDAM style guidance kit, therefore relatively easy for Ukraine to target Russian jets especially with PAC-2 around.


    They talk about Su-35 and put a photo of a Su-30? Very Happy
    Wake me up when they provide evidence.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:13 pm

    RTN wrote:Russian SU 34 and SU 35 shot down. Even UMPK guidance kit is not helping. Russian air dropped munition lacks JDAM style guidance kit, therefore relatively easy for Ukraine to target Russian jets especially with PAC-2 around.


    Lol only su35 and it was friendly fire

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    The plane was downed over Rostov by millerovo and blagodatnoye by friendly fire

    So no PAC-2 was definitely not involved

    SAM batteries are operating on a launch on warning mode, due to low flight threat from Storm Shadow

    As SHORADS radar picks it up during interception, there's no time to corroborate the threat with the command post, and time to intercept is literally in terminal phase

    So the battery has permission to fire if it picks up the threat

    The issue is that IFF is very poor, and if the battery has no knowledge that a su35 will be flying over,  it will just assume it is some kind of cruise missile or drone and shoot at it, regardless of what it is as there is no time for verification - if the battery doesn't launch, then the missile could hit a city or infrastructure

    Unfortunately this problem has plagued PVO-VKS for a while and even with the PVO under VKS command they still can't coordinate flights or issue NOTAMs even for own defense system

    They just need to improve IFF and this whole thing would be resolved

    As a friendly marker will appear on radar and there will be no doubt from the battery as to what is flying over

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:22 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Unless there is a video or photo evidence of the downed jet and markings to indicate, I won't believe most of the claims.  As said, A-50 and other claimed that never happened.

    There is a video of Su35

    https://t.me/kalibrated/8526

    Unfortunately it was friendly fire

    I have already posted SAR pics with pilot gear

    The incident happened over Rostov

    So it was definitely blue on blue and has nothing to do with Ukro air defense

    FABS are still raining down on Rabotino and Kupyansk just fine and seeing as how Zelensky just visited both

    They will join the list of Bakhmut and Avdeyevka

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:23 pm

    The Follow The Money series

    Anyone care to dispute or provide more detail on exactly why ‘to the last Ukrainian (with landowning rights perhaps?) needs to be minced?

    “ Who owns the lands of Ukraine for 2024 - suddenly someone forgot.

    In 2021, the law on the sale of land came into force in Ukraine. As the Australian National Review neatly reported, "companies from the United States have used the new legislation to make massive investments in the country."

    Now Cargill, Monsanto and Dupont (investors - Vanguard, Blackrock and Blackstone) own 40% of Ukraine's arable land. For permission to sell land, Ukraine received a $17 billion loan from the IMF, and offices of all three corporations were opened in Kiev.

    GMA-Monsanto Corporation directly and through a number of intermediary companies already in 2022 owned 78% of the land fund of Sumy region, 56% of Chernihiv, 59% of Kherson and 47% of Mykolaiv region, She also has 34% of the land in the Kiev and Dnipropetrovsk regions pledged.

    Also in 2013, the South China Morning Post reported that China (represented by Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps) had acquired 3 million hectares of Ukrainian land — land the size of Belgium "leased for 99 years with the right of redemption."

    "28% of Ukraine's arable land is owned by a mixture of Ukrainian oligarchs, European and North American corporations, as well as the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia."
    The scientists also reported that the owners of Ukrainian (on paper) agricultural holdings "have long been American NCH Capital, French AgroGeneration, German ADM Germany, KWS, Bayer and BASF, Saudi PIF and SALIC."

    In the end, American researchers come to an amazing conclusion - the Russian SMO "takes place on chernozems sold to foreigners for a long time" “

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