Russian special military operation in Ukraine #53

the enemy air defense system shot down the plane.

If the plane comes back in one piece and lands under his own power... it hasn´t been shot down. 

You are applying to the US the same measures as you would talk about Russkie.
They don't think alike, that's the issue.
They will just jump out, and pretend that nothing happened. And it is all Europe's fault.
Have you noticed how the narrative is being carried? It has been already stated that all bad is because those lazy German bastards won't pay 2% of the GDP for "defense".
Soon you will have a US based shitstream yapping that 24/7, and after that some games for mob will be started, to let them change the focus.
When have you heard anything about Afghanistan?

Russian FAB glide bombs are literally a game changer.            

What goals does the Russian army have left in Donbass?

In fact, there are still many cities in this region that need to be reclaimed in Russia. But the word “remained” was not used without reason. Because the return of small towns - up to 30 thousand - can be avoided with not too great losses. But it is difficult to imagine in a modern war the rapid capture of large cities: Konstantinovka, Druzhkovka. Kramatorsk and Slavyansk - writes Oleg Izmailov .

Kramatorsk is actually two cities in different planes (Old Town below, and Sotsgorod above). The huge areas of numerous factories, and especially NKMZ and KZTS, make Kramatorsk a target for an assault much more difficult than Mariupol.

Konstantinovka is a city on two steep spurs of the deepest ravine. True, most likely you will have to take it from Chasovy Yar and Artyomovsk, where the terrain is not so steep, thank God. But you will have to take it with two parallel blows. Because of the beam.

Druzhkovka is the only one of these four cities that is not complicated. But you can't get around it. It is between Kramatorsk and Konstantinovka.

Slavyansk. It is scattered and has an unpleasant street system and is surrounded by lakes and swamps on one side, and the elongated ridge of Mount Karachun, on which the Ukrainian Armed Forces stood in 1414, on the other. I’m sure it still stands today, and, of course, it has been strengthened over the years.

So our army’s first targets are small towns - Chasov Yar, Krasnogorovka, Ugledar, Krasny Liman, Kurakhovo, Selidovo, Belozersk and Aleksandrovka

And there is also Velikaya Novoselka, Aleksandrovka, Dimitrov and Krasnoarmeysk. In the latter there is a large station and railway. enterprises. But from there there is a straight and level road to Dnepropetrovsk.

lazy German bastards won't pay 2% of the GDP for "defense".

Well, a big chunk of the american "defence" spending is financed with money from Germany.
Soon this financial river will run dry. But western politicians are to shortsighted to get that.


It seems Biden secretly visited Russia. 

These news gave me a good laugh. You got to love these farmers.

Hole wrote:

lazy German bastards won't pay 2% of the GDP for "defense".

Well, a big chunk of the american "defence" spending is financed with money from Germany.
Soon this financial river will run dry. But western politicians are to shortsighted to get that.

Yes, exactly. There are lots of hidden costs for Germany in order to satisfy the needs of the Anglozionist empire.

Arkanghelsk wrote:What goals does the Russian army have left in Donbass?

In fact, there are still many cities in this region that need to be reclaimed in Russia. But the word “remained” was not used without reason. Because the return of small towns - up to 30 thousand - can be avoided with not too great losses. But it is difficult to imagine in a modern war the rapid capture of large cities: Konstantinovka, Druzhkovka. Kramatorsk and Slavyansk - writes Oleg Izmailov .

Kramatorsk is actually two cities in different planes (Old Town below, and Sotsgorod above). The huge areas of numerous factories, and especially NKMZ and KZTS, make Kramatorsk a target for an assault much more difficult than Mariupol.

Konstantinovka is a city on two steep spurs of the deepest ravine. True, most likely you will have to take it from Chasovy Yar and Artyomovsk, where the terrain is not so steep, thank God. But you will have to take it with two parallel blows. Because of the beam.

Druzhkovka is the only one of these four cities that is not complicated. But you can't get around it. It is between Kramatorsk and Konstantinovka.

Slavyansk. It is scattered and has an unpleasant street system and is surrounded by lakes and swamps on one side, and the elongated ridge of Mount Karachun, on which the Ukrainian Armed Forces stood in 1414, on the other. I’m sure it still stands today, and, of course, it has been strengthened over the years.

So our army’s first targets are small towns - Chasov Yar, Krasnogorovka, Ugledar, Krasny Liman, Kurakhovo, Selidovo, Belozersk and Aleksandrovka

And there is also Velikaya Novoselka, Aleksandrovka, Dimitrov and Krasnoarmeysk. In the latter there is a large station and railway. enterprises. But from there there is a straight and level road to Dnepropetrovsk.

So do you think it would be easier to go from Dnepropetrovsk to mykolaiv and to Odessa over going through kherson to mykolaiv and to Odessa? only asking because i barely see action in the south.

Sprut-B wrote:Russian FAB glide bombs are literally a game changer.            

I wonder how many got taken out by the flying door.

I am glad to hear that the CNC Putin has directed the militray to maintain the momentum. I think they have the formula to take out any AFU hard points now. Just a matter if the have a large enough stockpile of FABs to obliterate any strong points which will be fewer and fewer as the progress. When they AFU withdraws they will hopefully move up the drone regiments with artillery to hinder fortifcation activities. I hope thing will speed up now when the west is paralyzed and in chaos.

Sprut-B wrote:Russian FAB glide bombs are literally a game changer.            

https://x.com/Sprinter99800/status/1760347918832169146?s=20

Worse. The UMPK glide bombs are platform agnostic so anything that can fly and carry a hefty payload can pressed into service as a precision bomber - and the Russians have hundreds of such obsolete/obsolescent aircraft in storage they can just tap into.

Imagine a couple months from now every front will have a persistent air cover with UMPK glide bombs just a call away like in Avdiivka. There will be no refuge for the enemy. Anything that can even remotely withstand an artillery barrage will get promoted to a destruction via UMPK.

There is no way anyone can fight under these conditions. The enemy will just die.

Donald Trump is the first USA president to say that the Russian war machine was what defeated Napoleon and Hitler.
Donald J. Trump is a genius.
Vote for this man.

lyle6 wrote:

Sprut-B wrote:Russian FAB glide bombs are literally a game changer.            

Worse. The UMPK glide bombs are platform agnostic so anything that can fly and carry a hefty payload can pressed into service as a precision bomber - and the Russians have hundreds of such obsolete/obsolescent aircraft in storage they can just tap into.

Imagine a couple months from now every front will have a persistent air cover with UMPK glide bombs just a call away like in Avdiivka. There will be no refuge for the enemy. Anything that can even remotely withstand an artillery barrage will get promoted to a destruction via UMPK.

There is no way anyone can fight under these conditions. The enemy will just die.

The were delivering 200T a day during the final days at ardeevka. As terrifying as that is, if you think about it, that is still a very small fraction of their capability. Each SU-34 can carry 10T.

mnztr wrote:
The were delivering 200T a day during the final days at ardeevka. As terrifying as that is, if you think about it, that is still a very small fraction of their capability. Each SU-34 can carry 10T.

The vast majority of Russia's manufacturing capability is going towards building up stocks for a showdown against all of NATO. They're not leaving anything to chance. So when they turn up the heat like in Avdiivka that's when you truly get a glimpse of the extent of their capabilities.

lyle6 wrote:

mnztr wrote:
The were delivering 200T a day during the final days at ardeevka. As terrifying as that is, if you think about it, that is still a very small fraction of their capability. Each SU-34 can carry 10T.

The vast majority of Russia's manufacturing capability is going towards building up stocks for a showdown against all of NATO. They're not leaving anything to chance. So when they turn up the heat like in Avdiivka that's when you truly get a glimpse of the extent of their capabilities.

2024 spending is omly 140b which is up about 70% in roubles . It is not remotley a full war budget. If you think about it. Many capabilities have become much cheaper. For example, why use a kornet when you can kill a tank with a drone for less at a greater distance? Glide kits also mean much fewer bombs and drone correction means you need only 2-3 rounds for a fire mission.

Hole wrote:
It seems Biden secretly visited Russia. 

He is desperately looking for shells

SolidarityWithRussia wrote:These news gave me a good laugh. You got to love these farmers.

This poor guy clearly didn't think a lot before doing that.
He did nothing that would violate Polish law, but it is not needed to keep him for 2-3 years in jail.
We have freedoms and democracy, just look around

mnztr wrote:
The were delivering 200T a day during the final days at ardeevka. As terrifying as that is, if you think about it, that is still a very small fraction of their capability. Each SU-34 can carry 10T.

It does not work this way.
At the moment, Su-34 can carry two FAB1500 with correction modules. It is to be increased to 3 "soon".
But lately a Su-24M with them flied by my screen, so I guess the number of carriers is much bigger than Su-34 fleet.

Assad is so bad, that they were forced to open a whole Isiswood to provide propaganda materials

The best story I recall, was when the Egyptian police arrested them when they were staging a commercial on the rubble on the outskirts of Cairo
Locals called the police, being disturbed by people covered with blood wandering around the neighborhood ... It turned out to be a movie plan for Isiswood, that would become "Assad's regime crime against civilians" soon

This made me laugh so damn hard. A grown man filming himself cry, piss, shit and cum on camera over his nazi butt buddies getting massacred has got to make it on a highlight reel when we win.

Guilty by association tactics? Well alright we can use this logic.

Nothing to do with association... the US and EU and HATO are directly funding and arming and equipping Kiev and when Kiev uses such things to attack purely civilian targets... ie war crimes... acts of real terrorism, then you are guilty too.

Don't claim it is nothing to do with you, those are your weapons and your ammo and your C4ISTAR resources are being used to find and engage targets that are not protected and therefore are more likely for your weapons to get through.

In fact most of teh air defence and artillery systems in use by Kiev right now are probably being controlled by mercs who were wearing HATO uniforms until recently.

Before the war started Russia was supporting Assad, who has done not so nice things.

Again referring to before the civil war. So by that logic, are the Russians supporting crimes against humanity?

Ironic because the sides you are supporting in that conflict include Al Quada and ISIS and Kurdish separatists... two of which you claim are already terrorist organisations, yet you support and supply them too.

When did Syria get all the women of a village they just captured and put them in an iron cage and doused them in petrol and then told them if you want to live you marry one of our fighters and have lots of babies with them. If you don't we set you on fire and you burn to death right now. Or that little 14 years old kid they captured and cut his head off in front of the camera... yeah, you guys are really selective about what sort of heroes you support.

Claims of chem and bio weapons war crimes by Assad are all made up and normally turn out to be western sourced weapons used by western allies in the conflict... but the investigations normally stop before they find out who created that false flag incident... funny that...

My point is simple to your silly logic. Yes we are arming Ukraine, but never had they got any order from us to attack civilians population centers.

I feed and house my dog and without me he would not survive, but anything he does is not my fault because I didn't tell him to kill and eat children...

You are arming and supporting the Ukraine, yet you are unable to tell them that you will stop supporting them if they act like the terrorist state of the sort you claim to hate and try to prosecute in your ridiculous courts pretending to be international courts.

I gave the kid a rifle and ammo and showed him how to shoot but it is not my fault he killed those people... well what were you expecting?

But it is all OK... every Russian knows you want them all dead and don't care about the rules of war you create and pretend to enforce when it is useful.

The longer this goes on the less Ukrainians there will be to cause problems in the future, and Ukraine itself might not exist either.

They have done that on their own accord, now did we condemn them for it?.

No because we have a geopolitical goal for Ukraine and that takes precedent.

They committed war crimes and you ignore them because it doesn't suit your interests because dead Russians is the same as dead Ukrainians as far as you are concerned and the more dead the better. Israel can also kill as many civilians as they please... in fact their final solution is to eliminate the Palestinians as a people so the problem goes away... more war crimes but they suit your purposes so you ignore or even defend.

That is why most people who pay attention no longer care about US speeches about human rights and war crimes, because it has become meaningless.

Just like the Russians have tolerated all the shit the Chinese have done, pre civil war syria etc because their geopolitical goals out weigh going "stop doing this or we won't help you"

What have the Chinese done?

Their list cannot approach the list of the US or members of HATO... currently keeping nazism shining brightly in Europe with billions of dollars in funding and material and blind political support.

Also no where did I defend what Ukraine did, I merely said "the didn't get orders from the white house to strike pure civilian targets"

Oh come one... the Whitehouse controls Kiev. The spin doctors there have repeatedly been saying every Russian killed makes Russia weaker... they never mention Russian soldiers... just Russians. Kiev never gets publicly told by the moral and ethical west that civilian targets should be respected and protected because they have been murdering their own citizens since 2014 and before by claiming they are Russians.

The US would designate any target a military target... nunneries and hospitals and churches and schools and orphanages... all military targets when the Tomahawks arrive... the US is the last to scold countries for war crimes because the US has done it all.

Your putting words in my mouth, and yes any infrastructure in Russia used in support of the war effort is 100000000000 percent a legitimate military target.

Putting words in your mouth... the US and Europe and all of HATO and the G7 are therefore legitimate military targets because they provide recon and support and military and economic support to Kiev...

Clearly Russia needs to expand this conflict to end western support...

Doesn't matter if civilians are working there or not, it's used to support your enemy in the war then it's fair game.

Glad you agree.

That leaves option 3) continue to drip feed Ukraine out of US arsenals and prolong the inevitable

Or more accurately make sure the defeat happens on the next US Presidents watch...

This compounds the limitations of American power and ability to fight multiple wars, while we don't even talk yet about a Taiwan war, which Americans need to horde weapons for as well

They are used to having to over react because they are so thinly spread if they were taken on in all the places they are then they would actually struggle to deal with that.

Well, a big chunk of the american "defence" spending is financed with money from Germany.
Soon this financial river will run dry. But western politicians are to shortsighted to get that.

Germany has given up the basis for its whole economy for this conflict for the US so the US can sell freedom gas to Germany and Europe, they are paying rather more than 2% and will keep paying for quite some time to come if not forever...

This made me laugh so damn hard. A grown man filming himself cry, piss, shit and cum on camera over his nazi butt buddies getting massacred has got to make it on a highlight reel when we win.

Hahaha... Putin and Russia are the problem?

Nah mate (on the video)... Russia and Putin are the solution to the war crimes and criminality that started in the Ukraine in 2014 but whose roots go back much further than that... like Ukranian nazis killing Poles and Russians which your current commander in chief seems to support and encourage.

His getting involved has prolonged the war and created more death... this war ends when the Ukraine military collapses... the longer that takes the less nazis left to deal with but of course the top ones always escape...

lyle6 wrote:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1760567384744615993

This made me laugh so damn hard. A grown man filming himself cry, piss, shit and cum on camera over his nazi butt buddies getting massacred has got to make it on a highlight reel when we win.

If he is South African that ain't exactly West, more like South

Also, someone should tell him that West is atheist so no point pulling God card

GarryB wrote:

This made me laugh so damn hard. A grown man filming himself cry, piss, shit and cum on camera over his nazi butt buddies getting massacred has got to make it on a highlight reel when we win.

Hahaha... Putin and Russia are the problem?

Nah mate (on the video)... Russia and Putin are the solution to the war crimes and criminality that started in the Ukraine in 2014 but whose roots go back much further than that... like Ukranian nazis killing Poles and Russians which your current commander in chief seems to support and encourage.

His getting involved has prolonged the war and created more death... this war ends when the Ukraine military collapses... the longer that takes the less nazis left to deal with but of course the top ones always escape...

You haven't noticed the most hilarious part - IMO.
It is bitching about "tens of thousand of butchered civilians/children".
Those people are really so deluded.
On the other hand, traveling multiple thousand kilometers to take part in some war gives already a hint considering the mental status.

At the moment, Su-34 can carry two FAB1500 with correction modules. 

Or 4 FAB-500.

Each SU-34 can carry 10T.

Because of the modules with wings and control surfaces you can´t put
a bunch of them onto a multiple ejector rack as dumb bombs.

Yup, there was some vid with four bombs separating from one carrier.
Wonder if I can find it after a while