If the plane comes back in one piece and lands under his own power... it hasn´t been shot down.the enemy air defense system shot down the plane.
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If the plane comes back in one piece and lands under his own power... it hasn´t been shot down.the enemy air defense system shot down the plane.
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Hole wrote:Well, a big chunk of the american "defence" spending is financed with money from Germany.lazy German bastards won't pay 2% of the GDP for "defense".
Soon this financial river will run dry. But western politicians are to shortsighted to get that.
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Arkanghelsk wrote:What goals does the Russian army have left in Donbass?
In fact, there are still many cities in this region that need to be reclaimed in Russia. But the word “remained” was not used without reason. Because the return of small towns - up to 30 thousand - can be avoided with not too great losses. But it is difficult to imagine in a modern war the rapid capture of large cities: Konstantinovka, Druzhkovka. Kramatorsk and Slavyansk - writes Oleg Izmailov .
Kramatorsk is actually two cities in different planes (Old Town below, and Sotsgorod above). The huge areas of numerous factories, and especially NKMZ and KZTS, make Kramatorsk a target for an assault much more difficult than Mariupol.
Konstantinovka is a city on two steep spurs of the deepest ravine. True, most likely you will have to take it from Chasovy Yar and Artyomovsk, where the terrain is not so steep, thank God. But you will have to take it with two parallel blows. Because of the beam.
Druzhkovka is the only one of these four cities that is not complicated. But you can't get around it. It is between Kramatorsk and Konstantinovka.
Slavyansk. It is scattered and has an unpleasant street system and is surrounded by lakes and swamps on one side, and the elongated ridge of Mount Karachun, on which the Ukrainian Armed Forces stood in 1414, on the other. I’m sure it still stands today, and, of course, it has been strengthened over the years.
So our army’s first targets are small towns - Chasov Yar, Krasnogorovka, Ugledar, Krasny Liman, Kurakhovo, Selidovo, Belozersk and Aleksandrovka
And there is also Velikaya Novoselka, Aleksandrovka, Dimitrov and Krasnoarmeysk. In the latter there is a large station and railway. enterprises. But from there there is a straight and level road to Dnepropetrovsk.
Sprut-B wrote:Russian FAB glide bombs are literally a game changer.
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Worse. The UMPK glide bombs are platform agnostic so anything that can fly and carry a hefty payload can pressed into service as a precision bomber - and the Russians have hundreds of such obsolete/obsolescent aircraft in storage they can just tap into.Sprut-B wrote:Russian FAB glide bombs are literally a game changer.
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lyle6 wrote:Worse. The UMPK glide bombs are platform agnostic so anything that can fly and carry a hefty payload can pressed into service as a precision bomber - and the Russians have hundreds of such obsolete/obsolescent aircraft in storage they can just tap into.Sprut-B wrote:Russian FAB glide bombs are literally a game changer.
Imagine a couple months from now every front will have a persistent air cover with UMPK glide bombs just a call away like in Avdiivka. There will be no refuge for the enemy. Anything that can even remotely withstand an artillery barrage will get promoted to a destruction via UMPK.
There is no way anyone can fight under these conditions. The enemy will just die.
The vast majority of Russia's manufacturing capability is going towards building up stocks for a showdown against all of NATO. They're not leaving anything to chance. So when they turn up the heat like in Avdiivka that's when you truly get a glimpse of the extent of their capabilities.mnztr wrote:
The were delivering 200T a day during the final days at ardeevka. As terrifying as that is, if you think about it, that is still a very small fraction of their capability. Each SU-34 can carry 10T.
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lyle6 wrote:The vast majority of Russia's manufacturing capability is going towards building up stocks for a showdown against all of NATO. They're not leaving anything to chance. So when they turn up the heat like in Avdiivka that's when you truly get a glimpse of the extent of their capabilities.mnztr wrote:
The were delivering 200T a day during the final days at ardeevka. As terrifying as that is, if you think about it, that is still a very small fraction of their capability. Each SU-34 can carry 10T.
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Hole wrote:
It seems Biden secretly visited Russia.![]()
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SolidarityWithRussia wrote:These news gave me a good laugh. You got to love these farmers.![]()
mnztr wrote:
The were delivering 200T a day during the final days at ardeevka. As terrifying as that is, if you think about it, that is still a very small fraction of their capability. Each SU-34 can carry 10T.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:You are publicly defending warcrimes... the deliberate targeting of civilians.... and at the same time accusing Russia of that same warcrime when Orc SAMs miss their intended targets and hit apartment buildings and kill civilians.
You trained the dog... don't plead innocence when it starts murdering children in the neighbourhood... and what leash?"
Guilty by association tactics? Well alright we can use this logic.
Let's look at syria.
Before the war started Russia was supporting Assad, who has done not so nice things.
Again referring to before the civil war. So by that logic, are the Russians supporting crimes against humanity?
My point is simple to your silly logic. Yes we are arming Ukraine, but never had they got any order from us to attack civilians population centers.
They have done that on their own accord, now did we condemn them for it?.
No because we have a geopolitical goal for Ukraine and that takes precedent.
Just like the Russians have tolerated all the shit the Chinese have done, pre civil war syria etc because their geopolitical goals out weigh going "stop doing this or we won't help you"
Also no where did I defend what Ukraine did, I merely said "the didn't get orders from the white house to strike pure civilian targets"
Your putting words in my mouth, and yes any infrastructure in Russia used in support of the war effort is 100000000000 percent a legitimate military target.
Doesn't matter if civilians are working there or not, it's used to support your enemy in the war then it's fair game.
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Guilty by association tactics? Well alright we can use this logic.
Before the war started Russia was supporting Assad, who has done not so nice things.
Again referring to before the civil war. So by that logic, are the Russians supporting crimes against humanity?
My point is simple to your silly logic. Yes we are arming Ukraine, but never had they got any order from us to attack civilians population centers.
They have done that on their own accord, now did we condemn them for it?.
No because we have a geopolitical goal for Ukraine and that takes precedent.
Just like the Russians have tolerated all the shit the Chinese have done, pre civil war syria etc because their geopolitical goals out weigh going "stop doing this or we won't help you"
Also no where did I defend what Ukraine did, I merely said "the didn't get orders from the white house to strike pure civilian targets"
Your putting words in my mouth, and yes any infrastructure in Russia used in support of the war effort is 100000000000 percent a legitimate military target.
Doesn't matter if civilians are working there or not, it's used to support your enemy in the war then it's fair game.
That leaves option 3) continue to drip feed Ukraine out of US arsenals and prolong the inevitable
This compounds the limitations of American power and ability to fight multiple wars, while we don't even talk yet about a Taiwan war, which Americans need to horde weapons for as well
Well, a big chunk of the american "defence" spending is financed with money from Germany.
Soon this financial river will run dry. But western politicians are to shortsighted to get that.
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This made me laugh so damn hard. A grown man filming himself cry, piss, shit and cum on camera over his nazi butt buddies getting massacred has got to make it on a highlight reel when we win.
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This made me laugh so damn hard. A grown man filming himself cry, piss, shit and cum on camera over his nazi butt buddies getting massacred has got to make it on a highlight reel when we win.![]()
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GarryB wrote:This made me laugh so damn hard. A grown man filming himself cry, piss, shit and cum on camera over his nazi butt buddies getting massacred has got to make it on a highlight reel when we win.
Hahaha... Putin and Russia are the problem?
Nah mate (on the video)... Russia and Putin are the solution to the war crimes and criminality that started in the Ukraine in 2014 but whose roots go back much further than that... like Ukranian nazis killing Poles and Russians which your current commander in chief seems to support and encourage.
His getting involved has prolonged the war and created more death... this war ends when the Ukraine military collapses... the longer that takes the less nazis left to deal with but of course the top ones always escape...
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Or 4 FAB-500.At the moment, Su-34 can carry two FAB1500 with correction modules.
Because of the modules with wings and control surfaces you can´t putEach SU-34 can carry 10T.
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