Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+36
billybatts91
ahmedfire
TMA1
lancelot
jhelb
Sprut-B
Mir
ArgentinaGuard
Arrow
SeigSoloyvov
Sujoy
Tolstoy
JohninMK
LMFS
Walther von Oldenburg
higurashihougi
mnztr
lyle6
GarryB
PapaDragon
Kiko
kvs
Big_Gazza
ucmvulcan
thegopnik
Hole
Isos
GunshipDemocracy
Eugenio Argentina
Firebird
Karl Haushofer
sepheronx
Scorpius
Dr.Snufflebug
par far
ALAMO
40 posters

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    avatar
    Karl Haushofer


    Posts : 1234
    Points : 1227
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:37 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    I am ABSOLUTELY sure that every scum responsible for this will be found and destroyed. In Russia, bastards who committed terrorist attacks more than twenty years ago are still regularly found and eliminated (or sent to prison for decades).

    But if it is revealed that this was a state sponsored terror attack then it is NOT enough for Russia to go after the perpetrators but also after the planners.

    And sadly, Russia should also target the civilians of the country that helped to do this. Hundreds of Russian civilians were killed. Justice is only served with a tit-for-tat response. Eye for an eye.

    Russia has not benefited anything by trying to "play by the rules" before. Soft response only invites more aggression. If you can kill thousands of Russians with Russia only going after a dozen of people the trade off is very poor for Russia.


    Last edited by Karl Haushofer on Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
    avatar
    Karl Haushofer


    Posts : 1234
    Points : 1227
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:44 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:

    I see only talk but no action.

    Thank all the gods that you are now out of physical reach of me, scum. Believe me, your dental and plastic surgery bills would be huge.

    Why are you directing your aggression against me?

    I have been FOR YEARS calling for Russia to be more aggressive against its enemies.

    I HATED it when Putin gave Russian railways for the use of NATO in Afghan war in 2001. I knew it was an idiotic decision back then and my take was proven right later.

    What Russia should have instead done is to arm Taliban against NATO like the West armed Mujahideen against the Soviets in the 1980s. But Russia naively thought that making goodwill gestures would actually make the West like Russia. This was criminally naive and foolish.

    When Turkey shot down that Russian airplane there was no response from Russia. And then Russian ambassador was murdered in Turkey no response.

    When the USA attacked Russian base in Syria, again no response. When Azerbaijan shot down Russian helicopter, no response.

    When Russian civilians are killed by thousands the perpetrator countries remain safe.

    This is my main problem with Putin. He should have learned in his youth in Leningrad streets how life works.
    avatar
    Karl Haushofer


    Posts : 1234
    Points : 1227
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:50 pm

    World is really like a schoolyard.

    Those who refuse to defend themselves are beaten and bullied.

    Those who hit back are eventually left alone.

    I guarantee you this. Russia will not be left alone until it hits back. And no, not against Ukraine. Not against Kiev. But against Washington, London, Brussels, Paris and Berlin.

    Big_Gazza likes this post

    avatar
    Firebird


    Posts : 1811
    Points : 1841
    Join date : 2011-10-14

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Firebird Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:52 pm

    Pure evil.
    If Nuland knew this was going to happen, it needs to be offed. Publically and brutally.
    Terrorists (as it already was) can only be dealt
    with in one way.

    The Americunts (ie those in Washington, not all Americans) must be treated as the terrorists they are. They KNEW what was going to happen. Just as with Nordstream 2 being blown up.

    Also why combat fatigues and not all black uniforms? That suggests some sort of Nazi/Banderastani filth being employed.

    Russia needs to respond, like for like, AND a significant sum on top. Whoever it was.
    This shit could have been sorted in 48 hrs or so back in 2014. Instead Russia is pissing around because Putin insisted on pretending to be Gandhi.

    avatar
    Karl Haushofer


    Posts : 1234
    Points : 1227
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:55 pm

    Firebird wrote:
    This shit could have been sorted in 48 hrs or so back in 2014. Instead Russia is pissing around because Putin insisted on pretending to be Gandhi.
    Good take. This is one thing I forgot from my list. The moronic Minsk agreements.

    Russia could have taken all of Ukraine to Dniepr river in 2014 if Putin did not sign those agreements. As Merkel later admitted the West signed the agreements in bad faith, only to give Ukraine time to rearm and train its military.

    Even Putin himself now admits that he was betrayed by Merkel and the West.

    Without Minsk agreements Ukraine would have been militarily defeated and Russia would have saved tens of thousands of its soldiers lives.
    Eugenio Argentina
    Eugenio Argentina


    Posts : 4659
    Points : 4663
    Join date : 2018-02-25

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:04 pm

    Before making unfounded speculations, it would be best to wait for reliable information to appear.
    Until now, the only thing we know is that there was an attack carried out by several people. At first they don't seem to be suicidal.

    GarryB, d_taddei2 and Hole like this post

    avatar
    Karl Haushofer


    Posts : 1234
    Points : 1227
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:05 pm

    Firebird wrote:

    The Americunts (ie those in Washington, not all Americans) must be treated as the terrorists they are. They KNEW what was going to happen. Just as with Nordstream 2 being blown up.

    So if and when Russians will find out that the Americans were behind this what do you think Russia will do?
    GunshipDemocracy
    GunshipDemocracy


    Posts : 6168
    Points : 6188
    Join date : 2015-05-17
    Location : fishin on Stalin´s Strait between Mexico and Canada

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:08 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Allegedly, one of the perps has been taken alive. That is unusual for islamists, who usually off themselves one way or another.


    X.com : Podolyak scum

    Ukraine certainly has nothing to do with the shooting/explosions in the Crocus City Hall (Moscow Region, Russia). It makes no sense whatsoever.


    First of all, Ukraine has been fighting with the Russian army for more than two years. And everything in this war will be decided only on the battlefield. Only by the quantity of weapons and qualitative military decisions. Terrorist attacks do not solve any problems...

    Secondly, Ukraine has never resorted to the use of terrorist methods. lol1 lol1 lol1
    It is always pointless. Unlike, by the way, Russia itself, which uses terrorist attacks in the current war against Ukraine and earlier in its history attacked its own citizens to initiate subsequent "counter-terrorist actions" against protesting ethnic groups. Suffice it to recall the events on the Kashirskoye highway (Moscow) and in Volgodonsk...


    And thirdly, long before the events in #Crocus_City_Hall, we had heard public warnings from foreign embassies stationed in #Moscow about the possibility of such bloody excesses.
    so it was in not ukro the surely western planned


    As a conclusion: there is not the slightest doubt that the events in the Moscow suburbs will contribute to a sharp increase in military propaganda, accelerated militarization, expanded mobilization, and, ultimately, the scaling up of the war. And also to justify manifest genocidal strikes against the civilian population of Ukraine...

    Civilian population in Azov and French Foreign Legion humanitarian volunteers?

    d_taddei2, kvs and Hole like this post

    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11601
    Points : 11569
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Isos Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:17 pm

    Frankly, doesn't look like a ukrainian move. Maybe some isolated cells that don't obei Zelensky but I doubt they would allow such attack that would make them loose any support they had and allow russian to level even Kiev.

    GunshipDemocracy and Eugenio Argentina like this post

    avatar
    Firebird


    Posts : 1811
    Points : 1841
    Join date : 2011-10-14

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Firebird Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:18 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Firebird wrote:

    The Americunts (ie those in Washington, not all Americans) must be treated as the terrorists they are. They KNEW what was going to happen. Just as with Nordstream 2 being blown up.

    So if and when Russians will find out that the Americans were behind this what do you think Russia will do?

    I think they would say nothing publicly. Then maybe something would occur on American soil in 12 months time.

    Beyond that, I could see support to the Houthis or similar in the next week or so. American military are a sitting duck in 780 largely unwanted mil bases around the World.

    What puzzles me with this Islamist spin is that Russia's relations with most of the Islamist world are pretty good right now. After all, Russia is NOT particularly pro Israel, and generally believes in letting the Muslim would be left alone. Completely unlike the United Snakes/EU.

    So this all suggests perhaps America might have used "Manchurian candidate" type operatives. As was implied in some reports ie attackers in a daze, as if under hypnosis.
    Make no mistake, America considers terrorism against its rivals to be absolutely normal. Just see how Reagan and Bush armed the forerunners of ISIS and hailed Al Qaeda as "freedom fighters" vs Russia.

    America and its vassals need to be hit hard for any acts of evil they have committed.

    PS the British Establishment newspaper The Times once said that MI5 was at least "connected" to bombings in Moscow flats in the 1990s, as I recall. Surprising maybe... but there we are.
    Remember the West was heavily involved in arming Chechen terrorists.


    Last edited by Firebird on Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:24 pm; edited 2 times in total

    GarryB, d_taddei2 and Big_Gazza like this post

    Eugenio Argentina
    Eugenio Argentina


    Posts : 4659
    Points : 4663
    Join date : 2018-02-25

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:19 pm

    Convendría armar un hilo aparte sobre este incidente, para que no desvíe el tema de la guerra en Ucrania.
    GunshipDemocracy
    GunshipDemocracy


    Posts : 6168
    Points : 6188
    Join date : 2015-05-17
    Location : fishin on Stalin´s Strait between Mexico and Canada

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:20 pm

    Isos wrote:Frankly, doesn't look like a ukrainian move. Maybe some isolated cells that don't obei Zelensky but I doubt they would allow such attack that would make them loose any support they had and allow russian to level even Kiev.

    Zelensky has support because deep state want him to have it, not because of any sympathy from anyone. Sympathy is just effect of brainwashing by corpo media. It might be islamists helped by GRU for example. Let's see Russia's response ....
    avatar
    Dr.Snufflebug


    Posts : 1131
    Points : 1129
    Join date : 2017-12-27

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:26 pm

    Ukraine has conducted terrorist attacks for some 10 years, usually bombings though. An outright shooting massacre doesn't fit their terrorist MO (they've only done a few shootings, where they sacrifice some far-right nutter to kill some "political enemy", ie assassinations, often rather sloppy) but they are increasingly unhinged so I actually wouldn't put it past them. Budanov in particular has a thing for totally crazy terror antics, as we've seen.

    Big_Gazza, GunshipDemocracy, LMFS and Hole like this post

    Eugenio Argentina
    Eugenio Argentina


    Posts : 4659
    Points : 4663
    Join date : 2018-02-25

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:34 pm

    🇷🇺🇺🇦❗ Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev:

    “To the families of those killed in the terrorist attack, sincere condolences and sincere strength to all the loved ones of the victims.

    Terrorists understand only retaliatory terror. No trials or investigations will help if force is not countered by force, and deaths by total executions of terrorists and repressions against their families. World experience.

    If it is established that these are terrorists of the Kyiv regime, it is impossible to deal with them and their ideological inspirers differently. All of them must be found and mercilessly destroyed as terrorists. Including officials of the state that committed such atrocity.

    Death for death."

    Cool

    GarryB, d_taddei2, Big_Gazza, GunshipDemocracy and Hole like this post

    avatar
    Dr.Snufflebug


    Posts : 1131
    Points : 1129
    Join date : 2017-12-27

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:40 pm

    The guy that was apprehended earlier does not look like a beardie...
    avatar
    Firebird


    Posts : 1811
    Points : 1841
    Join date : 2011-10-14

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Firebird Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:43 pm

    Aren't we still waiting for the 2014 Odessa terrorists and their backers to be liquidated?
    Eugenio Argentina
    Eugenio Argentina


    Posts : 4659
    Points : 4663
    Join date : 2018-02-25

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:45 pm

    Note that not all terrorists have military clothing.

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 GJTWhC7WsAEnWHr?format=jpg&name=large

    Cool
    Eugenio Argentina
    Eugenio Argentina


    Posts : 4659
    Points : 4663
    Join date : 2018-02-25

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:49 pm

    4 terrorists shooting between the seats of the concert hall in Moscow.
    It is noticeable that they go with their faces uncovered.


    https://t.me/intelslava/56286
    avatar
    Karl Haushofer


    Posts : 1234
    Points : 1227
    Join date : 2015-05-03

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:50 pm

    Firebird wrote:Aren't we still waiting for the 2014 Odessa terrorists and their backers to be liquidated?

    I understand that some of these terrorists are in high positions in Ukraine now. They were rewarded plenty for their deeds.
    Eugenio Argentina
    Eugenio Argentina


    Posts : 4659
    Points : 4663
    Join date : 2018-02-25

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:55 pm

    🇷🇺⚡The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Moscow and the Moscow region has introduced the Zarya plan. All personnel
    must arrive at work within an hour, including those who have days off.

    Everyone must be armed and equipped.

    d_taddei2, Big_Gazza and Hole like this post

    Eugenio Argentina
    Eugenio Argentina


    Posts : 4659
    Points : 4663
    Join date : 2018-02-25

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:01 pm

    ⚡🇷🇺 Regarding the alleged wanted posters of 5 people from Ingushetia.

    It is fake, officials from the Investigative Committee, FSB, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs have not yet sent information about the suspects.

    d_taddei2, Big_Gazza, GunshipDemocracy and Hole like this post

    avatar
    Dr.Snufflebug


    Posts : 1131
    Points : 1129
    Join date : 2017-12-27

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:08 pm

    People say Ukrainian numbers were spamming the Moscow emergency dispatchers with false information during the attack.

    That reminds me of what occured during the devastating fire in Kemerovo in 2018. While that was an accident, coordinated Ukrainian "phone trolls" did everything they could to sow more panic among people and they spammed emergency responders with false information to delay things.

    I think it's the same Ukrainian call centers that are scamming European pensioners all the time.

    GarryB, d_taddei2, kvs, PapaDragon, GunshipDemocracy, LMFS, Hole and lancelot like this post

    Hole
    Hole


    Posts : 11118
    Points : 11096
    Join date : 2018-03-24
    Age : 48
    Location : Scholzistan

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Hole Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:11 pm

    which uses terrorist attacks in the current war against Ukraine 
    Sleep Sleep Sleep

    protesting ethnic groups.
    What happens to protesting ethnic groups in the west can be seen in Palestine right now.

    manifest genocidal strikes against the civilian population of Ukraine...
    Less civilians killed in 2+ years (mostly by the Kiev regime) then in 6 months in Palestine.
    Compare the handful of people injured in the massive russian drone and missile attacks today
    to the roughly 20.000 killed children in Gaza.

    The guy that was apprehended earlier does not look like a beardie...
    Most Nazis don´t have bald heads anymore, so it´s possible that a american-led Daesh fighter
    could shave his beard off.


    Last edited by Hole on Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:20 pm; edited 1 time in total

    GarryB, Big_Gazza, kvs, GunshipDemocracy, Eugenio Argentina and LMFS like this post

    Eugenio Argentina
    Eugenio Argentina


    Posts : 4659
    Points : 4663
    Join date : 2018-02-25

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:19 pm

    Footage of the first minutes of the terrorist attack - a group of armed people gets out of a white car and opens fire on people at the entrance to the Crocus City Hall building

    https://t.me/milinfolive/118854

    Hole likes this post

    Eugenio Argentina
    Eugenio Argentina


    Posts : 4659
    Points : 4663
    Join date : 2018-02-25

    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:35 pm

    ❗A number of sources report that the terrorist organization Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall. It is alleged that the militants managed to escape.

    Sponsored content


    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack - Page 2 Empty Re: Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:16 am