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    Post  franco Sat May 18, 2024 2:38 pm

    There are a number of Ukrainians around here but I have been bombarded lately with Nigerian workers and I'm retired...
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    Post  Isos Sat May 18, 2024 3:34 pm

    I just came acctoss this map of russian oil reserve in purple. Quite interesting the west thought they could make them run out of fuel in the beggining... their oil reserves are bigger than Ukraine.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat May 18, 2024 3:36 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Those guys have had mental issues for a while.

    lol1 lol1 lol1




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    Post  Mir Sat May 18, 2024 3:39 pm

    Isos wrote:I just came acctoss this map of russian oil reserve in purple. Quite interesting the west thought they could make them run out of fuel in the beggining... their oil reserves are bigger than Ukraine.

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    Why do you think the west is so "interested" in Russia. Russia has vast resources (not just oil and gas) unlike any other country in the world.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat May 18, 2024 3:59 pm

    Hole wrote:They really believe that shit.  No

    Good

    More than anything, Western ignorance of Russia has done nothing but play into Russia's hands throughout the whole war

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    Post  kvs Sat May 18, 2024 4:31 pm

    @Isos

    That map does not show the Bazhenov formation. This is a huge (two trillion barrel estimated) non-conventional oil reservoir zone. Gazprom has been
    adapting fracking technology to the characteristics of this formation and in the future it will be exploited.

    BTW, the Bazhenov formation is not a scam like the Green River shale kerogen "oil" deposits.

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    Post  Hole Sat May 18, 2024 4:48 pm

    They got rid of most equipment reserves
    Not only reserves, but active duty stuff.
    Some units of the Marines had to give up their Himars launchers.
    Denmark gave up most if not all of her howitzers.

    while a large part of western GDP is based on financial frauds,
    As I stated before, try to stop a T-72B3 with a Credit Default Swap.

    briefing reports 1725 casualties 
    We are closing in on the 2.000 mark, baby!!!

    they flamed up a fuel tank in a middle of nowhere!
    And some 50kg drone hit some empty parking lot.

    As long as conflict is being carried at +/- 100 km wide belt - it is a part that will need rebuilding.
    That´s the plan.
    Some remnants of the regime will hide in bigger cities and run to the western regions,
    but the damages done by hunting them down will be relatively minimal.

    I have been bombarded lately with Nigerian workers
    Who is throwing them?  Suspect

    Quite interesting the west thought they could make them run out of fuel in the beggining.
    There are trains full of oil/fuel going to China on a daily basis, each of which
    could fuel the whole SMO for a week.
    (Propably exaggerated a little, but you get the point.)

    Western ignorance of Russia has done nothing but play into Russia's hands throughout the whole war
    On the flip side: They could be ignorant enough to send troops (openly) or do even more
    stupid things.

    That map does not show the Bazhenov formation. 
    Some offshore deposits are missing, too.

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    Post  bandit6 Sat May 18, 2024 6:52 pm

    It would be nice if most of the fanboys here take a look at the proukraine telegram and forums. Russia is paying a heavy cost in manpower. While it's not as high as Ukraine it's not sustainable

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat May 18, 2024 6:58 pm

    bandit6 wrote:It would be nice if most of the fanboys here take a look at the proukraine telegram and forums. Russia is paying a heavy cost in manpower. While it's not as high as Ukraine it's not sustainable

    Good, means Ukraine's got this in the bag

    You can now just relax and enjoy the show until inevitable Ukrainian victory thumbsup


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    Post  Mir Sat May 18, 2024 7:07 pm

    Ukraine's victory will be swift and will retake Crimea from the ork invaders in 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026...2045

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    Post  Broski Sat May 18, 2024 7:08 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Western ignorance of Russia has done nothing but play into Russia's hands throughout the whole war
    On the flip side: They could be ignorant enough to send troops (openly) or do even more stupid things.
    I hope they do, NATO troops need to start dying (openly) in this clown conflict instead of hopeless Ukrainian conscripts (Nazi battalions can keep dying though, that's fine). Let Poland, France and the UK have to justify to their people why thousands of their soldiers are getting killed in the Ukraine every week fighting Russia for a corrupt, homosexual, Khazar midget.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat May 18, 2024 7:14 pm

    For them to say 0.5% is the amount of their contribution is a lie

    Yes they have more equipment, but we are not talking about equipment

    The biggest contribution of the west is ISR, that is the KH-11 Khrennen keyhole sat constellation, the microsats for optical recon, the electronic signals sats and comms, the starlink constellation, the radars, the AWACS support, the training and political assistance

    All of this is much more significant then just giving them vehicles and weapons, which they have done , and are incapable of replacing even the little they have used

    So it's erroneous for western fanboys to really think that their equipment is just able to change anything jn the war

    No actually they are assisting Ukraine with more than 70% of their ISR capability and the equipment is just an enabling potential

    But it would not change anything, it would just be more destroyed equipment that they cannot replace

    That's the real reason they don't increase support

    On paper they have huge stocks, but in reality, if they start losing and using that equipment it is basically gone forever as they can't replace or sustain the rates of loss

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat May 18, 2024 7:16 pm

    bandit6 wrote:It would be nice if most of the fanboys here take a look at the proukraine telegram and forums. Russia is paying a heavy cost in manpower. While it's not as high as Ukraine it's not sustainable

    I am sorry, but after grandma downs missile with jam, ghost of chicken kiev, Ukraine has super double secret weapon, glorious offensive will turn tide, we are democracy, etc I decided to pay no attention to anything pro Ukrainian because all you fascist zombies do is lie.  Here is what we do know.  Claims of genocide by Russia are dogshit, 25,000 civilian dead in more than two years of war is remarkable considering that the "rules based world order" murdered anywhere from 30 to 500 thousand Iraqis a year and that Netenyahu has murdered over 100,000 Palestinian civilians.  Claims of the superiority of NATO weapons are dogshit.  Claims that Russia's economy would collapse are dog shit.  Claims that Russia was isolated are dogshit.  Claims that Schroedinger's Putin -too weak to win in Ukraine yet an existential threat to Europe unless you give hundreds of billions of dollars to the most corrupt nation on the planet are dogshit.  Casualty claims of 31 thousand Ukrainians are dogshit as that number is half a million dead and possibly up to three times that many permanently disabled.  Those rare times the west accidentally tells the truth we see that Russia has sadly lost 51,000 brave warriors fighting against fascism.  That said, the unsustainable claim is of course dog shit.

    Now my question is why should anyone willingly take a look at pro Ukrainian dog shit? Especially their "social media?" Hey if you want to plate up a heaping steaming portion of dog shit go ahead, but don't try to say its chocolate because the smell gives it away

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    Post  ALAMO Sat May 18, 2024 7:26 pm

    Well said, sir.

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    Post  Mir Sat May 18, 2024 7:32 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56 - Page 38 Gu_20110

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    Post  ALAMO Sat May 18, 2024 7:33 pm

    This one sits in my zoo, but I must admit that IT used to be a while when I saw his dog shit not displayed 🤭

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat May 18, 2024 7:49 pm

    pwnd pwnd pwnd pwnd

    https://www.rt.com/russia/597824-ukraine-law-mobilization-prisoners/

    Zelensky approves mobilization of convicts

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat May 18, 2024 7:59 pm

    higurashihougi wrote: pwnd  pwnd  pwnd  pwnd

    https://www.rt.com/russia/597824-ukraine-law-mobilization-prisoners/

    Zelensky approves mobilization of convicts

    Well lets see no fight no pension (gets rid of the elderly), sending out the feeble minded and crippled and the lame (gets rid of the disabled), and now the convicts. So are they tryring to reduce their surplus population now?

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    Post  Isos Sat May 18, 2024 8:32 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote: pwnd  pwnd  pwnd  pwnd

    https://www.rt.com/russia/597824-ukraine-law-mobilization-prisoners/

    Zelensky approves mobilization of convicts

    Well lets see no fight no pension (gets rid of the elderly), sending out the feeble minded and crippled and the lame (gets rid of the disabled), and now the convicts.  So are they tryring to reduce their surplus population now?

    Once no more prisoners in prisons, guards will be taken to the front too and they will meet there again in a hell of a prison, trenches.

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    Post  bandit6 Sat May 18, 2024 8:35 pm

    I am just saying that there are many Russian dead on the battle field everyday . The receipts are there. and while Ukraine can't win, neither can Russia don't understand why y'all ladies are getting worked up.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat May 18, 2024 8:57 pm

    bandit6 wrote:I am just saying that there are many Russian dead on the battle field everyday . The receipts are there. and while Ukraine can't win, neither can Russia don't understand why y'all ladies are getting worked up.

    I'm just saying they are killing Ukes at 10:1. 51 thousand is a tragedy, but remember your boyfriends in Ukraine claimed they had killed 80,000 by the time of Putin's March 2022 rally at Luzhniki. That was later determined to be a lie. Sorry bullshit69, but I ain't interested in Ukronazi fairy tales as told by tofu farting fairies.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat May 18, 2024 9:04 pm

    10:1 ratio, in 10 times bigger society.
    Guess who can play the game for longer?

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat May 18, 2024 9:17 pm

    ALAMO wrote:10:1 ratio, in 10 times bigger society.
    Guess who can play the game for longer?

    Nonsense! Ukraine is winning, Ukrainian social media says so! Send money!!!!! Ideally, when sending money, please send a signed blank check and be sure to have a large bank account with no daily withdrawal limitations, but send that money!!!! A lack of funds and like any democracy, and you end on the hit list. You ask to audit that money, and you end up on the list, so remember send us money, its none of your business how its spent. Remember Ukrainian democracy is like bats, it needs darkness to survive

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    Post  franco Sat May 18, 2024 9:25 pm

    From the very beginning of the Russian special operation, the Ukrainian army relied on Western weapons, since its own reserves did not allow fighting for a long time. Since February 2022, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have received more than 800 tanks from the allies alone. The Russian General Staff calculated the number of weapons and equipment transferred to Kyiv.

    According to data from an article by the head of the Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Igor Kostyukov, published in the magazine “Military Thought”, since February 2022, the countries of the collective West have transferred $132 billion worth of weapons to Ukraine, of which 63 are from the United States.

    As the admiral writes, NATO’s main task is to prolong the conflict in Ukraine in order to inflict as much damage on Russia as possible. In total, the Ukrainian army received about 800 tanks of Soviet and Western production, more than 3.5 thousand armored combat vehicles, about 1.5 thousand artillery pieces, about 270 MLRS, more than 250 anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM), 7.7 thousand portable Air defense systems, up to 290 thousand anti-tank weapons, 130 aircraft and helicopters, over 30 thousand UAVs.

    At the moment, the West is paying more attention to the supply of high-precision weapons to Ukraine , in particular Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG aircraft guided missiles, as well as ATACMS operational-tactical missiles. The main suppliers are the USA, Great Britain and France. Also, in the near future, Kyiv will receive American fourth-generation F-16 fighters from European countries.

    The provision of intelligence information to Ukraine from NATO countries should not be overlooked. The United States was especially successful in this, using not only military but also civilian satellites in Kyiv’s interests.

    https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/242571-v-rossijskom-genshtabe-podschitali-kolichestvo-peredannoj-kievu-voennoj-tehniki-i-vooruzhenij-s-nachala-svo.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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