Russian-Made Crash Notification

miketheterrible wrote:

You stated that Russia has more crashes than US and NATO combined.  Please provide such data to prove it.  NOW.

They lose hundreds of people every couple of months

miketheterrible wrote:I am going to ask, for the last time, to provide citation to your claims.

Now you made another one:

They lose hundreds of people every couple of months

So, one last time, provide proof.  This is citations I am asking for.  If you do not, I will address this further.

You talk a lot, but provided nothing of the sort of any kind of evidence to your claims.  So, for the best interest of this forums, the integrity of it, its staff and for the intelligence of people, provide it.  Otherwise, you are completely retarded and should have been aborted.

Vann7 wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BTW, do you have proven statistics of this statement:

Russia have the WORLD worse record in plane accidents of any nation
by FAR.. Even more than NATO combined.

I check RT every day ,and western media too.. And i never see Americans being killed in military planes every months in non combat zone.  If you look at all the Russian accident.. it is almost guarantee that they will have ONE or at least TWO fucking accidents per month ,where two or dozens or more gets killed. If not Mi-8 hellicopters ,then transportation planes or even modern combat jets and bombers.  you will read e v e r y  m o n t h. . breaking news a russian plane crashed bla bla bla. This is not normal at all. No fucking way.  This is total abysmal incompetence of the Russian government.  At the same time When you compare the track record of the Private commercial airplanes industry . it is quite very good. Every day thousands and thousands of civilians planes from civilian airliners enters and leave Russia.
You read that THOUSANDS!!!! and is very rare when civilian dies in planes accidents in Russia not related to terrorism . Then why the track record of Russian government military aircraft is so awfully bad? They fly significantly far less planes with much less staff required to maintain the plane ,yet still they all fail miserable  and i really think it had all to do with the abysmal quality controls and management and supervision of the Russia military aviation industry.

For me nothing will be more scary than traveling in a Russian military plane or hellicopter after knowing how many crash every year. 

You could be a fan of Russia military hardware and technology but that doesn't means you have to justify the Government incompetence and very bad management and quality controls of their facilities that provide service to their aircraft . The government should be the one that set the example to the private industry in quality controls and security and not the other way.

Vann7 wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:I am going to ask, for the last time, to provide citation to your claims.

Now you made another one:

They lose hundreds of people every couple of months

So, one last time, provide proof.  This is citations I am asking for.  If you do not, I will address this further.

You talk a lot, but provided nothing of the sort of any kind of evidence to your claims.  So, for the best interest of this forums, the integrity of it, its staff and for the intelligence of people, provide it.  Otherwise, you are completely retarded and should have been aborted.

So you need "Stadistics" to be convinced there is something really wrong with Russia
record in aircraft accidents? 

Dude you have to be really in denial to not see Russia have a BIG BIG PROBLEM..
with aircraft accidents. I complained early in december for another accident ,now we are still 
in the same month and again more bad news. When is going to stop this madness?

on a side note. this accident seems suspiciously happening at the same time Obama/CIA/ were speaking about retaliation to Russia for the so called hacking and Israel newspapers were warning of a major event 100x times worse than the ambassador killed that will trigger world war 3.  

Still this does not will change Russia horrible track record in accident. Which i have been complaining for a long time , you can check by older post in this forum.

Vann7 wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:I am going to ask, for the last time, to provide citation to your claims.

Now you made another one:

They lose hundreds of people every couple of months

So, one last time, provide proof.  This is citations I am asking for.  If you do not, I will address this further.

You talk a lot, but provided nothing of the sort of any kind of evidence to your claims.  So, for the best interest of this forums, the integrity of it, its staff and for the intelligence of people, provide it.  Otherwise, you are completely retarded and should have been aborted.

So you need "Stadistics" to be convinced there is something really wrong with Russia
record in aircraft accidents? 

Dude you have to be really in denial to not see Russia have a BIG BIG PROBLEM..
with aircraft accidents. I complained early in december for another accident ,now we are still 
in the same month and again more bad news. When is going to stop this madness?

on a side note. this accident seems suspiciously happening at the same time Obama/CIA/ were speaking about retaliation to Russia for the so called hacking and Israel newspapers were warning of a major event 100x times worse than the ambassador killed that will trigger world war 3.  

Still this does not change Russia horrible track record in accident. And sorry for this is NOT Normal. If this rate was normal , then you will have Boeing planes crashing in Russia 2-3 times a month or more since every month Thousands of planes travel there.. and this is not the case.

Every year millions of civilian airliners fly and no crash. yet Russia makes more headlines for accidents with airplanes than any other country in the world.

Svyatoslavich wrote:"Shitty old Tu-154"? Do you have an idea of how many shittier and older KC-135 are flying around at this moment? That airplane was first flown in 1983, probably didn't log that many hours as it wasn't used for commercial flights, and we should imagine that it receives a good maintenance.

miketheterrible wrote:Well, that is gonna cost a few million to repair and possibly dismissal of one of the pilots.

JohninMK wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Well, that is gonna cost a few million to repair and possibly dismissal of one of the pilots.

Eh? These are tough as old boots built like tanks Russian planes, not delicate Western ones. Bottle of T-Cut and they will be like new

miketheterrible wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Well, that is gonna cost a few million to repair and possibly dismissal of one of the pilots.

Eh? These are tough as old boots built like tanks Russian planes, not delicate Western ones. Bottle of T-Cut and they will be like new

lol.

Well, damage looks like minimal so it will cost little to repair.

Militarov wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Well, that is gonna cost a few million to repair and possibly dismissal of one of the pilots.

Eh? These are tough as old boots built like tanks Russian planes, not delicate Western ones. Bottle of T-Cut and they will be like new

lol.

Well, damage looks like minimal so it will cost little to repair.

"Cost little" in aviation as term is absurd just to tell you . Prices in aviation are high beyond imagination, the most basic items that you would belive cost few hundred USD (which they should actually) cost few tens of thousand, just coz they are being used by Air Force. Engine covers for MiG-29 cost more than used car, basically just 4 sheets of metal...

If we find out it was mechanical failure or system failure, do you guys think it will end the Tu-154 overall to make way of something new like Tu-204 for military use?