Su-30 for Russian Air Force

ult wrote:

4 Su-30SM that were delivered in 2014 are serving in Dzemgi Khabarovsk region as 2 seaters alongside Su-35S.

i think the Su-30s that serving alongside the Su-35s as trainers are Su-30M2 not Su-30SM. There have been ordered 20. 4 are serving alongside Su-27SM3. The rest 16 alongside the 48 Su-35s. That is 4 trainers along with 12 fighters

George1 wrote:

ult wrote:

4 Su-30SM that were delivered in 2014 are serving in Dzemgi Khabarovsk region as 2 seaters alongside Su-35S.

i think the Su-30s that serving alongside the Su-35s as trainers are Su-30M2 not Su-30SM. There have been ordered 20. 4 are serving alongside Su-27SM3. The rest 16 alongside the 48 Su-35s. That is 4 trainers along with 12 fighters

No, all Su-30M2 serve together with Su-27SM3 in Krymsk air base and with Su-27SM in Vladivostok and some in Belbek air base in Crimea. They don't have all 30 Su-30M2 yet, I think they will receive 4 or 5 of them in this year to finish the order.

George1 wrote:

ult wrote:

4 Su-30SM that were delivered in 2014 are serving in Dzemgi Khabarovsk region as 2 seaters alongside Su-35S.

i think the Su-30s that serving alongside the Su-35s as trainers are Su-30M2 not Su-30SM. There have been ordered 20. 4 are serving alongside Su-27SM3. The rest 16 alongside the 48 Su-35s. That is 4 trainers along with 12 fighters

There are 4 Su-30SM in Dzemgi. Numbers 14, 15, 16 , 17. https://vk.com/su30_family

ult wrote:By the end of 2016 Millerovo will have 24 Su-30SM and 12 Su-35S. After that their rearmament will be complete.

Which is ironic, since Su-27UB in line units used to be mainly for squadron commanders, so there would be only 3-4 per regiment. Now it's the opposite.

The TO&E in IAPs is completely disorganised seemingly.

ult wrote:

George1 wrote:

ult wrote:

4 Su-30SM that were delivered in 2014 are serving in Dzemgi Khabarovsk region as 2 seaters alongside Su-35S.

i think the Su-30s that serving alongside the Su-35s as trainers are Su-30M2 not Su-30SM. There have been ordered 20. 4 are serving alongside Su-27SM3. The rest 16 alongside the 48 Su-35s. That is 4 trainers along with 12 fighters

There are 4 Su-30SM in Dzemgi. Numbers 14, 15, 16 , 17. https://vk.com/su30_family

There are 4 30SM's in Dzemgi and this week 9 Su-35's and 3 Su-30SM's participated as a squadron in ground attack training. Have never read it anywhere but I believe they are still working out some bugs in the Su-35's.

What kinda bugs if you may know?

Don't... but operational status has been slow in coming.

Most probably it is about armament integration. Su-35 comes to units before they receive their basic armament, which are R-77-1 and R-37M missiles. Most probably bugs are in integration of R-37M missiles and L-band AESA complex, which are totally new and no plane have them before. Successful integration will be also important for PAK FA, which also use them both. Su-30SM doesn't have them, so all armament is already integrated in it and with that fully operational.

The R-77-1 has only just been ordered...we'll probably see it in 2016

Some R-77-1's are already delivered to atleast one MiG-31BM unit...

Berkut wrote:Some R-77-1's are already delivered to atleast one MiG-31BM unit...

It seems Su-35 unit also get them.

I guess plasma stealth is turned on. AKU-170 =/= R-77-1. And i am aware some Su-35S' has been flying with them since summer.

Berkut wrote:Some R-77-1's are already delivered to atleast one MiG-31BM unit...

Nice to hear....is that based on the pic of the MiG-31 with the new pylons?

Austin posted a link to Takeoff magazine that from memory stated the RVV-SD were in production and service but that the RVV-MD needed extra work.

SD is R-77 and MD is R-74.

My understanding is that they are having problems with the IIR seeker and datalink of the R-74.

GarryB wrote:Austin posted a link to Takeoff magazine that from memory stated the RVV-SD were in production and service but that the RVV-MD needed extra work.

SD is R-77 and MD is R-74.

My understanding is that they are having problems with the IIR seeker and datalink of the R-74.

AFAIK Russia have to replace IR seeker in R-74 from Ukraine with domestic one, which is developed in company in Azov. They sid, that replacement with new domestic seeker was successful and that production will start next year. R-77-1 and I think R-37M are already in production and I think first batches of at least R-77-1 were delivered, most probably for integration on fighters.

Cyberspec wrote:

Berkut wrote:Some R-77-1's are already delivered to atleast one MiG-31BM unit...

Nice to hear....is that based on the pic of the MiG-31 with the new pylons?

It is based on information from a MiG-31BM pilot that has seen them himself.

Berkut wrote:I guess plasma stealth is turned on. AKU-170 =/= R-77-1. And i am aware some Su-35S' has been flying with them since summer.

Do you have any write up on Plasma Stealth in either Russian or English? Спасибо

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1587759.html

Looks like Su-30SM in Syria get RVV-MD missiles. I hope they will also get R-77-1 too.

This is R-73 missile.

Arrow wrote:This is R-73 missile.

^Yup.

Arrow wrote:This is R-73 missile.

Laser fuse, looks like RVV-MD

David-Lanza wrote:

Arrow wrote:This is R-73 missile.

Laser fuse, looks like RVV-MD

Laser fuze isn't something that new was used before on missiles.

Technically the laser fuse model is called R-73EL.

Not saying this isn't RVV-MD but this is not evidence that it is.

Looks like Su-30SM in Syria get RVV-MD missiles. I hope they will also get R-77-1 too.

Any model R-73 is potent enough for the job... it is a very capable missile.

Afaik R-73EL is the export version, the domestic version is called R-73L. The radio fused one is called R-73E for export and R-73K for domestic version.

3 more Su-30SM to Millerovo for a total of 8 so far this year.

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1622670.html