franco wrote:From an article in the Military Aviation thread posted today by George1;
The production of Su-30SM multi-functional fighters by 2022 will be practically completed. According to Kommersant's information, the UAC needs to ensure the loading of capacities of about 100 Su-30SM by 2022 - about 50 will be purchased for naval aviation needs, and 50 will be exported. After that, all military programs (with the exception of combat training Yak-130 and training Yak-152) will go to the Sukhoi corporation (the manufacturer of the Su-35 and Su-57 fighters).
NOTE: There will be 16 left under order after 2017 delivers are complete. So perhaps another 50 by the end of 2022 (4 years)? Will have wait and see if that means another 66 after this year or only a total of 50.
Well it's one of the dozens of prense articles that every year contribute to confusión
He can not say when the production of Su-30SM will end, because that depends on the contracts that Irkut Corporation receives
Yes , there are 16 planes remaining for Russia (8 VKS & 8 Navy) , to hand over before 2018 ending , but that does not mean that in 2018 no more can be produced for Russia
Next year , after the presidential election on march , it will be announced the new State Arms Plan 2018-2025 , and more contracts will be signed ,probably during or after the MAKS , and probably the production will grow again
This article only says : UAC
needs to ensure the loading of capacities of about 100 Su-30SM : about 50 will be purchased for naval aviation needs, and 50 will be exported
Well Irkut produced 31 Su-30SM in 2015 and could produce some more , then in the five years 2018 to 2022 could produce 160 or until 180 airplanes if has more contracts
In the first place, he forgets the VKS:
As mínimum VKS will get 120 Su-30SM: 24 Millerovo , 24 Kursk , 24 Domna , 8 Kubinka , 6 Akhtubinsk , 6 Lipestk and two seaters for 7 ?? Su-35 regiments (28)
Then , as only 88 are contracted by VKS , it will be necesary other contract of at least 32 Su-30SM for VKS
This could be received in 4 years 2019-2022 at the rate of 8 aircraft per year
About the Navy , there are 28 planes contracted:
12 for Saki , 12 for Chernyakhovsk , 2 "two seaters" ?? for 279 KIAP and perhaps other 2 for Yeisk training center of Navy
If " about 50 will be contracted" , this is only 4 squadrons , not enough for 4 regiments , one each fleet
If Saki and Chernyakhovsk are completed , then only 24 for other regiment in North Fleet .... but , what about the Pacific Fleet ??
About the Su-30SM for other countries:
-Kazajstán will get 24 for 2020 (this year recives 2 and reaches 8 ). Then, for the moment other 16 are pending for 2018-2020 .The total Kazajstán wants is about 32-36
-Belarus: 12 are contracted for receive until 2020 starting late 2017 or 2018 .After that colud have a second contract
-Bangladesh: 8-12 to be contracted of Su-30SME export version. Bangladesh have plans for until 3 squadrons
-Iran is also interested
Imporved version Su-30SM1 and versión for export Su-30SME were presented this same year, then is probably the production will continue some more years
miketheterrible wrote:Guess Irkut will rely on trainer jet production and MS-21 and that's it. I figured the Su-30 was very lucrative for them, and they will hand all future dealings of it to KnAAPO itself instead. Interesting. So future upgrades and production will be handled by KnAAPO meaning even Su-30MKI upgrades, SM1, SME, etc. So producer of Su-30MK series will have chance to upgrade both line of jets. Since they have all the newest tech too.....
This article does not make any sense
UAC will do what the govemment of Russia tells him to do
KnaAPO has a production line of Su-35 and in a short time it will have a second production line for the Su-57, so it can not take charge of the Su-30SM production and variants
NAPO have the Su-34 , not sure if could produce more aircraft, but would not be reasonable to change the production of production plant once it works at full capacity
The reasonable is that the production of the Su-30SM will continue throughout the time of SAP 2018-2025 if there are no more contracts from foreign countries