In the following video the size of the BTR-90 relative to the BTR-80 is apparent.
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Russian Ground Forces: News #1
TheArmenian- Posts : 1880
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- Post n°586
Re: Russian Ground Forces: News #1
I am sure they are not doing research just for the sake of research. Boomerang is a likely candidate.
In the following video the size of the BTR-90 relative to the BTR-80 is apparent.
In the following video the size of the BTR-90 relative to the BTR-80 is apparent.
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What an amazing vehicle. Nice to see that 90series is being used as testbed
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Electric drive would have a range of benefits including getting rid of the gearing and transmission and the fitting of 8 powerful electric motors... one for each wheel.
This means that you don't need diffs and can run each wheel at any speed or direction you like... you can go as fast forward as you can backwards and your traction control can be for each wheel improving performance on soft ground or snow.
It also means that the vehicle can be much quieter.
A problem that would need to be dealt with would be how you store power... generating it is no problem as a gas turbine running with a dynamo at optimum speed for max fuel efficiency would be a compact and efficient way of generating electricity where its lack of torque becomes irrelevant.
Gas Turbines are not very efficient driving wheels through gears directly because accelerating under load is very inefficient and uses a lot of fuel... diesel engines are much more efficient for constant acceleration.
However when a gas turbine is just spinning a dynamo and generating electricity running at a high and constant speed without a load or acceleration issues then the smaller compact GT becomes more efficient than a diesel... especially when the power increases beyond 2KW and the Diesels become huge.
It looks like it will only be a matter of time before the commander of an armoured vehicle is transfering power from his shields and armour to his guns and then to propulsion to get out of there.... awesome.
This means that you don't need diffs and can run each wheel at any speed or direction you like... you can go as fast forward as you can backwards and your traction control can be for each wheel improving performance on soft ground or snow.
It also means that the vehicle can be much quieter.
A problem that would need to be dealt with would be how you store power... generating it is no problem as a gas turbine running with a dynamo at optimum speed for max fuel efficiency would be a compact and efficient way of generating electricity where its lack of torque becomes irrelevant.
Gas Turbines are not very efficient driving wheels through gears directly because accelerating under load is very inefficient and uses a lot of fuel... diesel engines are much more efficient for constant acceleration.
However when a gas turbine is just spinning a dynamo and generating electricity running at a high and constant speed without a load or acceleration issues then the smaller compact GT becomes more efficient than a diesel... especially when the power increases beyond 2KW and the Diesels become huge.
It looks like it will only be a matter of time before the commander of an armoured vehicle is transfering power from his shields and armour to his guns and then to propulsion to get out of there.... awesome.
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Will this so called Hybrid Vehical end up in Boomerang or other vehical under development ?
Or will they go for classic diesel model ?
Or will they go for classic diesel model ?
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Is the Russian military moving towards more transparency?
GarryB- Posts : 40562
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Will this so called Hybrid Vehical end up in Boomerang or other vehical under development ?
Or will they go for classic diesel model ?
I would guess it would depend on the maturity of the technology and the direct benefits possible now.
They might not employ it now in the first generation vehicles, but a second generation upgrade it might be worth while... especially in conjunction with powered armour or an EM powered main gun.
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What is this?
Austin- Posts : 7617
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30 mm Grenade Launcher with some kind of Ground Based Radar likely to improve accuracy in all weather condition and to make correction in firing like Artillery Radar ....but thats just my guess
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Austin wrote:30 mm Grenade Launcher with some kind of Ground Based Radar likely to improve accuracy in all weather condition and to make correction in firing like Artillery Radar ....but thats just my guess
thats the obvious guess but would be interesting to see if someone knows what this babies could do.
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It's kind of Fara ground surveillance radar mounted on grenade launcher or on machine gun. I think they use it to find targets in bad weather and nights.
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Seen radars like that long time ago, never seen a video of them being used in real life scenario. Not even a story. Anyone can shed some light about them? Have they ever been used by US or Russia in any conflict?
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Massive exercises of Army PVO.
- 3500 man
- 800 pieces of equipment
- S-300V/BUK-M1/BUK-M2/TOR/OSA/Strela-10/Tunguska/Šilka
- exercise will last until the 30.09.2013 (Im I reading this right)
Ack CVO destroy the "enemy" with missiles
- 3500 man
- 800 pieces of equipment
- S-300V/BUK-M1/BUK-M2/TOR/OSA/Strela-10/Tunguska/Šilka
- exercise will last until the 30.09.2013 (Im I reading this right)
Ack CVO destroy the "enemy" with missiles
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Russian army responds to problems seen in drills
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Looks like Fara-1 a portable group target locating and weapon aiming radar.
Used to cover open ground in conditions of zero visibility.
Very simply you mount the system on a tree or a building or on a HMG or grenade launcher mount and it scans for moving targets.
When a moving target is detected there is an audio signal played through the operators headphones that will distinguish whether the target is a man, a group of men, or a vehicle. Sometimes they are fitted with a night vision device to further investigate the target but most of the time... in a conflict... they will simply open fire on the threat.
They can be used to cover potential lines of attack or even a minefield surrounding a base.
Very simply if the enemy is trying to clear the minefield in the dark this system will spot them and allow the guard to open fire even in whiteout conditions.
Friendly forces will have seen the signs indicating the minefield and would not approach from that direction.
It can also be used to monitor the ground in front of enemy positions to warn of a sneak attack.
Using it as a detection system is one thing... but it also accurately gives the gunner the range to the targets so the HMG fire and automatic grenade launcher fire can be quite accurate and effective and the total darkness will likely lead to panic for the incoming threat who had assumed they were safe under cover of darkness and smoke or whatever.
Used to cover open ground in conditions of zero visibility.
Very simply you mount the system on a tree or a building or on a HMG or grenade launcher mount and it scans for moving targets.
When a moving target is detected there is an audio signal played through the operators headphones that will distinguish whether the target is a man, a group of men, or a vehicle. Sometimes they are fitted with a night vision device to further investigate the target but most of the time... in a conflict... they will simply open fire on the threat.
They can be used to cover potential lines of attack or even a minefield surrounding a base.
Very simply if the enemy is trying to clear the minefield in the dark this system will spot them and allow the guard to open fire even in whiteout conditions.
Friendly forces will have seen the signs indicating the minefield and would not approach from that direction.
It can also be used to monitor the ground in front of enemy positions to warn of a sneak attack.
Using it as a detection system is one thing... but it also accurately gives the gunner the range to the targets so the HMG fire and automatic grenade launcher fire can be quite accurate and effective and the total darkness will likely lead to panic for the incoming threat who had assumed they were safe under cover of darkness and smoke or whatever.
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TR1 - as a Russian speaker could you please elaborate Korotchenko post
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Its about results of recent exercises
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Its about results of recent exercises
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Sure, let's see the intersting stuff:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6711/167229822.54/0_c8a4c_ce54b8e4_XXL.jpg
Forces involved in the check, groups, units, etc.
Personnel= 160,000
Helicopters and planes = 130
Ships= 70
Armored vehicles and automotive equipment= 12,000
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9542/167229822.54/0_c8a4d_7f9ab114_XXL.jpg
Task of relocating forces:
30 VTA planes used
167 flights
8.5 thousand personnel flown in
415 units of equipment
700 tons of supplies
562 railway cars
482 units of equipment
320 tons of supplies
7 barges used to transport the 64th OMSBR.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9364/167229822.54/0_c8a50_25c7e1b8_XXL.jpg
Long Range aviation - 12 planes, 11 sorties.
Fighter aviation - 24 planes, 36 sorties
Bomber aviation - 18 planes, 28 sorties
Shturmoviki - 14 planes, 26 sorties
Transport aviation - 30 planes, 167 sorties
Army Aviation - 32 helicopters, 72 sorties
UAVs - 8 airframes, 22 sorties
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6711/167229822.54/0_c8a4c_ce54b8e4_XXL.jpg
Forces involved in the check, groups, units, etc.
Personnel= 160,000
Helicopters and planes = 130
Ships= 70
Armored vehicles and automotive equipment= 12,000
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9542/167229822.54/0_c8a4d_7f9ab114_XXL.jpg
Task of relocating forces:
30 VTA planes used
167 flights
8.5 thousand personnel flown in
415 units of equipment
700 tons of supplies
562 railway cars
482 units of equipment
320 tons of supplies
7 barges used to transport the 64th OMSBR.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9364/167229822.54/0_c8a50_25c7e1b8_XXL.jpg
Long Range aviation - 12 planes, 11 sorties.
Fighter aviation - 24 planes, 36 sorties
Bomber aviation - 18 planes, 28 sorties
Shturmoviki - 14 planes, 26 sorties
Transport aviation - 30 planes, 167 sorties
Army Aviation - 32 helicopters, 72 sorties
UAVs - 8 airframes, 22 sorties
Hachimoto- Posts : 142
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anyone know what kind of mission Su-34 performed in this exercise?
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ground forces
Wow that turret belongs to what westerners originally called the T-72M2 (super Dolly Parton) in the early 90s. It was thought to be the most heavily armoured Soviet turret system in existence,how in err we were. I built 5 or 6 1/35th scale Dragon model kits of this tank and bought into the maskirovka whole heartedly.
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TR1- Posts : 5435
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Well the T-72B did have the thicker armor than any T-64 variant, and was even thicker (slightly) than T-80B.
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New mineclearing vehicle:
TR1- Posts : 5435
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Wow nice find Flanky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=inadA-Lx9mE
If anyone wants some comedy my favorite 8-8-8 related video, the BMPs crushing Georgian Police blockade being a close second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=inadA-Lx9mE
If anyone wants some comedy my favorite 8-8-8 related video, the BMPs crushing Georgian Police blockade being a close second.
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TR1 wrote:Wow nice find Flanky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=inadA-Lx9mE
Is this for real?
Still an open contest between this and the Saakashvilli cowering from imaginary missile incident though. I was giggling about that one for days.
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Yeah Georgian news TV played this as an "intercepted transmission" LOL
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