Kurganets & Boomerang Discussions Thread #1

GarryB wrote:I suspect this is the APC non penetrating turret that allows a couple of extra troops to be seated under it.

Any IFV version will likely have a 57mm gun which will require a significant hull penetration to the floor to store a useful amount of ammo that would likely reduce the troop capacity by a significant amount.

KomissarBojanchev wrote:I will never understand why they chose the obsolete front engine placement over the truly excellent and revolutionary BMP-3 configuration.

Better load bearing making it possible to adding more armor and weaponry, and maybe an ammo bustle.with less weight gain.

Better driving balance

Better gun depression for a much lower profile(this fat CG monstrosity would be almost as big as M2 Crapley)
Better amphibious mobility

Much cooler looking

Only iffy disadvantage is supposed less efficient troop placement

GarryB wrote:the high profile turret allows better gun elevation and depression... the former critical for engaging enemy aircraft and the latter for firing from reverse slopes and dug in positions... in terms of being a target it is irrelevant as there are no crew members inside it to kill and no ammo to set fire to so a penetration will destroy whatever it travels through but it wont damage much else.

to me these photos look like the Armata vehicles, which will not be amphibious... the hulls on these models just look too big to be kurganets.

With the lighter amphibious vehicles I am sure spaced armour will allow amphibious capability though it will also make them look big and bulky too.

chicken wrote:Wasn't the crew bubble supposed to be 3 persons side by side for Armata?

GarryB wrote:

Notice the two Small turrets on the hull near the front... perhaps DIRCMs with sensors further forward that look like cameras and those small lights they use, though they could be for the IFF signalling system... or just sensors to detect if the tank is being marked.

Interesting.

Note no obvious Nakidka camo fitted...

magnumcromagnon wrote:

chicken wrote:Wasn't the crew bubble supposed to be 3 persons side by side for Armata?

The armored capsule? Yes, that is a technical requirement for Armata.

akd wrote:

GarryB wrote:

Notice the two Small turrets on the hull near the front... perhaps DIRCMs with sensors further forward that look like cameras and those small lights they use, though they could be for the IFF signalling system... or just sensors to detect if the tank is being marked.

Interesting.

Note no obvious Nakidka camo fitted...

Those are radar modules for the Arena-E the artist has depicted on the hull.

ult wrote:

George1 wrote:Russia Rolls Out All-New Armored Vehicle

A photo of the new Russian tracked armored vehicle Kurganets-25, made during Monday’s rehearsal of the upcoming May 9 Victory Day parade on Red Square, is now available on the Web.

The tryout in Alabino, just outside Moscow, featured a group of partially camouflaged armored vehicles rolling past. The Kurganets-25 provides a high degree of commonality with the new T-14 Armata heavy battle tank, whose photo earlier appeared online, Military-informant.com reported.

The Kurganets-25 will evolve into various models, gradually replacing BMP and BMD and MT-LB and other types of tracked armored platforms. It will have modular armor that can be upgraded for specific threats, a 2A42 30 mm cannon, and four Kornet-EM anti-tank guided missile launchers.

The Kurganets-25 is fully amphibious, propelled in the water by two water-jets at the rear of the hull.

The vehicle uses a new technology for amphibious operation which increases the speed in the water up to 10 km/h.

The vehicle will be equipped with automatic fire control system which is able to automatically select targets.

Standard equipment of the Kurganets-25 could include a thermal imager, eye-safe laser rangefinder, GPS / inertial navigation system and computerized fire control system.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150324/1019920141.html#ixzz3VIIwxRhr

Dima wrote:Kurganets-25 is truly impressive. Loving it. Hope with the covers off it will look like the one below.
http://gurkhan.blogspot.ru/2015/03/blog-post_17.html