Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

calripson wrote:When is the planned commissioning into the BSF of the Admiral Grigorovich and Admiral Essen ?

Isos wrote:What is the average detection range of a frigate's radar like Grigorovitch's one vs a frigate, corvette and destroyer ?

KALININGRAD, February 1 - RIA Novosti. Frigate "Admiral Essen" Project 11356, built on the Baltic Shipyard (Shipyard) "Yantar" in Kaliningrad commissioned by the Russian Navy, started the state tests in the Baltic Sea, the press service of the company.

"Currently, commissioning team of the plant and the crew preparing for the first sail which will take place this week. The state tests will last about a month, they will pass on the sea ranges of the Baltic Fleet. The transfer of the ship of the Russian Navy is scheduled for April 2016," - he said in the message.

George1 wrote:Frigate "Admiral Essen" began public testing

KALININGRAD, February 1 - RIA Novosti. Frigate "Admiral Essen" Project 11356, built on the Baltic Shipyard (Shipyard) "Yantar" in Kaliningrad commissioned by the Russian Navy, started the state tests in the Baltic Sea, the press service of the company.

"Currently, commissioning team of the plant and the crew preparing for the first sail which will take place this week. The state tests will last about a month, they will pass on the sea ranges of the Baltic Fleet. The transfer of the ship of the Russian Navy is scheduled for April 2016," - he said in the message.

George1 wrote:Frigate "Admiral Grigorovich" will be given to the Russian Navy on March 10

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zardof wrote:According to Flot "amiral Grigorovitch" fregate will be commission on 10 of march... but also "amiral Essen" and "Admiral Makarov" will be also commission this year. With 3 project 11356 plus the 3 new Pr21631 " Zeliony Dol", "Serpukhov", "Vishny Volochek; 1 project 22160 "V. Bykov" and 5 to 6 Kilo. 2016 will see a real significant change in Black sea fleet.  
Erdogan will cry so mutch !!!!

http://flot.com/2016/%D0%AF%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C9/

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

zardof wrote:According to Flot "amiral Grigorovitch" fregate will be commission on 10 of march... but also "amiral Essen" and "Admiral Makarov" will be also commission this year. With 3 project 11356 plus the 3 new Pr21631 " Zeliony Dol", "Serpukhov", "Vishny Volochek; 1 project 22160 "V. Bykov" and 5 to 6 Kilo. 2016 will see a real significant change in Black sea fleet.  
Erdogan will cry so mutch !!!!

http://flot.com/2016/%D0%AF%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C9/

With 16 frigates/8 corvettes/13 subs and 21 missile boats unlikely unfortunately

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_ships_of_the_Turkish_Naval_Forces

Isos wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

zardof wrote:According to Flot "amiral Grigorovitch" fregate will be commission on 10 of march... but also "amiral Essen" and "Admiral Makarov" will be also commission this year. With 3 project 11356 plus the 3 new Pr21631 " Zeliony Dol", "Serpukhov", "Vishny Volochek; 1 project 22160 "V. Bykov" and 5 to 6 Kilo. 2016 will see a real significant change in Black sea fleet.  
Erdogan will cry so mutch !!!!

http://flot.com/2016/%D0%AF%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C9/

With 16 frigates/8 corvettes/13 subs and 21 missile boats unlikely unfortunately

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_ships_of_the_Turkish_Naval_Forces

With the Su-30/34 equiped with EW and Brahmos-NG(??), yes he will cry !!!

TheArmenian wrote:Admiral Butakov, 4th unit of the class has been launched today.
As far as I know, it has been launched without the poweplant being installed.
It will get the machinery later on, probably 2017 or 2018.

George1 wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:Admiral Butakov, 4th unit of the class has been launched today.
As far as I know, it has been launched without the poweplant being installed.
It will get the machinery later on, probably 2017 or 2018.

So the project didn't discontinued after 3rd ship?

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

George1 wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:Admiral Butakov, 4th unit of the class has been launched today.
As far as I know, it has been launched without the poweplant being installed.
It will get the machinery later on, probably 2017 or 2018.

So the project didn't discontinued after 3rd ship?

Russian power plants were to be ready in 2017/2018 within import replacement programme.

Construction of the six patrol ships of the modified project 11356 (sometimes referred to as the project 11356R or 11357) maintained Shipyard "Yantar" in Kaliningrad on two contracts for three ships, each signed with the Russian Ministry of Defense - the contract number 704/27/2 / PMC / SC / 1176 -10 of 28 October 2010 (the first three) and contract number W / 1/1/0553 / GK-11-DGOZ of 13 September 2011 (the second trio). The cost of each contract is 40 billion rubles. All six ships initially planned to replenish the Black Sea Fleet.

Under the first contract to date, we completed the construction of patrol ships "Admiral Grigorovich" (serial number 01357, the State completed the test, the signing of the act of reception and transmission of the Navy is scheduled for March 10-11, 2016) and "Admiral Essen" (serial number 01358 is on State test phase since January 30, 2016). A third of the same type frigate "Admiral Makarov" (serial number 01359) Launched September 3, 2015, is located in the Shipyard "Yantar" in the completion.

Head frigate under the second contract "Admiral Butakov" (serial number 01360) was laid on the Shipyard "Yantar" July 12, 2013, and launched today. November 15, 2013 was laid down as the next patrol ship "Admiral Istomin" (serial number 01361). Bookmark last scheduled six ships, "Admiral Kornilov" (serial number 01362) to date have not produced, although the groundwork was prepared for him.

Refusal of advertising descent "Admiral Butakova" looks natural, because the fate of the second trio of modified frigates of Project 11356 for the Russian fleet is now under question, because of lack for them of the main gas turbine power plants production Nikolaev State Enterprise "Zorya" - "Mashproekt" undelivered for these vehicles due to the events in Ukraine. Because of this, completion of two frigates laid second three, most likely, it will be suspended after the descent of the water (and the descent itself is required mainly for the release of stocks of the plant).

Recall that, according to a press release Nicholas State Enterprise "Zorya" February 25, 2016 - "Mashproekt", is a company in October 2012 signed with Shipyard "Yantar" contract to supply three sets of power generating units M7N for the second three Russian frigates modified project 11356 According to this contract, the Nikolaev enterprise must put on the "Amber" the first unit in December 2014, and the second and third - in October-December 2015.

In June 2014 the order of the State Service of Export Control of Ukraine suspended the export licenses of military goods to the Russian Federation. In connection with this work commissioned for the "Amber" at the Research and Production Complex "Zorya" - "Mashproekt" were discontinued. Gas turbine DS-71 and DT-59 M7N first unit (designed for frigate "Admiral Butakov") at the time were made Nikolaev now, but bench tests conducted were gone. All equipment was suspended and sent into the production storage.

PapaDragon wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

George1 wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:Admiral Butakov, 4th unit of the class has been launched today.
As far as I know, it has been launched without the poweplant being installed.
It will get the machinery later on, probably 2017 or 2018.

So the project didn't discontinued after 3rd ship?

Russian power plants were to be ready in 2017/2018 within import replacement programme.

Engines aside (it will be handled as you said) that shipyard got really good at building these frigates. Would it be possible to order more of them after 6th ship?

I know it is not latest and the greatest but it still gets the job done, it can be built in numbers and on time and is only slightly more expensive than 20380 Steregushchy corvette which are loaded with issues. They might keep up with Grigorevich frigate for a while longer while they sort out next corvette class.

They also have decent upgrade potential later down the road.