Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

They will most likely be paid by the US aid money given to Iraq, same with the hellfire missiles.


MI-35

Iraq seem to be getting more help Russian than USA, good see the TOS system being exported, great system for dealing with terrorist scum in built up areas. They seem to be ordering the right equipment to deal with the situation Msta and BM-21   
I Wonder if some SU-24's might be on the next order along with some BTR 82A. Selling Su-24's to Iraq would be ideal for Russia as they have started replacing then with SU-34 good way to off load them and make some cash better than storing them like they normally do with most of their equipment. Also I think some BMPT (terminator) and some shoulder launched RPO-M would also be ideal for Iraq's situation.

It was mentioned earlier that Iraq uses the american 155mm artillery shells, you might find if the americans continue to slow in selling them equipment they could well end up ditching american equipment and start using Russia as its main defence supplier. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case in the next few years.

Apart from ordering more MI-28's and MI-35's, has Iraq placed anymore orders with Russia for anything else?

d_taddei2 wrote:

Apart from ordering more MI-28's and MI-35's, has Iraq placed anymore orders with Russia for anything else?

19 MI-28
24 MI-35
40-50 Pantsir S1
TOS-1
800 KORNET-E
IGLA manpads
16.000 sniper rifles T5000 & OSV 96
T-90
BMP-3
SU-25

10 2nd hand SU-27 under negotiation along with other small arms/ammo

iraqidabab wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:

Apart from ordering more MI-28's and MI-35's, has Iraq placed anymore orders with Russia for anything else?

19 MI-28
24 MI-35
40-50 Pantsir S1
TOS-1
800 KORNET-E
IGLA manpads
16.000 sniper rifles T5000 & OSV 96
T-90
BMP-3
SU-25

10 2nd hand SU-27 under negotiation along with other small arms/ammo

I think 100 TOS-1 are the best way to send ISIL to the hell!!

I think that would kill the entire population, TOS-1 is powerful but using it on cities will result in mainly civillian death, this war is not for heavy artillery but infantry and (light) COIN weaponry, 2 Iraqi F16's and pilots are ready the question is when the US will deliver them


I really think Iraq should order a squadron (18-24 aircraft ) of SU-34's, assume they start going into service 3 years from now it will offer great precision ground attack capabilities unlike the SU-25 which mainly drops unguided ordnance.

It appears Iraq might have ordered an additional lot of Mi-171 helos from Ulan-Ude (very logic imo considering combat loses and the need for them):
http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/82013.html

On another note, few more images from the delivery of TOS-1A few weeks back...
http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2124

...and Su-25 in action (seen by the targets!):
http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2062&start=225

Thanks for those links! That SU-25 sure looks good when doing its job...

Anyway, the TOS (might) be overkill, at least if ISIS is anything like the Taliban etc. (As in they don't reveal themselves, and use guerrilla tactics.) However, if ISIS doesn't do that, TOS should give them a kick in their butt.)

Iraqi Mi-28NEs ready for shipping:

First time i notice that little extra devise on the right engine. Not all Mi-28 have this device. What you think it is?

And it is always on the right side and not a single on the left at least not mounted.

3 MI-28 soon delivered to Iraq

I think i've noticed something that is little bit odd to me regarding Mi-28 which is the case for every Mi-28 except the Mi-28NE for Iraq.



Some russian Mi-28 don't have this extented rod for those little hook device/sensors on the right engine, but they have always the sensor/hook.

On the Iraqi Mi-28NE there is no rod near the cockpit but the rod with those hooky sensors at the right engine is there.

What you think that is?

Really want to know.

Russia delivered D-20 artillery

Of all the available pieces, they bought heavy-ass D-20?

Cheap but effective even tho i would spend my money on something like gwozdika or some nonas.

TR1 wrote:Of all the available pieces, they bought heavy-ass D-20?

Well, it is still capable. - The heavy weight barrel should be very tough and resistant to the Iraqi sun.

TR1 wrote:Of all the available pieces, they bought heavy-ass D-20?

These are used ones from reserves depots.
-Readily available (Iraqis need them badly)
-Immediately usable (Iraqi army soldiers are used to them)
-Inexpensive

To bad Iraqi bought the Mi-28NE's without MAW sensors, they should have ordered the full spectrum TWICMS instead of just LWR and RWR, not much help they will get from those sensors against MANPADS.

Werewolf wrote:To bad Iraqi bought the Mi-28NE's without MAW sensors, they should have ordered the full spectrum TWICMS instead of just LWR and RWR, not much help they will get from those sensors against MANPADS.

Iraqi ministry of defense often spares money on this way, like the commander's sight not being added for the Abrams tank and probably no SHTORA & Arena for the T90.
Iraq's defense budget is really low for a country in war, it's around 6% whilst Saudi Arabia is going to increase theirs with 20% bringing it to 35.4%, Iraq should definitely increase it to at least 15%.

http://www.janes.com/article/39817/saudi-arabia-announces-20-defence-budget-increase

Well in case of attack helicopters that cost quite a huge amount of money and not buying something essential like MAWS which are the only sensor to warn crew from incoming SAMs and MANPADS that do not expose their existence by any active homing.

I think that is rather short sighted especially in Iraqis case, for russia being short sighted for majority of T-90s not having Arena i can understand they don't have war so far.

Are you sure it doesn't have missile warning, they might have used another component instead of the ones on the Russian aircraft.

Any military helicopter not fitted with missile lock warning to have the pilot know he needs to use flares is strange.

iraqidabab wrote:Are you sure it doesn't have missile warning, they might have used another component instead of the ones on the Russian aircraft.

Any military helicopter not fitted with missile lock warning to have the pilot know he needs to use flares is strange.

That is the full spectrum sensoric suite for Mi-28Ns, even tho only russian squadrons that have the full TWICMS are few and the big majority will recieve the MAWS and most probably the full Ka-52 DIRCM TWICMS next year or 2016.



Like it seems the Iraqi helicopter crews will have to rely on intel from their comerades about any enemy with MANPADS and will have to enter combat zones while already having taken use of flare dispencing in sequences like Mi-24 pilots did back in Afghanistan and Chechnya, but at least they are automated and don't need to press the button each time.

Ye but if the MI-35's are doing fine I assume this will as well, in the future they can always order the rotor radar and those extra upgrades.

Well the Mi-35M have standard active pulse doppler radar MAWS, not perfect since they cover only 90° to each side, at least that is what some people said GarryB included, even tho the little pulse doppler radars beneath the little dome of those MAWS looked that they could cover about 180° maybe just 160°.