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Israeli Airstrikes in Syria
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nemrod- Posts : 839
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Zivo wrote:In 2007, Israel simply circumnavigated Syrian air defense hotspots. No planes were shot down, because no planes were in range of AD assets.
The recent attack most likely employed long range munitions launched from OUTSIDE syrian airspace.
Do you mean this kind of raid is efficient ?
I agree with you, of course Syria is caught between Saudi Arabia, Israel, and Turkey. US politics -not US Army- wished to go to war. The worst warmongers are always the most corwards, behind desks.Zivo wrote:
.... there was nothing the Syrian army could do that wouldn't have been diplomatic suicide. Especially considering NATO will try or say almost anything to intervene to help the collapsing rebel front.
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"Russian Tech" hasn't failed to protect Syria.
I also agree with you, I tried to explain the relative success of Israeli raids by the facts that a radar was destroyed 7 months ago, paving the way to Israel attacks. As Syria had not radar to detect intrusive aircrafts, Air defence became blind, then it is hard to guess from where the threats will come. If it come.
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Do you mean this kind of raid is efficient ?
How would you prevent it? Shoot down an Israeli aircraft in Lebanese airspace?
The only reason these raids are "efficient" is because Israel's diplomacy is nil and the international community has failed to stop it. The Syrian government is walking on egg shells right now, they last thing they need are the terrorists to have their own air force.
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The information coming out is very less.We dont know what exactly Russia is sending to
Syria.
Russia sends advanced missiles syria
U.S criticize Russia missile supply
Syria.
Russia sends advanced missiles syria
U.S criticize Russia missile supply
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Zivo wrote:Do you mean this kind of raid is efficient ?
How would you prevent it? Shoot down an Israeli aircraft in Lebanese airspace?
Why else do you think Israel was blowing up Syrian Buk-M2Es? The whole "but they were gonna give them to Hezbollah" is a complete pack of nonsense. Just because a system can exploit a high degree of automation doesn't mean it can be crewed by untrained people from the streetcorner. Those things were going to the border where there are a ton of Kub batteries, and then they might have planned to sneak them across and make a really surprising SAM trap. Either way putting them along the border would've given them a significant boost in capability in the area, and increased their reach into Lebanese and Israeli airspace with systems that are actually credible threats.
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Why else do you think Israel was blowing up Syrian Buk-M2Es?
We don't know what Israel actually hit.
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Zivo wrote:Why else do you think Israel was blowing up Syrian Buk-M2Es?
We don't know what Israel actually hit.
Absolutely true. I'm just going with what they said they were blowing up and why.
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- Post n°33
Syria' russian's S-300 downed their first F-16I waiting other...
nemrod Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:33 pm
When I heard few days ago that an israeli F-16I damaged on the sea, and their crew was safe...humm, I felt a very well known smell, odor of propagada..
In this crisis era, it is strange the suddenly unknown numbers of western accidents: turkish F-4 Phantom II, turkish F-16, and now at least one israeli F-16.
US won't dare to attack Syria presently.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/
In this crisis era, it is strange the suddenly unknown numbers of western accidents: turkish F-4 Phantom II, turkish F-16, and now at least one israeli F-16.
US won't dare to attack Syria presently.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/
Veteran.com wrote:
When Israel next calls the Pentagon, yarmulke in hand, egg on their face, their tone will be more restrained.
By Mike Chester for the online news magazine Veterans Today
Israel announced on July 8 that one of their F-16s suffered a mechanical failure off the coast of Gaza. A military spokesman for the IAF said both pilots were recovered. The plane is said to have crashed into the Mediterranean Sea.
Almost no part of this story is true, Israel did lose an F-16. They are unable to hide the fact that one of their first line aircraft is no longer in “inventory.”
Did Israel, as multiple reports now indicate, really lose an F-16 and its crew of two to a Syrian S-300 missile 48 hours before the claimed incident and over 400 miles from the claimed location?
On May 4, 2013, the Syrian Navy sunk an Israeli Dolphin submarine. Israel, unwilling to accept the public humiliation of such a loss: a disaster of such a proportion to its citizens has been repainting hull numbers and shuffling crew rosters on its remaining submarines for two months.
Lost aircraft, especially during an offensive operation, are routinely never disclosed to the public for a variety of reason. Informed sources have disclosed that the F-16 training accident reported off the coast of Gaza was cover for their plane lost in the Syrian warehouse attack which is claimed was targeted as an S-300 component part base.
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Well, another speculation which might be true and might not be true, still. ....
13.07.13 ISRAEL LAUNCHED A MISSILE STRIKE ON A WAREHOUSE "YAKHONT" IN SYRIA
and as a consequence as @nemrod said
Israeli F16 crashes into sea
13.07.13 ISRAEL LAUNCHED A MISSILE STRIKE ON A WAREHOUSE "YAKHONT" IN SYRIA
and as a consequence as @nemrod said
Israeli F16 crashes into sea
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On May 4, 2013, the Syrian Navy sunk an Israeli Dolphin submarine.
If the Israeli Navy lost a submarine.. then it is a slap on the face of NATO naval hardware.
NATO will not dare not attack Syria from the sea.
Israel lost a submarine .. mannn there is just one word for that..
AWESOME ..! annd nothing else..
This is unprecedented in Israel -Syria wars ..
About the f-16I incident I think it is the 2nd or 3rd Israeli jet to be shot down..
and 2nd jet to be drowned in sea.. what a surprise.. lot of jets falling in sea..
none on the ground..
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Video about Yakhont attack
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Israeli- German submarine launched a missile reponsible for the Syria Naval base attack.
It is becoming too much.. Israeli knew that pantsyir are covering the naval depots so they
did not sent jets but a sub..
Israel getting desperate
This submarine lauched missile are duds just like any other french -german cruise missile.
The rebels heard a sing le exlosion , so hence nothing much.
I dont think any damage could have done.
It is becoming too much.. Israeli knew that pantsyir are covering the naval depots so they
did not sent jets but a sub..
According to the report, the Israeli fleet of German-built submarines launched a cruise missile at the weapons cache
after which Syrian rebels reportedly attested to hearing early-morning explosions at a Syrian port-side naval barracks.
On Friday, anonymous US officials told CNN that Israel had carried out an air strike on the Syrian city.
Three unnamed US officials told CNN the IAF had targeted Russian-made Yakhont anti-ship missiles tha
Israel getting desperate
This submarine lauched missile are duds just like any other french -german cruise missile.
The rebels heard a sing le exlosion , so hence nothing much.
I dont think any damage could have done.
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gaurav wrote:Israeli- German submarine launched a missile reponsible for the Syria Naval base attack.
It is becoming too much.. Israeli knew that pantsyir are covering the naval depots so they
did not sent jets but a sub..
According to the report, the Israeli fleet of German-built submarines launched a cruise missile at the weapons cache
after which Syrian rebels reportedly attested to hearing early-morning explosions at a Syrian port-side naval barracks.
On Friday, anonymous US officials told CNN that Israel had carried out an air strike on the Syrian city.
Three unnamed US officials told CNN the IAF had targeted Russian-made Yakhont anti-ship missiles tha
Israel getting desperate
If the pantsirs were there i doubt they would use cruise missiles, perhaps torpedoes depending where the missiles where??
This submarine lauched missile are duds just like any other french -german cruise missile.
The rebels heard a sing le exlosion , so hence nothing much.
I dont think any damage could have done.
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If the pantsirs were there i doubt they would use cruise missiles, perhaps torpedoes depending where the missile were??gaurav wrote:Israeli- German submarine launched a missile reponsible for the Syria Naval base attack.
It is becoming too much.. Israeli knew that pantsyir are covering the naval depots so they
did not sent jets but a sub..
According to the report, the Israeli fleet of German-built submarines launched a cruise missile at the weapons cache
after which Syrian rebels reportedly attested to hearing early-morning explosions at a Syrian port-side naval barracks.
On Friday, anonymous US officials told CNN that Israel had carried out an air strike on the Syrian city.
Three unnamed US officials told CNN the IAF had targeted Russian-made Yakhont anti-ship missiles tha
Israel getting desperate
This submarine lauched missile are duds just like any other french -german cruise missile.
The rebels heard a sing le exlosion , so hence nothing much.
I dont think any damage could have done.
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If the pantsirs were there i doubt they would use cruise missiles, perhaps torpedoes depending where the missile were??
Well dont know what really happened , it is another of the usual cases, when Israeli military cant do anything..
except provoking.. nothing else..
Suddenly Israel acquired Iranian Hormuz strait terror tactics..
.. The tactics which Iran would have used in 2000.. Israel is usingagainst Syria in 2013..ha ha ha..I mean firing missiles in the night quietly from banana boats.. at sea..
what the heck..
Pantsyir batteires or even stand alone systems are getting an unmatched and unbeatable advertisement all over the world..
The whole Israeli military hardware is now engaged in taking care of Pantsyir deployed positions ..
Early reports conflict: Some say the attack was carried out by foreign aircraft, while others say it was by missiles fired from boats.
Al-Qaida was responsible for the massive arms depot explosion in Latakia over the weekend, a Syrian official said on Sunday.
Syria denied Israel’s role in the incident after Arab media outlets reported conflicting stories on the cause of the blast.
“The attack in Latakia was not carried out from the air or the sea, but by a terrorist group aligned with al-Qaida,”
a senior Syrian official told Syrian state media. “The group fired missiles of European design that caused large fires in the bases.”
Some Arab outlets reported that foreign aircraft had bombed the site and others that it was destroyed by missiles
fired from boats. The reports estimated that 10 to 20 Syrian soldiers were killed in the strike.
While mystery just keeps going on..
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It seems those attack on Syria warehouses resulted with one F-16 less in the inventory with zero gains.
If you check the satellite photo of before and after you can see that the all outside walls are still in place and standing with only one blacken small part of the
warehouse where missile struck resulting collappsing of the roof.
If the warehouse was full of Yakhonts (50 missiles) and S-300 as some all western newspapers suggested there would be no standing outside walls and the whole
place would be one giant crater.
here is an interesting link about the subject - bias yes but puts a different perspective
LINK
If you check the satellite photo of before and after you can see that the all outside walls are still in place and standing with only one blacken small part of the
warehouse where missile struck resulting collappsing of the roof.
If the warehouse was full of Yakhonts (50 missiles) and S-300 as some all western newspapers suggested there would be no standing outside walls and the whole
place would be one giant crater.
here is an interesting link about the subject - bias yes but puts a different perspective
LINK
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Nope, definitely not a torpedo.Viktor wrote:It seems those attack on Syria warehouses resulted with one F-16 less in the inventory with zero gains.
If you check the satellite photo of before and after you can see that the all outside walls are still in place and standing with only one blacken small part of the
warehouse where missile struck resulting collapsing of the roof.
If the warehouse was full of Yakhonts (50 missiles) and S-300 as some all western newspapers suggested there would be no standing outside walls and the whole
place would be one giant crater.
here is an interesting link about the subject - bias yes but puts a different perspective
LINK
Damage looks minimal, i doubt there were more than ten missiles in that warehouse, and S-300... really?
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Israel may have used Turkish Airbases in attack.
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Hezbollah Members Allegedly Killed During Israel's Strike in Golan Heights
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Assad Says Israeli Airstrikes Weaken Syrian Army, Back Local Rebel Groups
Syrian president Bashar Assad says Israel supports rebel groups in Syria by conducting airstrikes in places, where the Syrian army makes advances.
MOSCOW, January 26 (Sputnik) — Israel is providing support to rebel groups operating inside Syria by conducting airstrikes in places where the Syrian army is making advances, Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an exclusive interview with Foreign Affairs published on Monday.
"They [the Israelis] are supporting the rebels in Syria. It’s very clear. Because whenever we make advances in some place, they [the Israelis] make an attack in order to undermine the army," Assad said. "That’s why some in Syria joke: “How can you say that al Qaeda doesn’t have an air force? They have the Israeli air force.”
The comments come a week after a missile attack, presumed to have been carried out by Israel, in the region of Quneitra in the Syrian Golan Heights bordering Lebanon.
The attack reportedly claimed the lives of six members of the Lebanese resistance movement Hezbollah. A senior commander from Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) was the seventh victim, according to Press TV.
However, Israel has not confirmed its involvement in the incident.
The Lebanon-based Hezbollah has been allegedly helping the Syrian government fight the Islamic State and radical Sunni militants.
Hezbollah is a Lebanese Shiite Islamist political party and militant group established in 1985. It is considered a terrorist organization by Israel and a number of Western countries.
Syrian president Bashar Assad says Israel supports rebel groups in Syria by conducting airstrikes in places, where the Syrian army makes advances.
MOSCOW, January 26 (Sputnik) — Israel is providing support to rebel groups operating inside Syria by conducting airstrikes in places where the Syrian army is making advances, Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an exclusive interview with Foreign Affairs published on Monday.
"They [the Israelis] are supporting the rebels in Syria. It’s very clear. Because whenever we make advances in some place, they [the Israelis] make an attack in order to undermine the army," Assad said. "That’s why some in Syria joke: “How can you say that al Qaeda doesn’t have an air force? They have the Israeli air force.”
The comments come a week after a missile attack, presumed to have been carried out by Israel, in the region of Quneitra in the Syrian Golan Heights bordering Lebanon.
The attack reportedly claimed the lives of six members of the Lebanese resistance movement Hezbollah. A senior commander from Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) was the seventh victim, according to Press TV.
However, Israel has not confirmed its involvement in the incident.
The Lebanon-based Hezbollah has been allegedly helping the Syrian government fight the Islamic State and radical Sunni militants.
Hezbollah is a Lebanese Shiite Islamist political party and militant group established in 1985. It is considered a terrorist organization by Israel and a number of Western countries.
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Israel Conducts Airstrikes at Syrian Artillery Near Damascus - Source
why Israel attacks Syrian army which fights against ISIL?
why Israel attacks Syrian army which fights against ISIL?
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George1 wrote:Israel Conducts Airstrikes at Syrian Artillery Near Damascus - Source
why Israel attacks Syrian army which fights against ISIL?
This doesnt make sense whatsoever, did they belive that artillery posed some kind of a threat to IDF O.o? I am doing my best to understand this action but i am failing.
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It is difficult to come to terms with it but the only logical answer is that the IAF are flying CAS for anti Syrian Government formations in the South whilst Turkey performs the same function, against the Kurds in the North. At the same time US/NATO/Etc are running what, given their lack of effectiveness, can only be described as token or PR attacks on IS in both Syria and Iraq e.g the supply lines in and oil trucks out to/from Turkey seem to lead a charmed life.Militarov wrote:George1 wrote:Israel Conducts Airstrikes at Syrian Artillery Near Damascus - Source
why Israel attacks Syrian army which fights against ISIL?
This doesnt make sense whatsoever, did they belive that artillery posed some kind of a threat to IDF O.o? I am doing my best to understand this action but i am failing.
I am very cynical about the whole thing. The sudden huge boost in migrants (from the TV pictures, very few look how real refugees should look) from Turkey, at exactly the same time as Russia steps up supplies (that should impact IS), followed by statements in the UK/France/US etc etc that they are going to air attack IS in Syria (probably just like the Turks said they would but hit others instead). These are too closely linked to be co-incidences.
This stuff on the coast is important, especially if land based SAMs get properly deployed, spreading East. I assume that the coastal areas are protected by the ship SAMs in harbour and nearby. The West may not like it but Syria has a sovereign Government in place that could, if it could enforce it, declare its territory as a no fly zone, even asking Russia and Iran to help enforce it.
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Militarov wrote:George1 wrote:Israel Conducts Airstrikes at Syrian Artillery Near Damascus - Source
why Israel attacks Syrian army which fights against ISIL?
This doesnt make sense whatsoever, did they belive that artillery posed some kind of a threat to IDF O.o? I am doing my best to understand this action but i am failing.
Of course it makes sense, jesus christ, you guys act like you have alzheimer. The fucking US and Israel created ISIS/FSA,Al-CIAda to overthrow unwanted governments, why the fuck would this same piece of shit hegemony regimes want Assad to destroy their little fanatic proxy soldiers? They certainly still want Assad and entire Syria to be gone, Israel wants to be regional power and later to sustain world domination. ISIS never even attempted going on Israeli soil despite being "Islamic fundamentalists" that oppose anything anti islamic/infidels, so why going against soley independent muslim populated countries, but never attempt to kill infidels?
They are not islamic fundamentalists, not the decision makers, they are paid mercenaries under false flag to give the muricans and sraelits a white vest in public while being still praised and can glorify their worthless assholes as being the solution for a problem they are themselfs.
Treat your alzheimer guys, gets annoying...
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Werewolf wrote:Militarov wrote:George1 wrote:Israel Conducts Airstrikes at Syrian Artillery Near Damascus - Source
why Israel attacks Syrian army which fights against ISIL?
This doesnt make sense whatsoever, did they belive that artillery posed some kind of a threat to IDF O.o? I am doing my best to understand this action but i am failing.
Of course it makes sense, jesus christ, you guys act like you have alzheimer. The fucking US and Israel created ISIS/FSA,Al-CIAda to overthrow unwanted governments, why the fuck would this same piece of shit hegemony regimes want Assad to destroy their little fanatic proxy soldiers? They certainly still want Assad and entire Syria to be gone, Israel wants to be regional power and later to sustain world domination. ISIS never even attempted going on Israeli soil despite being "Islamic fundamentalists" that oppose anything anti islamic/infidels, so why going against soley independent muslim populated countries, but never attempt to kill infidels?
They are not islamic fundamentalists, not the decision makers, they are paid mercenaries under false flag to give the muricans and sraelits a white vest in public while being still praised and can glorify their worthless assholes as being the solution for a problem they are themselfs.
Treat your alzheimer guys, gets annoying...
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