Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

Incredible work, geo-located location from the nighttime photo and an amazing same view daytime photo. Hats off to the skill.

Looks to be an effective raid. Happy day for the IAF.

Samir
@obretix
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geolocation https://google.com/maps?ll=35.154867,36.346899&q=35.154867,36.346899&hl=en&t=h&z=15

It's not the same photo .

ahmedfire wrote:It's not the same photo .

Those photos seem to match to that place pretty closely.

Do you mean the attack was in a different place or that the second photo is the right place but not of this attack? If so do you have a picture?

That top photo looks computer generated and the front area on fire is not in correct alignment with the one in the top photo... the road leading away on the middle left of the picture is right, but the heavily populated urban area in the distance doesn't exist in the top photo...

In the night photo in the background is an enormous urban area... which is not present in the day photo... and the front burning area in the night photo is not aligned in the top (day) photo either.

But fundamentally I don't think the day photo is a photo... it is computer generated terrain.

The "day" photo is obviously from something like Google Earth.

Google Earth also have that terrain contour feature which very helpful but apparently underrated.

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All these attacks are a clear sign of some deals behind the doors between Bellirigents of Syrian war. A Balance which should not be broken. But for some reason people keep pointing fingers on the S-300's. The absence of Syrian MiG's for air cover was the first sign i realized.

The long story short is that Israeli are allowed to strike as long as it not a threat to current regime or endangering Russian personnel, Iran can still send troops to reinforce Syrian forces against the terrorist, US are basically "free reign" across Northern Syria but no more than that, Turks are basically occupying the Northern Syria but no more than that, Kurds are in the mercy of both SAA and Turkey and apparently made no real move.

It's really difficult for me to explain above to people now as they tend to have a black and white perspective.

Read from the bottom up. As he says, Syria is going to have to respond to the IAF taking the piss like this.

Within Syria
@WithinSyriaBlog
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Syria, which is exhausted by 10 years of war, can’t for sure stop such complex attacks. It is impossible with the available resources. Voices within the SAA calling for a “ military response” are for sure louder than ever, as this has became the only way to deter Israel.

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The operation proved that Israel can attack targets in Hama from eastern Syria, not only from Lebanon as it usually does. A Syrian officer regarded the operation as “live fire drills” believing that it was more of a training as Israel could have stuck the targets in easier ways.

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The complex Israeli operation was meant as a political message and a demonstration of Israel’s aerial capabilities. The targeted positions were mostly Syrian. The most valuable target, the EW network, was completely Syrian.

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The second stage of the Israeli attack resulted in no human losses whatsoever. All the targeted sites were already evacuated.

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Per usual, most Israeli sources claimed that the targeted sites were “Iranian positions,” while in fact they were joint ammo depots. All of them contained low-caliber ammo and IRAMs. They were mainly used by Iranian forces and the NDF, but would also supply the SAA.

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From northeast Syria, IAF warplanes launched a new set of guided munitions. This time, the targets were in Hama; the onion drying factory near al-Salamiyah, the cultural center in Sabburah, the forage factory near Aqarib, a military camp near Ithriyah.


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After destroying the EW network, the IAF launched the second stage of its operation [early on June 24]. A second group of Israeli warplanes followed the same route. This time, however, they penetrated Syria’s airspace.

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The Early Warning network, which included three radars in Tell al-Sahun [As Suwayda], Ghabgib [Deir Ezzor] and As Sukhnah [Homs], was completely destroyed. Two SAA officers were killed and two others were injured. The network was not supported by any air-defense systems.



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In the first stage [late on June 23], a group of Israeli warplanes, likely F-35, snuck along the Syrian-Jordanian border. From there, they fired guided munitions against a newly-established Early Warning network of the Syrian Air Defense Force and the Reconnaissance Directorate.

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Last week, the Israeli Air Force carried out a complex operation against a set of targets in southeast, east and central Syria. The operation which took place on June 23, 24 consisted of two main stages.

More Nazinjahoo fantasy strikes.

Hole wrote:More Nazinjahoo fantasy strikes.

OK, I based my post on the following background tweets and other links from the time. Now pray tell us what you based your flat dismissal on.

ZOKA
@200_zoka
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Urgent Explosions were heard in some parts of the eastern countryside of As-Suwayda, amid initial information, which is likely to be of the Israeli airstrikes at the Tel al-Sahn point, located east of the villages of Al-Hoya and Meleh, a radar point belonging to the Syrian army.

ZOKA
@200_zoka
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According unconfirmed news from Suwayda 24 four soldiers were wouded near radar while two killed somewhere east from Palmyra

MapperKrum
@Krummapper
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#IDF launched second wave strike and pounded another target in salamiyah/#Homs at 01:00.
Aftermath of the bombing.

Satellite pictures at link

https://twitter.com/Krummapper/status/1275737956494512128


Syria’s air defenses are firing at air targets in the sky over Hama, SANA news agency reported.

“The air defenses are repelling missile attacks of the enemy on the outskirts of Hama [220 km from Damascus] and hit several targets,” the report said.

Earlier, the Israeli Air Defense allegedly attacked army positions in As-Suwayda and Deir ez-Zor. Two soldiers died and four others were wounded. Al Hadath TV channel reported that the missile attacks on the Syrian military facilities were delivered by the Israeli Air Force. According to the report, the attacks targeted pro-Iranian units fighting on the side of the Syrian army.

Source: TASS, June 24, 2020
https://geopolitics.news/middle-east/syrias-air-defenses-repelling-missile-attacks-on-hama-outskirts/

Spriter
@ynms79797979
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Jun 23
the ammunition depot near Al-Salamiyah

video at https://twitter.com/RebeccaRambar/status/1275560203128365056

Spriter
@ynms79797979
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Jun 24
Important -Salamieh: News of injuries and ambulances and firefighters heading to the targeted location (onion plant)

No injuries and no martyrs
And those present immediately vacated the area when the first missile landed in the factory

Jun 24
Salamiyah- arrival of the three national hospital
They were injured as a result of flying fragments from the explosions that targeted a Salamiyah city

Jun 24
Syria, Hama
Sham FM correspondent: 3 civilians were wounded by shrapnel resulting from the Israeli aggression on Hama eastern countryside


Links with video

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/06/23/628120/Syria-air-defenses-Israeli-airstrikes-Suwayda-Dayr-al-Zawr-Homs

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202006241079702893-videos-of-alleged-aftermath-of-airstrikes-in-syrian-hama-province-emerge-on-social-media/

This clearly begs question on where are the MiG's. They should be on air and be the first to respond upon suspicious radar contact.

The main component for air defense is always fighter aircrafts. SAM's will be to down whatever remains from the aircrafts.

Stealthflanker wrote:This clearly begs question on where are the MiG's.  They should be on air and be the first to respond upon suspicious radar contact.

The main component for air defense is always fighter aircrafts. SAM's will be to down whatever remains from the aircrafts.  

Using their mig-29 would increase Israeli attack. SAA can't face a more serious Israel involvement. As of today Israeli attacks don't hurt that much SAA.

No mention of IAF shot down for some reason. More at link

Israel has destroyed one-third of Syrian air defenses in the past two years, and close to a thousand surface-to-air missiles have been launched towards Israel Air Force jets during missions for its “war-between-wars” campaign targeting Iranian infrastructure in the war-torn country.

Israel has been carrying out its war-between-war campaign against Iran since 2013, striking thousands of targets in Syria, and according to foreign reports in neighboring Iraq, in order to prevent the smuggling of advanced weaponry to Hezbollah in Lebanon and the entrenchment of its forces in Syria where they could easily act against Israel.

Israel does not comment on most alleged strikes, but it has been accused of carrying out strikes around the capital of Damascus as well as deep inside Syrian territory including in northern Syria near the Turkish border as well as the al-Bukamal region near the Syrian-Iraqi border.

Nevertheless, with an increase in strikes by Israel, the Syrian regime began to respond and fire surface-to-air missiles at Israeli jets. According to data seen by The Jerusalem Post, 844 such missiles were fired between 2017-2020 compared to just two fired between 2010-2013.

In response to the firing of the missiles, IAF jets struck the launchers and have taken out regime air-defense batteries such as Sa2, Sa17, Sa22, and SA5. Dozens of Syrian regime soldiers were killed in the strikes.

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/israel-has-taken-out-13-of-syrian-air-defenses-in-last-two-years-watch-638516

JohninMK wrote:No mention of IAF shot down for some reason. More at link

Israel has destroyed one-third of Syrian air defenses in the past two years, and close to a thousand surface-to-air missiles have been launched towards Israel Air Force jets during missions for its “war-between-wars” campaign targeting Iranian infrastructure in the war-torn country.

Israel has been carrying out its war-between-war campaign against Iran since 2013, striking thousands of targets in Syria, and according to foreign reports in neighboring Iraq, in order to prevent the smuggling of advanced weaponry to Hezbollah in Lebanon and the entrenchment of its forces in Syria where they could easily act against Israel.

Israel does not comment on most alleged strikes, but it has been accused of carrying out strikes around the capital of Damascus as well as deep inside Syrian territory including in northern Syria near the Turkish border as well as the al-Bukamal region near the Syrian-Iraqi border.

Nevertheless, with an increase in strikes by Israel, the Syrian regime began to respond and fire surface-to-air missiles at Israeli jets. According to data seen by The Jerusalem Post, 844 such missiles were fired between 2017-2020 compared to just two fired between 2010-2013.

In response to the firing of the missiles, IAF jets struck the launchers and have taken out regime air-defense batteries such as Sa2, Sa17, Sa22, and SA5. Dozens of Syrian regime soldiers were killed in the strikes.

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/israel-has-taken-out-13-of-syrian-air-defenses-in-last-two-years-watch-638516

Cheesy propaganda drivel. Not surprising coming from the J<> Post. They all got taken out have they. Really.

Regime this and regime that. The clowns who brazenly succor Daesh/ISIS are not credible in their hate smear.

The most peace-loving and democtratic country in the ME "strikes" again.

Isreali + turkish numbers = 200% of SAA air defence system destroyed which is something like 1000 pantsir, 400 buk launchers and 200 radars + syrian space based radars too.

Why doesn't Russia give a TorM1/2 to Syria? Damascus airport and T3 and T4 would be much safer with it. I do not understand that.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Why doesn't Russia give a TorM1/2 to Syria? Damascus airport and T3 and T4 would be much safer with it. I do not understand that.

Because they don't give a shit about Iranian fight against Israel and won't help them over that. Russians and Syrian don't really like the begaviour of Iran in Syria.

Unfortunately Iran uses bases where SAA operates and their soldier get bombed everytime. Iran hides its deaths.

Iran is producing AD system and can use them if they want there untill israel destroys them.

IAF did a strike yesterday over Syria .

ahmedfire wrote:
IAF did a strike yesterday over Syria .

More of the same, unless the Russians provide real active and responsive assistance this will continue indefinitely. The talk of Russia not helping because it’s Iran targets they’re hitting is just plain rubbish.
Countless Syrian systems have now been destroyed along with Syrian personnel. The Russians continue to sit by as they have done from the beginning unless Russians are killed. Good for business though as the Syrians have to keep replacing these systems from Russia...
The fact is the israelis do as they like, when they like and how they like and have no intention of allowing Syria to build any meaningful aa system. They’re targeting bits here and there ensuring what little they have can mount no serious threat to them.
There is simply nothing Syria can do here and these attacks will continue unabated as they have from the beginning.

Syria is getting more help than it could dream of thanks to Russia. Russia is not obliged to fight a war with Israel and its pitbull
America just to "live up" to someone's expectations. Without Russia Syria would have suffered the fate of Libya.

Also "countless" is hardly a credible characterization. Russia has provided Syria with enough self defense capability for Israel
to dial down its chutzpah. Somehow you and others fob that off as totally of no significance. You have, therefore, a
credibility problem.

@ ISOS

"..... Because they don't give a shit about Iranian fight against Israel and won't help them over that. Russians and Syrian don't really like the begaviour of Iran in Syria.Unfortunately Iran uses bases where SAA operates and their soldier get bombed everytime. Iran hides its deaths.Iran is producing AD system and can use them if they want there untill israel destroys them...... "

Maybe Iran could withdraw from Syria. At least temporarily . Maybe Usrael attacks against Syria will stop? But if not, interesting to see the explanation for inaction by Russia / Syria. Perhaps Russia can only safeguard own bases. Not Syria itself. Since it can not, or will not go to war with Usrael. Maybe then Syrians will fire back at Usrael. They sure know how to build BM. Iran need only supply materials. Hezb forces are not attacked. Wonder why?

kvs wrote:Syria is getting more help than it could dream of thanks to Russia.   Russia is not obliged to fight a war with Israel and its pitbull
America just to "live up" to someone's expectations.   Without Russia Syria would have suffered the fate of Libya.  

Also "countless" is hardly a credible characterization.   Russia has provided Syria with enough self defense capability for Israel
to dial down its chutzpah.   Somehow you and others fob that off as totally of no significance.   You have, therefore, a
credibility problem.

Lol, calm your tits with all your emotional claptrap. Nowhere have I disputed the fact that Syria would be lost if it not for Russian intervention.
However the facts of my post remain. Until the Russians slap down the israelis, these attacks will continue unabated; the crux of my argument
Your point on Russia providing enough capabilities is a very much debatable one however.

crod wrote:
More of the same, unless the Russians provide real active and responsive assistance this will continue indefinitely. The talk of Russia not helping because it’s Iran targets they’re hitting is just plain rubbish.
Countless Syrian systems have now been destroyed along with Syrian personnel. The Russians continue to sit by as they have done from the beginning unless Russians are killed. Good for business though as the Syrians have to keep replacing these systems from Russia...
The fact is the israelis do as they like, when they like and how they like and have no intention of allowing Syria to build any meaningful aa system. They’re targeting bits here and there ensuring what little they have can mount no serious threat to them.
There is simply nothing Syria can do here and these attacks will continue unabated as they have from the beginning.

Russian attack against Israel means a war with US because Israel will destroy the Russian bases in Syria which will lead to a direct Russian fireback against Israel itself .

The main issue the Syrians didn't built a well equipped and professional army through the last 40 years ,they had to do that and launch a war in Golan since a long time . Even if they lost it they will make Israel negotiate to avoid any future wars because they afraid from long wars which freeze their whole life in Israel .

Israel has a powerful army but a very weak "country" .Some missiles from Gaza and Lebanon will lockdown half of Israel ,that's why they aggressively fireback on such attacks .

ahmedfire wrote:

crod wrote:
More of the same, unless the Russians provide real active and responsive assistance this will continue indefinitely. The talk of Russia not helping because it’s Iran targets they’re hitting is just plain rubbish.
Countless Syrian systems have now been destroyed along with Syrian personnel. The Russians continue to sit by as they have done from the beginning unless Russians are killed. Good for business though as the Syrians have to keep replacing these systems from Russia...
The fact is the israelis do as they like, when they like and how they like and have no intention of allowing Syria to build any meaningful aa system. They’re targeting bits here and there ensuring what little they have can mount no serious threat to them.
There is simply nothing Syria can do here and these attacks will continue unabated as they have from the beginning.

Russian attack against Israel means a war with US because Israel will destroy the Russian bases in Syria which will lead to a direct Russian fireback against Israel itself .

The main issue the Syrians didn't built a well equipped and professional army through the last 40 years ,they had to do that and launch a war in Golan since a long time . Even if they lost it they will make Israel negotiate to avoid any future wars because they afraid from long wars which freeze their whole life in Israel .

Israel has a powerful army but a very weak "country" .Some missiles from Gaza and Lebanon will lockdown half of Israel ,that's why they aggressively fireback on such attacks .

Not suggesting they attack israel, unless they’re blatantly attacked of course in which case it is self defence. However the simple facts are that only Russia is equipped with the tech to match and defeat the iaf. They can put a blanket ban on air traffic (west of the Euphrates), station Russians with Syrians etc, those type measures would nullify the israeli plans.

But all this has nothing to with my op, that is iaf are free to attack as they see fit and there is nothing the very limited saa aa can do about it and only the Russians can stop it, that, again is a simple straight forward fact of which there can be no dispute.

The Russians are saving the Syrian govt and people but if it wants to get the hell out of this very expensive war, it needs Syria and all aspects of the saa to be functional and of strength. Allowing the israelis to launch hundreds of attacks that destroys infrastructure is not conducive to this.

Except that would torpedo Russia's warm relations with Israel. And for what?

They already have the Syrians in their back pockets. As it stands, the Russians have done more than enough to ensure that the frequency of the strikes have been considerably lessened and that the vast majority of strikes leave Syrian capabilities untouched. If the Israelis had their way they would still be bombing Syria 7 days a week multiple times a day like it has before the Russians loaned the Syrians their new toys.

Iran? Iran is a competitor, not an ally. Russia has no interest in facilitating Iran's expansion into Israel's periphery for which Israel has due cause to be worried about, and neither is Russia interested in supporting Iran's regional ambitions. Ambitions which even Iran seems to have neither the cojones nor the wherewithal to protect I might add. Then there is the matter of unpaid debts incurred during the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan as well as the massacres of the Iranian communist movement. It might have taken a while but those deeds ought to be punished.