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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:39 pm

    Naturally the west is the zenith of humanity and is more beautiful and powerful than "those Asiatics".

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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:28 am

    My first impression of that image was America the father and the Russian character looks like Tintin type son and the Chinese character looks like a sister...

    Or maybe just my racist old eyes, but interesting there is not room for any other country on the planet.. no europe...

    The height is interesting too... the american figure is taller but unlike the real world is not looking down on Russia or China, while Russia is slightly looking up at the US but China does not look up...

    The real world the US looks down at everyone despite not being actually above anyone in terms of morality or ethics and while many in Russia look up to the US I think Putin is looking decidedly down at them and starting to turn away, while China looks up but probably not for much longer and they are certainly looking in other directions too, but have a lot more ties to the west that will be hard to break or cut but I think we can expect the US to cut them...
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    Post  kvs Mon May 03, 2021 10:24 pm



    Yanqui retards have accused Russia of using directed energy weapons against their precious troops abroad. Of course,
    there is no proof or even distinctive symptom characterization that would be a fingerprint of such attacks. "Highly likely"
    is the only "proof" these haters need.

    Recall that the yanquis routinely give experimental vaccines to their troops. Unlike the bitch-spazzing on this forum by SS
    with the lie that Sputnik V was not undergoing Phase III trials, the US actually does dish out vaccines that have not even
    gone through a Phase II trial. The claimed symptoms for the "directed energy attacks" are more than likely due to the
    rubbish that the yanquis inject themselves.

    Also, it is thick and rich for the yanqui haters to go on and on about such attacks (which include sound in addition to some magic
    EM frequencies) when they themselves used sound attacks to capture Noriega. Do as we say and not as we do.

    The video above makes the point that as the US swirls the toilet bowl it will look for any pretext to blame Russia for its problems.
    The US has already cranked up its sovereign debt from 22 to 28 trillion and will take it to around 35 trillion dollars this year.
    This money is inflationary and you can see this in the hysterical price increases from real estate to industrial products
    such as construction inputs (plywood, etc.).

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    Post  kvs Mon May 03, 2021 10:31 pm

    BTW, some of the ruminations in the video are likely prescient. The US needs a real causus belli against Russia. Joe Bidet is the
    perfect sacrificial lamb. Expect the yanqui rulers to have him offed in some fashion with the blame being ascribed to Russia. Given
    that the average western sap has an IQ of less than 85 (no matter what Anatoly Karlin believes, empirical evidence is the only valid
    evidence), they will believe it is "highly likely" that ebil Rosshian Putin did it. After all Putin shot down MH17 just for kicks and loves
    to kill a small number or irrelevant nobodies with exotic "signature" weapons. Because he is 007 flick cheeseball evil.

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    Post  elconquistador Thu May 06, 2021 8:06 am

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    Big disclaimer: it's a rumour.

    But would be a boss move if true. And I think 5 million would be a very conservative estimate

    Russia's enemies have been trying it brain-drain it for decades. This would be slick countermove.

    But make sure that any new arrivals learn the language, respect the culture and learn about its history

    And don't leech off the system.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu May 06, 2021 8:33 am

    Five million would be a very large sudden influx of people, I doubt they would support that right away it would take years.

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    Post  kvs Thu May 06, 2021 2:51 pm

    @elconquistador

    There are videos on the subject of immigrants in Russian which are too tedious to translate so I will just give the gist.
    The primary concern in Russia is that new immigrants do not bring western liberast depravity to Russia and shift
    its political spectrum towards PC stooges of the west. So the law is being modified to give preference to people
    who invest hard core money into real sectors of the economy (not just buying expensive real estate). Russia is
    not interested in office urchins but more in people like the South African farmers who have a sober view of reality.

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    Post  elconquistador Thu May 06, 2021 3:44 pm

    kvs wrote:@elconquistador

    There are videos on the subject of immigrants in Russian which are too tedious to translate so I will just give the gist.
    The primary concern in Russia is that new immigrants do not bring western liberast depravity to Russia and shift
    its political spectrum towards PC stooges of the west.    So the law is being modified to give preference to people
    who invest hard core money into real sectors of the economy (not just buying expensive real estate).   Russia is
    not interested in office urchins but more in people like the South African farmers who have a sober view of reality.


    Those videos originate at the same source as this tweet?

    If yes, what's the source?

    Establishing some sort of threshold in the form of a lump sum would indeed be the best screening method

    Although in that case the overall age composition of the potential immigrants will shift heavily towards the boomers
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    Post  kvs Thu May 06, 2021 8:12 pm

    elconquistador wrote:
    kvs wrote:@elconquistador

    There are videos on the subject of immigrants in Russian which are too tedious to translate so I will just give the gist.
    The primary concern in Russia is that new immigrants do not bring western liberast depravity to Russia and shift
    its political spectrum towards PC stooges of the west.    So the law is being modified to give preference to people
    who invest hard core money into real sectors of the economy (not just buying expensive real estate).   Russia is
    not interested in office urchins but more in people like the South African farmers who have a sober view of reality.


    Those videos originate at the same source as this tweet?

    If yes, what's the source?

    Establishing some sort of threshold in the form of a lump sum would indeed be the best screening method

    Although in that case the overall age composition of the potential immigrants will shift heavily towards the boomers

    No, those YouCrap videos are by channels such as Rogandar News and similar. They have nothing to do with the particular
    Twatter account you link.



    A consideration is that there are still millions of Russian living outside of Russian in the limitrophe zone that are worthwhile
    immigration material. I am not including those that identify as Ukrs or other anti-Russian groups.

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    Post  kvs Fri May 07, 2021 3:21 am

    The unapproved vaccine I had in mind in my previous post was the one for anthrax during the Gulf War (first war on Iraq).   The FDA had not approved this
    vaccine during the 2003 war on Iraq.    But it was used anyway.  

    The US military has a long history of unethical and downright criminal biowarfare experiments on both American citizens and foreigners.
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    Post  franco Fri May 07, 2021 12:16 pm

    Apparently the Atlantic Council has decided to ignore KVS's advise and have named Kudrin as their preferred successor to Putin Suspect Fools don't even realize they just gave him the kiss of death in Russian politics No

    https://topcor.ru/19803-v-ssha-nazvali-zhelaemogo-preemnika-putina.html
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    Post  kvs Fri May 07, 2021 3:36 pm

    franco wrote:Apparently the Atlantic Council has decided to ignore KVS's advise and have named Kudrin as their preferred successor to Putin Suspect Fools don't even realize they just gave him the kiss of death in Russian politics No

    https://topcor.ru/19803-v-ssha-nazvali-zhelaemogo-preemnika-putina.html

    The west wallows in fantasy projection and wishful thinking when it comes to Russia. I would call it the collective Russia derangement syndrome
    of western elites.

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    Post  kvs Sun May 09, 2021 5:52 pm

    https://www.reuters.com/technology/colonial-pipeline-halts-all-pipeline-operations-after-cybersecurity-attack-2021-05-08/

    So we have another BS "cyber attack" on US infrastructure.

    This is stage manage propaganda BS that will be used against Russia in a game of proof by assertion.

    The idea of linking critical computer systems to the internet is simply retarded. The only possible reason for this would be for
    workers and managers to have easy remote access for monitoring. But this is insane. There are staff working for these
    companies 24/7. They can do their fcuking jobs and monitor these systems from LAN terminals instead of the internet.

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    Post  Backman Sun May 09, 2021 6:40 pm

    ^ So far it's not being attributed to a state. It's just impossible to believe that any state would do a cheap shot cyber attack on the US when the US is in this kind of mood. Who in the right mind would do a cyber attack on the US now ? I doubt even north Korea would have that bad of judgement. It's either some criminal group or a false flag.

    But they will blame it on one of the enemy countries. Maybe even 4 years from now like they did with the Czchec false flag.
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    Post  kvs Sun May 09, 2021 6:46 pm

    Backman wrote:^ So far it's not being attributed to a state. It's just impossible to believe that any state would do a cheap shot cyber attack on the US when the US is in this kind of mood. Who in the right mind would do a cyber attack on the US now ? I doubt even north Korea would have that bad of judgement. It's either some criminal group or a false flag.

    But they will blame it on one of the enemy countries. Maybe even 4 years from now like they did with the Czchec false flag.

    I am quite sure they will be hurling accusations soon. They did it already in a previous hack of some power plant computers in the USA.
    Because random hackers can't possibly act on their own, they must have Putin's authorization.

    The US is a demented clown state. You can see this when scumbags like Blinken keep on claiming exclusive ownership of the subject
    of human rights. As if the USA and its bootlicks are the sole arbiters of what constitutes human rights and abuse of such rights. The
    US is a prime human rights abuser. They piss on the heads of humanity with their spew about Navalny, but at the same time slaughter
    thousands of civilians during their drone warfare on foreign soil. As with flight 655 which they shot down from inside Iranian territorial
    waters, they will give medals to the war criminals spreading "humanitarianism".

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    Post  elconquistador Sun May 09, 2021 9:13 pm

    Backman wrote:^ So far it's not being attributed to a state. It's just impossible to believe that any state would do a cheap shot cyber attack on the US when the US is in this kind of mood. Who in the right mind would do a cyber attack on the US now ? I doubt even north Korea would have that bad of judgement. It's either some criminal group or a false flag.

    But they will blame it on one of the enemy countries. Maybe even 4 years from now like they did with the Czchec false flag.

    It's a US government agency running trials.


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    Post  Kiko Thu May 13, 2021 1:43 am

    Moscow Carefully Examines US Proposals on Putin-Biden Summit.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Moscow is carefully examining the US proposals on a summit between the Russian and American presidents, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said on Wednesday.

    Ryabkov told reporters that Moscow is always open to dialogue and believes that such a meeting is crucial both politically and diplomatically.

    Meanwhile, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement that Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and US Secretary of State Antony Blinken had discussed how to organise a Biden-Putin meeting over the phone.

    Biden said last week that a tentative meeting between him and Putin is being arranged for June.

    The White House has recently announced that Biden invited Putin to meet in a European country. Earlier in May, Biden said that he was hoping to meet with Putin in June. The Kremlin reported that a possible date for the meeting is being discussed.

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/202105121082871125-moscow-carefully-examines-us-proposals-on-putin-biden-summit/
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 13, 2021 3:46 am


    Location should be outside of Europe

    Enough with that Helsinki bullshit



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    Post  flamming_python Thu May 13, 2021 4:49 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Location should be outside of Europe

    Enough with that Helsinki bullshit




    Who cares where it is

    It will consist of Biden attempting to subtly blackmail Putin into dropping ties with China; else they were start a whole bunch of ethnic conflicts that will cut off Russia from Europe people-wise as well as economically - Donbass, maybe one of the Baltic States, and maybe switching to fermenting separatism within it like they've been trying to do with China, as clearly the Navalny stuff isn't working.

    Or perhaps they may try to draw Russia into their positions on other issues where they're already not too much different, like North Korea and the Arctic, at least that's what they've been hinting at ahead of the meeting. But this can't be more than a smokescreen IMO.

    Putin should go of course, hear all this crap out if for nothing else.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 13, 2021 5:05 am


    Of course it's a smokescreen

    That's why I was talking about location, it's the only even remotely relevant thing

    Joe is neck deep in shit, you can at least watch him try swimming in location of your own choosing

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    Post  GarryB Thu May 13, 2021 11:29 am

    I would demand an apology for the Killer without a soul jab before I spoke with that turd.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu May 13, 2021 5:00 pm

    GarryB wrote:I would demand an apology for the Killer without a soul jab before I spoke with that turd.

    Na let the turd have his say

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    Post  Backman Thu May 13, 2021 7:02 pm

    Here we go.

    Biden says the hack wasn't likely the Russian state but could have been cyber criminals in Russia

    https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1392884937011904512?s=19

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    Post  LMFS Thu May 13, 2021 7:54 pm

    Yeah Russia cannot be accused directly but they are guilty regardless. Nice crap

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    Post  kvs Thu May 13, 2021 9:20 pm

    LMFS wrote:Yeah Russia cannot be accused directly but they are guilty regardless. Nice crap

    But the real problem is that most Americans and residents of NATzO are too stupid to see this for the hate propaganda that
    it is. The American morons that tied the operation of critical infrastructure to internet connected computers somehow
    are not the real problem. But without a single shred of evidence the claim of Russian hackers did it is supposed to be serious
    and credible. And shit does not smell in America.

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