GarryB wrote: What they saying is an active bombing system with unguided bombs works well up to 3 km height, above that the precision of it degrading .
So some article writer for National Interest website tells us that the Russians are morons and liars and when they say their system is effective and they are adding the system to their theatre bombers (Tu-22M3M), and their long range tactical strike bombers (Su-24 and Su-34) and now to their naval fighters (Su-33) that obviously they must be idiots and don't know as much as America does.
America tried it and failed so it is not possible that the Russians might have gotten it right.
BTW making cheap dumb bombs effective is unAmerican... there is no profit margin there... it makes more sense to fit expensive guidance packages to cheap dumb bombs like Paveway...
And actualy the manpads can shoot down an airplane that flying under 3km , so the system is effective only against enemy who doesn't has manpads.
Yeah... of course... those dumb Russians don't know what they are talking about and their claims of being able to bomb from safe altitudes with the accuracy of guided weapons must all be made up... because some American said so.
It is logical, considering that the normal, unguided air deffence guns are useless above 5-6 km.It is the inverse of the same reason why you need to use guided rockets to shoot down anything above 5-6km.
It is as logical to expect good information about Russian equipment on that site as it is to expect good information about the US from the leader of North Korea... and for much the same reasons... countries that think they are at war have no reason to tell the truth.
Do they replace its old IRST with more modern IRST like those on Su-30 with TV and laser designator channels inside for ground attacks and modernize radar with ground attack modes? Such modernizations will make Su-33 useful plane over Syria, without them it will be useless as it will not be able to share target informations with others and without capabilities to find targets by itself.
???? So what you are saying is that an Su-33 is bloody useless and cannot find targets nor can it use a radio or data link to share information about targets other platforms have found....
Don't you think it would be likely that if they gave it the ability to hit ground targets with dumb bombs, that they might also give it the capacity to find said targets or be passed target data while in flight?
Problem is if you need 4 bombs on 3 km, then you need 8 on 6 km and 16 pn 12 km.
And if that were true what if they need 2 bombs at 12,000m?
If the bombers were dropping bombs from 3km then where are all the videos of Tu-22M3s releasing bombs from the ground perspective... surely such an attack would be easily visible... unless they were bombing from over 10km altitude and targets on the ground didn't even know they were there until the bombs exploded on the ground.
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