Is that the Iskander cruise missile variant? - Nevermind, it is a coastal defense system...
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cracker wrote:Some recent posts from MP
"Azov photos from Norvegian TV2 channel"
AlfaT8 wrote:cracker wrote:Some recent posts from MP
"Azov photos from Norvegian TV2 channel"
Yeah, this Cease fire isn't last long.
Mike E wrote:Look at this drill in Crimea;
Is that the Iskander cruise missile variant?
Thanks Werewolf. So the missile fired is an Onyx...Werewolf wrote:Mike E wrote:Look at this drill in Crimea;
Is that the Iskander cruise missile variant?
Looks like Bastion-P Coast Defense Missile or some similiar system.
More info about this picture pleasecracker wrote:
https://2img.net/h/s30.postimg.cc/vkjq5adm9/2o_FOONo5_Hr_E.jpg
Mike E wrote:Absolutely terrible! The "creator" of this piece of crap should be shot on site, not kidding!Hannibal Barca wrote:cracker wrote:some utter retarded crap...
And the tank is chinese ztz99...
Actually this would be the most fortunate thing happen to pure Britons since magna Carta.
At least they can finally become a democracy like Russia.
Greetings from Moscow. The climate here is very nationalistic, very right wing. Great!
The fact that they used a Chinese tank with a Russian flag on top says it all!
I don't, but still! - I think I'm going blind now... Too much time looking at that "thing".Hannibal Barca wrote:Mike E wrote:Absolutely terrible! The "creator" of this piece of crap should be shot on site, not kidding!Hannibal Barca wrote:cracker wrote:some utter retarded crap...
And the tank is chinese ztz99...
Actually this would be the most fortunate thing happen to pure Britons since magna Carta.
At least they can finally become a democracy like Russia.
Greetings from Moscow. The climate here is very nationalistic, very right wing. Great!
The fact that they used a Chinese tank with a Russian flag on top says it all!
Don't take this things too seriously.
Mike E wrote:I don't, but still! - I think I'm going blind now... Too much time looking at that "thing".Hannibal Barca wrote:Mike E wrote:Absolutely terrible! The "creator" of this piece of crap should be shot on site, not kidding!Hannibal Barca wrote:cracker wrote:some utter retarded crap...
And the tank is chinese ztz99...
Actually this would be the most fortunate thing happen to pure Britons since magna Carta.
At least they can finally become a democracy like Russia.
Greetings from Moscow. The climate here is very nationalistic, very right wing. Great!
The fact that they used a Chinese tank with a Russian flag on top says it all!
Don't take this things too seriously.
magnumcromagnon wrote:Mike E wrote:I don't, but still! - I think I'm going blind now... Too much time looking at that "thing".Hannibal Barca wrote:Mike E wrote:Absolutely terrible! The "creator" of this piece of crap should be shot on site, not kidding!Hannibal Barca wrote:cracker wrote:some utter retarded crap...
And the tank is chinese ztz99...
Actually this would be the most fortunate thing happen to pure Britons since magna Carta.
At least they can finally become a democracy like Russia.
Greetings from Moscow. The climate here is very nationalistic, very right wing. Great!
The fact that they used a Chinese tank with a Russian flag on top says it all!
Don't take this things too seriously.
I think who ever made that should swan dive in to a wood chipper.
Vann7 wrote:
NO truce will hold.. The only reason there is a truce is for Russia pressure on the rebels..and Europe pressure on Poroshenko.. But US and and its loyal cronies ,specially the baltic states and poland will fuel the conflict to last forever . So Russia will be forced to Increase the military help to novorossiya and in the end they will only get
their Independence when they capture by force all Lugansk and Donetsk Territories. It will be a brutal war and that
could go into a world full scale mercenary proxy war. Exactly as what it is now Middle east with ISIS. NATO could create an army of 100,000 criminals gangs from jails ,and send them to fight to Eastern Ukraine.
Only way the war can be stopped fast is total collapse of Ukie economy and that the Ukie army split in half and rebels against their own government.Also the killing of Poroshenko and army leaders and nazis in Government.But im afraid NATO could literary rule Kiev directly if that happens.and the ukies will be so dumb to follow orders from a foreigner that cannot even speak Ukrainian or Russian well.
NATO should’ve been buried at the end of the cold war: instead, the NATO-crats went on the offensive – breaching the understanding reached by Western leaders with then Russian leader Mikhail Gorbachev – and expanded into most of eastern Europe.
Too fast of a death!magnumcromagnon wrote:Mike E wrote:I don't, but still! - I think I'm going blind now... Too much time looking at that "thing".Hannibal Barca wrote:Mike E wrote:Absolutely terrible! The "creator" of this piece of crap should be shot on site, not kidding!Hannibal Barca wrote:cracker wrote:some utter retarded crap...
And the tank is chinese ztz99...
Actually this would be the most fortunate thing happen to pure Britons since magna Carta.
At least they can finally become a democracy like Russia.
Greetings from Moscow. The climate here is very nationalistic, very right wing. Great!
The fact that they used a Chinese tank with a Russian flag on top says it all!
Don't take this things too seriously.
I think who ever made that should swan dive in to a wood chipper.
arpakola wrote:Vann7 wrote:
NO truce will hold.. The only reason there is a truce is for Russia pressure on the rebels..and Europe pressure on Poroshenko.. But US and and its loyal cronies ,specially the baltic states and poland will fuel the conflict to last forever . So Russia will be forced to Increase the military help to novorossiya and in the end they will only get
their Independence when they capture by force all Lugansk and Donetsk Territories. It will be a brutal war and that
could go into a world full scale mercenary proxy war. Exactly as what it is now Middle east with ISIS. NATO could create an army of 100,000 criminals gangs from jails ,and send them to fight to Eastern Ukraine.
Only way the war can be stopped fast is total collapse of Ukie economy and that the Ukie army split in half and rebels against their own government.Also the killing of Poroshenko and army leaders and nazis in Government.But im afraid NATO could literary rule Kiev directly if that happens.and the ukies will be so dumb to follow orders from a foreigner that cannot even speak Ukrainian or Russian well.
the batle of Donetsk has shown also the hiden batles within Russian sosciety.. between russian people and guys represented by Surkov
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http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/09/02/our-cold-war-with-russia-could-turn-hot/
Our Cold War With Russia Could Turn Hot
NATO should’ve been buried at the end of the cold war: instead, the NATO-crats went on the offensive – breaching the understanding reached by Western leaders with then Russian leader Mikhail Gorbachev – and expanded into most of eastern Europe.
Vann7 wrote:arpakola wrote:Vann7 wrote:
NO truce will hold.. The only reason there is a truce is for Russia pressure on the rebels..and Europe pressure on Poroshenko.. But US and and its loyal cronies ,specially the baltic states and poland will fuel the conflict to last forever . So Russia will be forced to Increase the military help to novorossiya and in the end they will only get
their Independence when they capture by force all Lugansk and Donetsk Territories. It will be a brutal war and that
could go into a world full scale mercenary proxy war. Exactly as what it is now Middle east with ISIS. NATO could create an army of 100,000 criminals gangs from jails ,and send them to fight to Eastern Ukraine.
Only way the war can be stopped fast is total collapse of Ukie economy and that the Ukie army split in half and rebels against their own government.Also the killing of Poroshenko and army leaders and nazis in Government.But im afraid NATO could literary rule Kiev directly if that happens.and the ukies will be so dumb to follow orders from a foreigner that cannot even speak Ukrainian or Russian well.
the batle of Donetsk has shown also the hiden batles within Russian sosciety.. between russian people and guys represented by Surkov
==============================================
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/09/02/our-cold-war-with-russia-could-turn-hot/
Our Cold War With Russia Could Turn Hot
NATO should’ve been buried at the end of the cold war: instead, the NATO-crats went on the offensive – breaching the understanding reached by Western leaders with then Russian leader Mikhail Gorbachev – and expanded into most of eastern Europe.
I also suspect that the War In Ukraine will provoke major changes in Russian society , and Russia will become rightly for authoritarian country . Since they are in a state of war in an undeclared war by US . They will have to significantly increase the militarization of Russia , and the level of monitoring in society.. Something similar to CUba. And i don't see medvedev becoming the next President of Russia if , the Ukrainian conflict still is not solved and many civilians continue to die every day. Either a hardliner could come to power and push for a War with Ukraine and level to the ground kiev capital with its leadership until they stop the war against eastern ukraine.
That said.. the factions pro USA in Russia will become more and more a rare thing.. and the average society will want a more stronger policy against USA .. even if that means a direct confrontation and war with them.
But not all is doom and gloom.. In the long run Russia will be fine , Their movement of their markets to Asia will save Russia economy and will actually become much more stronger than it is now..Helping Russia to become a truly free and independent nation.. Im very optimistic however that Russia is not going anywhere ,other than forward ,same with China and India ..but in the near future or medium term it will be painful the civil war in Ukraine with western sanctions.