NATO: Discussion and News

like myself, more and more people people that where either active or former NATO soldiers are getting fed up with what the NATO organisation stands for and does. that is only serving the U.S foreign policy of waging war with anyone opposing U.S interests.

most recent an high-level soldier being an Czech Luitenant-Colonel that wrote in an open letter his reasons and handing in his NATO medals. as he said: “anyone who opposes any power interests of the US, even if defending identity, economy and sovereignty of their nation, must be ‘wiped off the map.’”


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in my recent activities i visited Germany and France for events and caught up with active troops as well i knew from my service. and usually we talk about a lot of things afterwards with an few drinks concerning our military's.  considering the U.S foreign policy in Ukraine and supporting and illegal coup there that used guys wearing Swastika's did not sat well with a lot of them. most felth their politicians did not represent their country's interrest and where "whores" to the U.S government. some viewed the U.S bases and troops in Europe as "occupiers since ww2" and others kept it more like: "we will not play any part in razing europe to the ground an third time in history, and certainly not because of the fucking yankee's".

and what did pleasantly surprised me as well is most look trough all the media bullshit because of their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan and how the U.S and NATO twisted facts on the ground to suit their dirty political goals. and openly bring up the question if the U.S is the actual enemy to Europe, and in extension to the rest of the world's stability.

for all the political tough-talk coming from E.U leaders and the U.S, the loyalty of the majority of E.U troops towards NATO and in extension U.S is very low. it was not always this low, but the last 15 years it really took an nose-dive.  only the old dinosaurs in the top or brainwashed little kids without experience believe the propaganda bullshit that the leadership spouts. and there are a lot of open spots in the E.U military's because a lot of guys decide to quit their careers for the reasons as described by the czech luitenant-colonel and others like me that share his opinion.

I am former Bundeswehr soldier and now in a reservists and there were already a few "journalists" who asked if our reservists federation administrative head could give an interview to Russia and Putin, which they layed down a script of the interview to demonize russia and putin. This is full war propaganda that is currently spreaded in germany and entire EU and even in former warsaw bloc countries. They want a war with EU's idiots lifes, because if US stays in the background and lets keep a slow war between non nuclear countries against russia it is safe for them to asume it stays conventional untill they operate 5th columnists within to overtake the government and sell out the country once more.

im aware of those practices, they did the same with us when deployed to Afghanistan and we had journalists asking for interviews. we also got this lists of "opinions" we should had. some that did those interviews actually tried to bring up the real things going on. but the millitary leadership had the final say of what the media would air on TV because of "the sensitivity of millitary operations" and would just edit out the parts that did not agree with their bullshit puppet show.

even worse, some guys lost their jobs in the army because they tried to be truthful. but this practice of trying to tell soldiers to say things they do not believe in works against them in the long run. it works as an knife in the back in soldiers that trust the organisation they fight for.

truthfully tough, im confident the U.S pursue's an "all or nothing" strategy to pit europe and its military's against Russia or the others not suiting the U.S foreign policy. but like the situation in Ukraine that strategy is falling apart. if it was up to the U.S "we" European troops would be foaming at the mouth about now ready to go to Russia's throats. but exactly the opposite is happening.

@ magnumcromagnon

im aware of that remarks of the Polish FM, but the truth is that NATO's strategy concerning the Euro meatshield is nothing new in the general strategy of the cold war. where it was already established that the Soviets would be able to take europe in conventional war. Europe just had to delay the soviets long enough so the Americans could arrive in full force to Europe. its genius for the U.S, E.U and Soviets grind eachother down and they march in and "safe" europe from the soviets. and propably would have irridiated half of europe with tactical nukes they had lying all over European NATO airfields to use against the soviets.

the U.S are not allies, its like an neighbour pretending to be your friend asking you to go smash up some dude's car he had an arguement with. and when that dude comes with an knife that neighbour pushes you into that knife so he can run away to get his gun. the U.S government in an nutshell .

same for the missile shield, it does nothing but to draw fire away from the U.S. itself. people mistake it as protection but in reality its the U.S and E.U politicians sacrificing the E.U entirely. but,... i think most of us agree E.U politicians serve the U.S without question. it must be a lot of money they get for committing high-treason to their own country's. but hey, even if it fails im sure they get safety in the U.S either way just like Shaakashvili after he declared war on Russia and ....NATO didn't safe his ass.

George1 wrote:NATO Should Invite Macedonia, Montenegro to Join Bloc – Warsaw

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Really?, come on!. i just can not believe the average Macedonian would fall for this. first the U.S sends its Albanian terrorist stooges into Macedonia spilling Macedonian blood for NATO's Geopolitical interest and now for some reason Macedonia should enslave itself to NATO's absolute rule?. at the least Macedonia has a score to settle with the West. they should just look to their South and North as examples what the EU/NATO does to countries that do not what they are told. they either get war (Serbia) or receive economic subjugation trough the ECB/IMF comparable to wartime conditions (Greece).

that polish defense minister is living in his own fairytale version and certainly on an Washington payrole for spewing such misguided garbage.

but on itself, this statement is just an desperate attempt meant to attempt to block the Russian pipeline project that is being constructed now trough Turkey and Greece.

the EU union is collapsing and can not maintain much longer its house build out of cards. it takes one to fall to cause an domino effect and see country's "defecting" towards Russia. Syriza is playing hard-ball with Brussels, Podemos is rising fast in Spain and Italy is pretty fed up too with Brussels. then you got the Slovakian PM that was pretty condemning verbally about EU sanctions....the list goes on.

i already said before, NATO lost its structure of "unity" some time ago. but the more NATO officials talk about war, the more NATO EU troops shift their opinions. seeing NATO is the only one talking about war while Russia and China are reserved in both strategic movements and political statements.

all the NATO mouthpieces can talk tough-talk against russia, it does not mean anything when more than half of EU's NATO forces perceive the U.S as its enemy to their own country's interests. and thats millitary-wide. airforce, army and navy. this is also confirmed recently by an poll among NATO country's in case of war with russia.

BTRfan wrote:

Is it possible for a Russian-German alliance to be achieved?

No.

Germans are fooled.