Russian Electronics: Semiconductor and Processors

Austin wrote:How good are these new processor developed in Russia ?

https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/106116/

Austin wrote:How good are these new processor developed in Russia ?

https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/106116/

miketheterrible wrote:

Austin wrote:How good are these new processor developed in Russia ?

https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/106116/

RISC are good for very specific tasks and mainframes (in the past at least, dunno about now). In terms of raw performance, it's nowhere near that of MCST other line using the Elbrus 2K architecture.  But of course this has much lower power usage plus decent performance.

miketheterrible wrote:Performance even in 64bit for Elbrus 2k architecture is still impressive.

What ways can they improve the performance of the 64bit?

Austin wrote:Just read that 90 % of Russian market is still US and western software giant only 10 % is Russian and these are defence industry.

So this is a great opportinity to replace these Western back door driven Western Software and Hardware with Russian ones.

I wonder why they did this since 2014 and waited till 2018

kvs wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Performance even in 64bit for Elbrus 2k architecture is still impressive.

What ways can they improve the performance of the 64bit?

It will come at the sacrifice of low power consumption and increase the size of the die through increase in the number of traces
(surface wiring in the IC).    If you look over the last 40 years we had this mixed approach at various stages 8/16 bit, 16/32 bit,
then 32 bit and finally full 64 bit (but for RAM it is not the full 64 since it is too much).    The Elbrus looks like a 32 bit design.  
But it must be able to access more than 4 gigabytes of RAM so it is probably over 32 bits in the addressing section.   For floating
point it just does 64 bit math using 32 bit stages and that doubles the execution time.  The Elbrus needs a vectorized FPU which
could handle 32, 64, 128 and 256 bits or more.   It can keep the rest of the architecture intact.  

It is a bit ironic that a VLIW CPU does not have a vectorized FPU.      

Austin wrote:Just read they have formed a committe on Counter Sanctions in State Duma and these folks will come with counter sanction by July.

It gives you an idea that Russian Legislator were not even seriously working on any counter sanctions till date since first major sanction came into effect in 2014 like 4 years back.
Now with RuAl and the latest sanction by Trump they suddenly woke up , What did the Russian Government did in last 4 years in preparing for counter sanctions.
US State Department has already list of sanctions prepared and all they need is presidential nod to put into effect.

miketheterrible wrote:I think the Loongsong processor is MIPS.

MIPS is a reduced instruction set computer (RISC) instruction set architecture

At the end of December 2017, samples of the MALT-C 9Mb96G microprocessor, the first MALT-C family chip manufactured in silicon by the 28 nm process, were obtained from the TSMC (Taiwan) factory . TSMC HPCPlus (high-performance computing). The processor contains 9 RISC general-purpose kernels and 96 specialized processor elements, united in three SIMD clusters of 32 elements each. The samples of the MALT-C 9Mb96G microprocessor successfully passed the input tests on test vectors on the FORMULA chip tester , showed the full compliance of the designed and achieved characteristics. So the total power consumption at the working frequency of 800 MHz was 1.0 W.

MALT-C is a family of microprocessors of Russian design for performing computationally complex crypto-transformations with marginal energy efficiency. The chip is built on the basis of domestic multi-core architecture . Thanks to the extremely successful C compiler, programming MALT-C 9Mb96G is not much more difficult than universal multi-core processors.

miketheterrible wrote:

In the Russian IP-PBX at the request of the military replaced the Intel "Elbrusy"

Microelectronics : Angstrem-T will start selling microelectronics to the Chinese

At SPIEF Angstrem-T will sign three contracts worth $ 36 million with Chinese Zhejiang Sirius Semiconductor Co Ltd for the supply of Russian microelectronics. The agreements are concluded for a period of 4 years with the possibility of prolongation. Source .

Angstrem-T in recent years has not looked like a successful venture. In 2017, production volumes were rumored to be 1-2 thousand plates 200 mm per year. The production base of Angstrem-T - acquired in 2007 from AMD line on the technology of 130 nm.

China, which absorbs up to 59% of all the chips produced in the world, is also interested in Russian microcircuits - for example, the Micron-VZPP-Mikron, Voronezh daughter supplies them.

A hard analysis of the case of Angstrem-T is available here .

Scientists begin to create the "physical" part of a quantum computer

MOSCOW, June 1 - RIA Novosti. The Quantum Consortium is starting to implement the "physical" part of the project to create a multi-qubit quantum computer, RIA Novosti was told by VEB Innovations.

As previously reported, the Scientific and Technical Council of the Foundation for Advanced Studies (FPI) approved a project to create a quantum computer in Russia in 2018-2021. Within the framework of the project in 2018-2021, it is planned to develop demonstrators of 50-qubit quantum computers based on neutral atoms and integrated optical circuits.
"The start of the project will be phased: at the moment, the" physical "part is being launched, which is planned to be implemented on the basis of the MV Lomonosov Moscow State University with the participation of Bauman Moscow State Technical University, the All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Automation, the Physical and Technical Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences and others with the support of FPI, "the company representative said.

According to him, it is about developing a demonstrator of an optical quantum simulator based on two main technologies for the implementation of quantum computers: based on photonic chips and neutral atoms.

"The project participants note that part of the technical tasks can be solved by purchasing foreign-made equipment, but the possibility of launching additional projects to develop and improve the domestic element base (for example, multi-channel single-photon superconductor detectors already produced in Russia) will be considered as a priority." - told in "VEB Innovations".

As clarified in the company, after the signing in February 2018 of a five-party agreement on the creation of a Russian multicubital quantum computer, the technical task of the project was specified. So, the scientific collectives of the Moscow State Technical University named after N.E. Bauman, St. Petersburg State University, Physical and Technical Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Skolkovo Institute of Science and Technology, All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Automation and others.
"In parallel, there will be an expansion of the consortium working on the creation of a Russian multicubital quantum computer - new participants from among interested consumers, research organizations and development institutions will join it," VEB Innovations reported.

As the project develops, Russian scientists will solve the scientific and applied tasks necessary to create and further operate a quantum computer-for example, the task of developing an online access and programming system for quantum computing devices, the development of photon detectors and various quantum algorithms.

The agreement on a scientific and technical project for the creation of a multicubital quantum computer was signed in February 2018 during the Russian Investment Forum in Sochi between Vnesheconombank, VEB Innovations, the Advanced Research Foundation, Moscow State University. Lomonosov and ANO "Digital Economy". The agreement was the basis for the formation of a quantum consortium, it is assumed that this format of interaction will allow a large number of Russian scientific teams, funding organizations and potential consumers to take part in the implementation of breakthrough projects in the field of quantum technologies.
Advantages of quantum computers are based on the fact that in them, not classical binary memory cells containing one bit of information are used to represent data, but the so-called qubit, quantum bit, which are quantum objects whose state is subject to the principle of quantum superposition and thus containing much more information.

The world scientific community considers various physical ways of realization of qubits: on the basis of superconducting elements, photons, ions and neutral atoms in magneto-optical traps, impurity centers in semiconductor and dielectric structures. Each of the investigated methods has certain advantages in improving certain characteristics of a quantum computer.

miketheterrible wrote:They manufactured their own motherboards for years but one of the needed materials was imported. Now it isn't.