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magnumcromagnon wrote:^^^
That the best you got? 8000+ Ukrainians are trapped in the cauldron, silly propaganda displays wont save their sorry rear-ends!
sepheronx wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:^^^
That the best you got? 8000+ Ukrainians are trapped in the cauldron, silly propaganda displays wont save their sorry rear-ends!
It is kinda sad how 1 tank is being used as propaganda when so many soldiers are trapped and just postponing their doom. I think it has already gotten to the people of Ukraine and only people like F-15 cannot are ones happy for such a situation. Sad and disgusting.
First of all, the notion as to where the eastern border of “united Ukraine” ought to be varies. Some said it should include the Kuban (Pavlo Shtepa), others saw it in the foothills of the Caucasus (Mykola Machnowski), others even extended Ukraine to the Caspian Sea (Stepan Rudnytsky). But nobody ever had any doubts where Ukraine’s western border ought to be: it was always the San river (Poland Territory).
If these territories are not adjoined into Ukraine it will not be possible to build a “unified great power Ukraine”, and it is precisely Ukraine as a “great power” that is the main and ultimate objective of Ukrainian nationalists and nationalism.
Nearly all the classics of Ukrainian nationalism see the western border Ukraine along the river San (in other words, on the territory of today’s Poland), and even though Dmytro Dontsov’s works call for the establishment of a Polish-Ukrainian alliance, even that alliance was to be temporary. As long as the nationalists were weak, Warsaw could have supported them, but only to the point that they would not fall, and not to the extent that they could stand on their own two feet. Warsaw’s own interest should mean keeping the Ukrainian nationalism under control and using it against Russia. Only when Ukrainian nationalism is made dependent on Poland it can bring Warsaw maximum strategic benefits.
Poland wasn’t always able to maintain this sort of balance. Whenever the scales tipped in favor of Ukrainian nationalism due to major historical shifts, Ukrainian nationalists would begin to kill Poles on a mass scale, as happened on the Volhyn in 1943.
All of this condemns Poland and Ukraine to a “rough friendship”. The Polish government, by supporting Ukrainian nationalism, is trying to walk on the edge of the razor without getting cut, in other words, to extract maximum benefits and incur no losses. Therefore Warsaw is eternally trying to balance its interests, and Polish diplomats are engaging in verbal acrobatics.
For example, when visiting Kiev, Polish officials are shouting “Glory to Ukraine, glory to heroes!” together with contemporary OUN-UPA supporters, while back in Warsaw they promise that they will protect the memory of the Poles murdered on the Volhyn. OUN-UPA are called criminal organizations in Poland, but at the UN Poland votes against the resolution conemning the hero-worship of Nazism, including in Ukraine. Poland mourns its victims of the Second World War, but at the same time the Baltic states, which see annual parades of old SS-men, are repeating that Poland is a faithful ally, and the pro-Nazi sympathies in Vilnius, Riga, and Tallinn are not an obstacle.
sepheronx wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:^^^
That the best you got? 8000+ Ukrainians are trapped in the cauldron, silly propaganda displays wont save their sorry rear-ends!
It is kinda sad how 1 tank is being used as propaganda when so many soldiers are trapped and just postponing their doom. I think it has already gotten to the people of Ukraine and only people like F-15 cannot are ones happy for such a situation. Sad and disgusting.
Vann7 wrote:
omg.. this channel is so funny.. people need to see this..
Updates with the Ukraine conflict.. and Lord of the Rings and the the Shadow of Ukraine.
higurashihougi wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but the vehicles in the image, if they are real, are not tanks. They are Akasiya SPG.
The New Ukraine Is Run by Rogues, Sexpots, Warlords, Lunatics and Oligarchs
Always thought that Yatsenyuk or whatever the name is looks like a mentally deranged paedophile. Just look at his mugshot.The New Ukraine Is Run by Rogues, Sexpots, Warlords, Lunatics and Oligarchs
Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:The "Situation in the Ukraine/Crimea *Photos - Videos* ONLY" thread at the MP.ret hasn't been updated for 17 hours.
I am sure you know what that means.
higurashihougi wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but the vehicles in the image, if they are real, are not tanks. They are Akasiya SPG.
Ukraine’s armed forces could call up female citizens of Ukraine aged between 20 and 50 to join the fight against pro-Russian separatists in the country’s eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, Vladislav Seleznev, spokesperson for the armed forces’ high command told Ukrainian news agency Unian today.
The former Soviet republic has been hard pressed for resources to combat the Russian-backed separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk since fighting erupted in the regions between the newly formed pro-EU government and pro-Russian groups a year ago.
medo wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-armed-forces-set-call-female-citizens-aged-20-50-new-recruitment-cycle-304276
Ukraine’s armed forces could call up female citizens of Ukraine aged between 20 and 50 to join the fight against pro-Russian separatists in the country’s eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, Vladislav Seleznev, spokesperson for the armed forces’ high command told Ukrainian news agency Unian today.
The former Soviet republic has been hard pressed for resources to combat the Russian-backed separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk since fighting erupted in the regions between the newly formed pro-EU government and pro-Russian groups a year ago.
Ukrainian army is planing to mobilize woman for Novorussian front. It seems they don't have enough male reservists to mobilize for war and have to mobilize females. Ukrainian army will soon be over.
Ukraine’s armed forces could call up female citizens of Ukraine aged between 20 and 50 to join the fight against pro-Russian separatists in the country’s eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, Vladislav Seleznev, spokesperson for the armed forces’ high command told Ukrainian news agency Unian today.
The former Soviet republic has been hard pressed for resources to combat the Russian-backed separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk since fighting erupted in the regions between the newly formed pro-EU government and pro-Russian groups a year ago.
F-15E wrote:russian terrorist shoots off his Kalashnikov,and then gets punched by his comrade
hahahaha
F-15E wrote:russian terrorist shoots off his Kalashnikov,and then gets punched by his comrade
hahahaha
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