Talking bollocks thread

zorobabel wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:
Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

What individual country has had more aviation accidents than Russia during the last 20 years?

I would bet all of my money that no one.

Go look.  I already gave the link.

did you know that Aeroflot has the highest safety ratings in the world? Bet you didn't.  But that is understandable, as this forums seems to be a centrifuge of morons who can post whatever drivel.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262867/fatal-civil-airliner-accidents-since-1945-by-country-and-region/

He said in the past 20 years. My guess is that it would either be Russia or Indonesia.

And you can break it down too.  Take a look at the other link from Wiki.  Breaks it down per years.  From 1994 to now, US still outdoes the Russians.

BTW, take a look at Aeroflots safety record now compared to before. During soviet union it was notorious for crashes. Now it is one of the safest in the world.

Kimppis wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

Oh, and BTW, the Egypt crash was due to Russian negligence. That plane was operating out of country that is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is rife with all manner of fanatical Islamic networks, during a time in which Russia was heavily conducting military operations in Syria. If Russia couldn't ensure adequate security in Egypt, then it had no business there.

This all stems from laxity and inattention. That is the root cause. How many excuses are you going to make? If blame is not properly assessed then there will be no improvement. The Russian authorities who should be handing this must "think" like you, if you want to characterize it as such.

More like the fault of the airport for not operating proper safety measures.  But of course, blame Russia for Egypts negligence.  Loser.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

And in your desperate attempt, try to use terrorism as an example.

I think you said that Russia doesn't have more crashes than the rest of the world combined. For individual countries Russia has by far the most crashes.

Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

Get a load of this guy, so full of insults for the intelligence of others.

1) List of the 25 geographical regions having the highest number of fatal civil airliner accidents from 1945 until now. Military accidents, corporate jets, hijackings (and other criminal occurrences) are not included:

http://aviation-safety.net/statistics/geographical/worst_geo_loc.php

Number 2 on the list? Soviet Union/Russia. You like data? Let's see you prove that this overall picture has improved since 1989. And, I'll state again, go back and review the infographic on the wikipedia page you posted. I do not believe you grasped its meaning.


2) List of countries with the highest number of airline passengers:

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-airline-passengers.html

Russia? Not even in the top 10. Sinking in yet?


None of this takes into account military passenger transport. I can well imagine that is not a particularly pretty picture either.

Okay, let's see your list of other countries that have recently lost an national heirloom such as the Red Army Choir in an air traffic accident, as has just happened today. That lineage is now likely broken. It is just fucking inexcusable.

What the fuck? How the hell is Russia not in top 10 and countries like Turkey and Indonesia is above it? :O Russia is the largest country in the world and their aviation traditions are immense. Turkey is poorer than Russia in every single way (although not massively so), its population is considerably smaller and its geographical is obviously much much smaller. Is it due to Russian railways or something? Otherwise I call BS on that, it simply doesn't include Russia at all.  

Russia actually has quite token amount of civilian flights compared to other countries. Check number of aircraft that operate in Russia and elsewhere for an example.

Few factors, railway, and very low internal movement of the people. Russians in general lack funds to fly and travel in general, especially people that do not live in major industrial centers. Lets say that average ticket is like 300 USD today, and you have 400-500 USD sallary. No way in hell you are going to fly 5 times a year.

So railway is still the most common mode of transportation?

Funny that no one has created a discount regional airliner yet. Or at least may have but gone belly up?

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

Oh, and BTW, the Egypt crash was due to Russian negligence. That plane was operating out of country that is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is rife with all manner of fanatical Islamic networks, during a time in which Russia was heavily conducting military operations in Syria. If Russia couldn't ensure adequate security in Egypt, then it had no business there.

This all stems from laxity and inattention. That is the root cause. How many excuses are you going to make? If blame is not properly assessed then there will be no improvement. The Russian authorities who should be handing this must "think" like you, if you want to characterize it as such.

Russia to provide security on Egyptian airport? How exactly? What you are suggesting is first of all aganist international law.

zorobabel wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:
Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

What individual country has had more aviation accidents than Russia during the last 20 years?

I would bet all of my money that no one.

Go look.  I already gave the link.

did you know that Aeroflot has the highest safety ratings in the world? Bet you didn't.  But that is understandable, as this forums seems to be a centrifuge of morons who can post whatever drivel.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262867/fatal-civil-airliner-accidents-since-1945-by-country-and-region/

He said in the past 20 years. My guess is that it would either be Russia or Indonesia.

Well and you can put the limit if you want in the 12-15-2016.

Take the numbers like they are not trying to put limits where there is not reason for it. 20 years is not even in many cases the lifetime in production of many aircrafts.

Some data for you, from aviation-safety.net:

Boeing 727

production: 1962-1984
units produced: 1832
deaths in accidents: 4260
rating death in accidents/units produced: 2.325
number of occurencies in the ASN database with deaths: 71 (from 1 to 167 deaths)
rating occurencies with deaths in the ASN database/units produced (%): 3.88%
hull loss occurences: 119
rating hull loss occurences/units produced (%): 6.50%
ocurrences in the ASN database: 343
rating occurrences in the ASN database/units produced (%): 18.72%


Tu-154

production: 1969-2013
units produced: 1026
deaths in accidents: 3007
rating death in accidents/units produced: 2.931
number of occurencies in the ASN database with deaths: 41 (from 1 to 200 deaths)
rating occurencies with deaths in the ASN database/units produced (%): 4.00%
hull loss occurences: 69  
rating hull loss occurences/units produced (%): 6.72%
ocurrences in the ASN database: 110
rating occurrences in the ASN database/units produced (%): 10.72%

Both aircrafts are almost of the same age and size, with the Tu-154 remaining longer in production, but with very low production since 1995
The Tu-154 has a bigger number of deaths by unit produced.
Both aircrafts are almost tied in the refered to the number of occurencies with deaths registered by the ASN.
While in the Boeing 727 the maximum number of deaths reach 167 (in accidents where all inside die) in the Tu-154 reachs 200, which explains bigger death ratings over a equivalent basis of number of accidents with deaths.
Both aircrafts are almost tied in the refered to the number of occurrencies with hull loss registered by the ASN.
Finally, the Boeign 727 has significantly higher rating of occurrencies refered to some problem registered in the databases. It would include small mechanic failures in events that cause not the lose of the aircraft. Bad for those that assure that the Tu-154 is a bad aircraft mechanically. Your conclussions about the Tu-154 are wrong.

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

Oh, and BTW, the Egypt crash was due to Russian negligence. That plane was operating out of country that is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is rife with all manner of fanatical Islamic networks, during a time in which Russia was heavily conducting military operations in Syria. If Russia couldn't ensure adequate security in Egypt, then it had no business there.

This all stems from laxity and inattention. That is the root cause. How many excuses are you going to make? If blame is not properly assessed then there will be no improvement. The Russian authorities who should be handing this must "think" like you, if you want to characterize it as such.

More like the fault of the airport for not operating proper safety measures.  But of course, blame Russia for Egypts negligence.  Loser.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

And in your desperate attempt, try to use terrorism as an example.

I think you said that Russia doesn't have more crashes than the rest of the world combined. For individual countries Russia has by far the most crashes.

Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

Get a load of this guy, so full of insults for the intelligence of others.

1) List of the 25 geographical regions having the highest number of fatal civil airliner accidents from 1945 until now. Military accidents, corporate jets, hijackings (and other criminal occurrences) are not included:

http://aviation-safety.net/statistics/geographical/worst_geo_loc.php

Number 2 on the list? Soviet Union/Russia. You like data? Let's see you prove that this overall picture has improved since 1989. And, I'll state again, go back and review the infographic on the wikipedia page you posted. I do not believe you grasped its meaning.


2) List of countries with the highest number of airline passengers:

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-airline-passengers.html

Russia? Not even in the top 10. Sinking in yet?


None of this takes into account military passenger transport. I can well imagine that is not a particularly pretty picture either.

Okay, let's see your list of other countries that have recently lost an national heirloom such as the Red Army Choir in an air traffic accident, as has just happened today. That lineage is now likely broken. It is just fucking inexcusable.

Oh, so being from the worst to second worst it sees.  So goalposts being moved?  Good job on your end.  Get a load of this guy.

I guess when you realised you were wrong, you decided to move goalposts around to try to save face.  Good job on that one.  No one even stated about aircraft loses with heirlooms.  You just added that one in.  Retard.  Funny too that you have to add in terrorist attacks as an example.  Kinda hard to compare when you know, Russia faces Islamic terrorism at extreme lengths compared to the other nations.  Even when one (such as you) add in the Egyptian example when you are too fucking stupid to realise that Egypt isnt Russia and it isn't Russia's job for Egypts security.

Okay, didn't really want to go this route, but what you wrote there really cements it; you are dense. You have proven your inability to deduce the cumulative meaning of two interrelated facts. Go sit again on the high stool in the corner with your pointed cap on and try again: Second highest total number of air traffic accidents with far from highest volume air passengers. No, still don't get it? Here's what it means -- Russia has the worst record of air traffic accidents, all things relevant considered.

BTW, it was not "Egypt's job." It was Russia's job. Russia needed to correctly assess and strengthen its security posture, given the situation at the time, not leave it to others to do so. Or, it should have suspended flights from that country altogether. It failed to do so. As a result, Russians, not Egyptians, died.

And, please try to be more inventive with your sarcasm, at least. Simply parroting mine speaks to a lack of imagination. Not that I'm surprised.

miketheterrible wrote:So railway is still the most common mode of transportation?

Funny that no one has created a discount regional airliner yet.  Or at least may have but gone belly up?

You have bunch of small airlines, that service flights on "local" lvl, mostly in Far East. Some like Aerolimousine, АЛРОСА, Ангара, Aviastar-TU and many other.

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

Oh, and BTW, the Egypt crash was due to Russian negligence. That plane was operating out of country that is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is rife with all manner of fanatical Islamic networks, during a time in which Russia was heavily conducting military operations in Syria. If Russia couldn't ensure adequate security in Egypt, then it had no business there.

This all stems from laxity and inattention. That is the root cause. How many excuses are you going to make? If blame is not properly assessed then there will be no improvement. The Russian authorities who should be handing this must "think" like you, if you want to characterize it as such.

More like the fault of the airport for not operating proper safety measures.  But of course, blame Russia for Egypts negligence.  Loser.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

And in your desperate attempt, try to use terrorism as an example.

I think you said that Russia doesn't have more crashes than the rest of the world combined. For individual countries Russia has by far the most crashes.

Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

Get a load of this guy, so full of insults for the intelligence of others.

1) List of the 25 geographical regions having the highest number of fatal civil airliner accidents from 1945 until now. Military accidents, corporate jets, hijackings (and other criminal occurrences) are not included:

http://aviation-safety.net/statistics/geographical/worst_geo_loc.php

Number 2 on the list? Soviet Union/Russia. You like data? Let's see you prove that this overall picture has improved since 1989. And, I'll state again, go back and review the infographic on the wikipedia page you posted. I do not believe you grasped its meaning.


2) List of countries with the highest number of airline passengers:

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-airline-passengers.html

Russia? Not even in the top 10. Sinking in yet?


None of this takes into account military passenger transport. I can well imagine that is not a particularly pretty picture either.

Okay, let's see your list of other countries that have recently lost an national heirloom such as the Red Army Choir in an air traffic accident, as has just happened today. That lineage is now likely broken. It is just fucking inexcusable.

Oh, so being from the worst to second worst it sees.  So goalposts being moved?  Good job on your end.  Get a load of this guy.

I guess when you realised you were wrong, you decided to move goalposts around to try to save face.  Good job on that one.  No one even stated about aircraft loses with heirlooms.  You just added that one in.  Retard.  Funny too that you have to add in terrorist attacks as an example.  Kinda hard to compare when you know, Russia faces Islamic terrorism at extreme lengths compared to the other nations.  Even when one (such as you) add in the Egyptian example when you are too fucking stupid to realise that Egypt isnt Russia and it isn't Russia's job for Egypts security.

Okay, didn't really want to go this route, but what you wrote there really cements it; you are dense. You have proven your inability to deduce the cumulative meaning of two interrelated facts. Go sit again on the high stool in the corner with your pointed cap on and try again: Second highest total number of air traffic accidents with far from highest volume air passengers. No, still don't get it? Here's what it means -- Russia has the worst record of air traffic accidents, all things relevant considered.

BTW, it was not "Egypt's job." It was Russia's job. Russia needed to correctly assess and heighten its security needs, given the situation at the time, not leave it to others to do so. Or, it should have suspended flights from that country altogether. It failed to do so. As a result, Russians, not Egyptians, died.

And, please try to be more inventive with your sarcasm, at least. Simply parroting mine speaks to a lack of imagination. Not that I'm surprised.

It was a jab at you.  And no, it isn't Russia's place for Egypts security - see militarov's comment.  You want to call me dense, it doesn't look good on you.  Even your "sarcasm" is pathetic in itself.  As I said, I threw it back in your face with my comment.  Doesn't even require lack of imagination to be able to tell if someone throws a comment right back at you.  But since I am the one that is dense, it does not speak volumes about yourself and where you fall under in a category (Troglodyte maybe?)

And I did agree with your other statement that it is a high number of crashes for less passengers.  But you are the one who moved goalposts from going to saying "worst ever" to being "second worst" for crashes.  This doesn't take into account number of passengers.

Since you want to cherry pick, maybe you and Vann7 should go 69 each other elsewhere.

Militarov wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:So railway is still the most common mode of transportation?

Funny that no one has created a discount regional airliner yet.  Or at least may have but gone belly up?

You have bunch of small airlines, that service flights on "local" lvl, mostly in Far East. Some like Aerolimousine, АЛРОСА, Ангара, Aviastar-TU and many other.

Thanks.

wow at this rate we will need another thread/topic on the plane crash and one on Russian plane crashes Vs. other countries

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

Oh, and BTW, the Egypt crash was due to Russian negligence. That plane was operating out of country that is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is rife with all manner of fanatical Islamic networks, during a time in which Russia was heavily conducting military operations in Syria. If Russia couldn't ensure adequate security in Egypt, then it had no business there.

This all stems from laxity and inattention. That is the root cause. How many excuses are you going to make? If blame is not properly assessed then there will be no improvement. The Russian authorities who should be handing this must "think" like you, if you want to characterize it as such.

More like the fault of the airport for not operating proper safety measures.  But of course, blame Russia for Egypts negligence.  Loser.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

And in your desperate attempt, try to use terrorism as an example.

I think you said that Russia doesn't have more crashes than the rest of the world combined. For individual countries Russia has by far the most crashes.

Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

Get a load of this guy, so full of insults for the intelligence of others.

1) List of the 25 geographical regions having the highest number of fatal civil airliner accidents from 1945 until now. Military accidents, corporate jets, hijackings (and other criminal occurrences) are not included:

http://aviation-safety.net/statistics/geographical/worst_geo_loc.php

Number 2 on the list? Soviet Union/Russia. You like data? Let's see you prove that this overall picture has improved since 1989. And, I'll state again, go back and review the infographic on the wikipedia page you posted. I do not believe you grasped its meaning.


2) List of countries with the highest number of airline passengers:

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-airline-passengers.html

Russia? Not even in the top 10. Sinking in yet?


None of this takes into account military passenger transport. I can well imagine that is not a particularly pretty picture either.

Okay, let's see your list of other countries that have recently lost an national heirloom such as the Red Army Choir in an air traffic accident, as has just happened today. That lineage is now likely broken. It is just fucking inexcusable.

Oh, so being from the worst to second worst it sees.  So goalposts being moved?  Good job on your end.  Get a load of this guy.

I guess when you realised you were wrong, you decided to move goalposts around to try to save face.  Good job on that one.  No one even stated about aircraft loses with heirlooms.  You just added that one in.  Retard.  Funny too that you have to add in terrorist attacks as an example.  Kinda hard to compare when you know, Russia faces Islamic terrorism at extreme lengths compared to the other nations.  Even when one (such as you) add in the Egyptian example when you are too fucking stupid to realise that Egypt isnt Russia and it isn't Russia's job for Egypts security.

Okay, didn't really want to go this route, but what you wrote there really cements it; you are dense. You have proven your inability to deduce the cumulative meaning of two interrelated facts. Go sit again on the high stool in the corner with your pointed cap on and try again: Second highest total number of air traffic accidents with far from highest volume air passengers. No, still don't get it? Here's what it means -- Russia has the worst record of air traffic accidents, all things relevant considered.

BTW, it was not "Egypt's job." It was Russia's job. Russia needed to correctly assess and heighten its security needs, given the situation at the time, not leave it to others to do so. Or, it should have suspended flights from that country altogether. It failed to do so. As a result, Russians, not Egyptians, died.

And, please try to be more inventive with your sarcasm, at least. Simply parroting mine speaks to a lack of imagination. Not that I'm surprised.

It was a jab at you.  And no, it isn't Russia's place for Egypts security - see militarov's comment.  You want to call me dense, it doesn't look good on you.  Even your "sarcasm" is pathetic in itself.  As I said, I threw it back in your face with my comment.  Doesn't even require lack of imagination to be able to tell if someone throws a comment right back at you.  But since I am the one that is dense, it does not speak volumes about yourself and where you fall under in a category (Troglodyte maybe?)

And I did agree with your other statement that it is a high number of crashes for less passengers.  But you are the one who moved goalposts from going to saying "worst ever" to being "second worst" for crashes.  This doesn't take into account number of passengers.

Since you want to cherry pick, maybe you and Vann7 should go 69 each other elsewhere.

Again, lack of imagination is not surprising. You do not have to take over another country's airport infrastructure to embed trained specialists into your own country's staff at that airport.

To your other,uh, point... I'd have to boot your fat ass out of the way to get to Vann's crank, and I'm disinterested. Invest in a trainer, if that is indeed your photo. Probably is. Atherosclerosis has affected your your feeble brain.

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

Oh, and BTW, the Egypt crash was due to Russian negligence. That plane was operating out of country that is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is rife with all manner of fanatical Islamic networks, during a time in which Russia was heavily conducting military operations in Syria. If Russia couldn't ensure adequate security in Egypt, then it had no business there.

This all stems from laxity and inattention. That is the root cause. How many excuses are you going to make? If blame is not properly assessed then there will be no improvement. The Russian authorities who should be handing this must "think" like you, if you want to characterize it as such.

More like the fault of the airport for not operating proper safety measures.  But of course, blame Russia for Egypts negligence.  Loser.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

And in your desperate attempt, try to use terrorism as an example.

I think you said that Russia doesn't have more crashes than the rest of the world combined. For individual countries Russia has by far the most crashes.

Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

Get a load of this guy, so full of insults for the intelligence of others.

1) List of the 25 geographical regions having the highest number of fatal civil airliner accidents from 1945 until now. Military accidents, corporate jets, hijackings (and other criminal occurrences) are not included:

http://aviation-safety.net/statistics/geographical/worst_geo_loc.php

Number 2 on the list? Soviet Union/Russia. You like data? Let's see you prove that this overall picture has improved since 1989. And, I'll state again, go back and review the infographic on the wikipedia page you posted. I do not believe you grasped its meaning.


2) List of countries with the highest number of airline passengers:

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-airline-passengers.html

Russia? Not even in the top 10. Sinking in yet?


None of this takes into account military passenger transport. I can well imagine that is not a particularly pretty picture either.

Okay, let's see your list of other countries that have recently lost an national heirloom such as the Red Army Choir in an air traffic accident, as has just happened today. That lineage is now likely broken. It is just fucking inexcusable.

Oh, so being from the worst to second worst it sees.  So goalposts being moved?  Good job on your end.  Get a load of this guy.

I guess when you realised you were wrong, you decided to move goalposts around to try to save face.  Good job on that one.  No one even stated about aircraft loses with heirlooms.  You just added that one in.  Retard.  Funny too that you have to add in terrorist attacks as an example.  Kinda hard to compare when you know, Russia faces Islamic terrorism at extreme lengths compared to the other nations.  Even when one (such as you) add in the Egyptian example when you are too fucking stupid to realise that Egypt isnt Russia and it isn't Russia's job for Egypts security.

Okay, didn't really want to go this route, but what you wrote there really cements it; you are dense. You have proven your inability to deduce the cumulative meaning of two interrelated facts. Go sit again on the high stool in the corner with your pointed cap on and try again: Second highest total number of air traffic accidents with far from highest volume air passengers. No, still don't get it? Here's what it means -- Russia has the worst record of air traffic accidents, all things relevant considered.

BTW, it was not "Egypt's job." It was Russia's job. Russia needed to correctly assess and heighten its security needs, given the situation at the time, not leave it to others to do so. Or, it should have suspended flights from that country altogether. It failed to do so. As a result, Russians, not Egyptians, died.

And, please try to be more inventive with your sarcasm, at least. Simply parroting mine speaks to a lack of imagination. Not that I'm surprised.

It was a jab at you.  And no, it isn't Russia's place for Egypts security - see militarov's comment.  You want to call me dense, it doesn't look good on you.  Even your "sarcasm" is pathetic in itself.  As I said, I threw it back in your face with my comment.  Doesn't even require lack of imagination to be able to tell if someone throws a comment right back at you.  But since I am the one that is dense, it does not speak volumes about yourself and where you fall under in a category (Troglodyte maybe?)

And I did agree with your other statement that it is a high number of crashes for less passengers.  But you are the one who moved goalposts from going to saying "worst ever" to being "second worst" for crashes.  This doesn't take into account number of passengers.

Since you want to cherry pick, maybe you and Vann7 should go 69 each other elsewhere.

Again, lack of imagination is not surprising. You do not have to take over another country's airport infrastructure to embed trained specialists into your own country's staff at that airport.

To your other,uh, point... I'd have to boot your fat ass out of the way to get to Vann's crank, and I'm disinterested. Invest in a trainer, if that is indeed your photo. Probably is. Atherosclerosis has affected your your feeble brain.

Your shit ability to insult and not being able to distinguish the photo in my pic as a known meme, then you are either young or fucking stupid.  Which judging by your ability to not understand international law, indicates that I am correct on the last part.

Thanks for wasting my fucking time.  Good riddance to you.  

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

Oh, and BTW, the Egypt crash was due to Russian negligence. That plane was operating out of country that is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is rife with all manner of fanatical Islamic networks, during a time in which Russia was heavily conducting military operations in Syria. If Russia couldn't ensure adequate security in Egypt, then it had no business there.

This all stems from laxity and inattention. That is the root cause. How many excuses are you going to make? If blame is not properly assessed then there will be no improvement. The Russian authorities who should be handing this must "think" like you, if you want to characterize it as such.

More like the fault of the airport for not operating proper safety measures.  But of course, blame Russia for Egypts negligence.  Loser.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

And in your desperate attempt, try to use terrorism as an example.

I think you said that Russia doesn't have more crashes than the rest of the world combined. For individual countries Russia has by far the most crashes.

Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

Get a load of this guy, so full of insults for the intelligence of others.

1) List of the 25 geographical regions having the highest number of fatal civil airliner accidents from 1945 until now. Military accidents, corporate jets, hijackings (and other criminal occurrences) are not included:

http://aviation-safety.net/statistics/geographical/worst_geo_loc.php

Number 2 on the list? Soviet Union/Russia. You like data? Let's see you prove that this overall picture has improved since 1989. And, I'll state again, go back and review the infographic on the wikipedia page you posted. I do not believe you grasped its meaning.


2) List of countries with the highest number of airline passengers:

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-airline-passengers.html

Russia? Not even in the top 10. Sinking in yet?


None of this takes into account military passenger transport. I can well imagine that is not a particularly pretty picture either.

Okay, let's see your list of other countries that have recently lost an national heirloom such as the Red Army Choir in an air traffic accident, as has just happened today. That lineage is now likely broken. It is just fucking inexcusable.

Oh, so being from the worst to second worst it sees.  So goalposts being moved?  Good job on your end.  Get a load of this guy.

I guess when you realised you were wrong, you decided to move goalposts around to try to save face.  Good job on that one.  No one even stated about aircraft loses with heirlooms.  You just added that one in.  Retard.  Funny too that you have to add in terrorist attacks as an example.  Kinda hard to compare when you know, Russia faces Islamic terrorism at extreme lengths compared to the other nations.  Even when one (such as you) add in the Egyptian example when you are too fucking stupid to realise that Egypt isnt Russia and it isn't Russia's job for Egypts security.

Okay, didn't really want to go this route, but what you wrote there really cements it; you are dense. You have proven your inability to deduce the cumulative meaning of two interrelated facts. Go sit again on the high stool in the corner with your pointed cap on and try again: Second highest total number of air traffic accidents with far from highest volume air passengers. No, still don't get it? Here's what it means -- Russia has the worst record of air traffic accidents, all things relevant considered.

BTW, it was not "Egypt's job." It was Russia's job. Russia needed to correctly assess and heighten its security needs, given the situation at the time, not leave it to others to do so. Or, it should have suspended flights from that country altogether. It failed to do so. As a result, Russians, not Egyptians, died.

And, please try to be more inventive with your sarcasm, at least. Simply parroting mine speaks to a lack of imagination. Not that I'm surprised.

It was a jab at you.  And no, it isn't Russia's place for Egypts security - see militarov's comment.  You want to call me dense, it doesn't look good on you.  Even your "sarcasm" is pathetic in itself.  As I said, I threw it back in your face with my comment.  Doesn't even require lack of imagination to be able to tell if someone throws a comment right back at you.  But since I am the one that is dense, it does not speak volumes about yourself and where you fall under in a category (Troglodyte maybe?)

And I did agree with your other statement that it is a high number of crashes for less passengers.  But you are the one who moved goalposts from going to saying "worst ever" to being "second worst" for crashes.  This doesn't take into account number of passengers.

Since you want to cherry pick, maybe you and Vann7 should go 69 each other elsewhere.

Again, lack of imagination is not surprising. You do not have to take over another country's airport infrastructure to embed trained specialists into your own country's staff at that airport.

To your other,uh, point... I'd have to boot your fat ass out of the way to get to Vann's crank, and I'm disinterested. Invest in a trainer, if that is indeed your photo. Probably is. Atherosclerosis has affected your your feeble brain.

Your shit ability to insult and not being able to distinguish the photo in my pic as a known meme, then you are either young or fucking stupid.  Which judging by your ability to not understand international law, indicates that I am correct on the last part.

Thanks for wasting my fucking time.  Good riddance to you.  

Well, good choice in meme selection, asshole. It accurately reflects your slovenly mindset. You can have the last say, if you choose to. Good riddance indeed.

Militarov wrote:

Kimppis wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

Oh, and BTW, the Egypt crash was due to Russian negligence. That plane was operating out of country that is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is rife with all manner of fanatical Islamic networks, during a time in which Russia was heavily conducting military operations in Syria. If Russia couldn't ensure adequate security in Egypt, then it had no business there.

This all stems from laxity and inattention. That is the root cause. How many excuses are you going to make? If blame is not properly assessed then there will be no improvement. The Russian authorities who should be handing this must "think" like you, if you want to characterize it as such.

More like the fault of the airport for not operating proper safety measures.  But of course, blame Russia for Egypts negligence.  Loser.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

And in your desperate attempt, try to use terrorism as an example.

I think you said that Russia doesn't have more crashes than the rest of the world combined. For individual countries Russia has by far the most crashes.

Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

Get a load of this guy, so full of insults for the intelligence of others.

1) List of the 25 geographical regions having the highest number of fatal civil airliner accidents from 1945 until now. Military accidents, corporate jets, hijackings (and other criminal occurrences) are not included:

http://aviation-safety.net/statistics/geographical/worst_geo_loc.php

Number 2 on the list? Soviet Union/Russia. You like data? Let's see you prove that this overall picture has improved since 1989. And, I'll state again, go back and review the infographic on the wikipedia page you posted. I do not believe you grasped its meaning.


2) List of countries with the highest number of airline passengers:

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-airline-passengers.html

Russia? Not even in the top 10. Sinking in yet?


None of this takes into account military passenger transport. I can well imagine that is not a particularly pretty picture either.

Okay, let's see your list of other countries that have recently lost an national heirloom such as the Red Army Choir in an air traffic accident, as has just happened today. That lineage is now likely broken. It is just fucking inexcusable.

What the fuck? How the hell is Russia not in top 10 and countries like Turkey and Indonesia is above it? :O Russia is the largest country in the world and their aviation traditions are immense. Turkey is poorer than Russia in every single way (although not massively so), its population is considerably smaller and its geographical is obviously much much smaller. Is it due to Russian railways or something? Otherwise I call BS on that, it simply doesn't include Russia at all.  

Russia actually has quite token amount of civilian flights compared to other countries. Check number of aircraft that operate in Russia and elsewhere for an example.

Few factors, railway, and very low internal movement of the people. Russians in general lack funds to fly and travel in general, especially people that do not live in major industrial centers. Lets say that average ticket is like 300 USD today, and you have 400-500 USD sallary. No way in hell you are going to fly 5 times a year.

Actually Russian aviation is a victim of current RUB disaster. RU air travel is still worth 77 million people. 2013 it was worth 106 million. Turkey air trafic is over 43 million worth with the rest being international travellers.

BKP wrote:Again, lack of imagination is not surprising. You do not have to take over another country's airport infrastructure to embed trained specialists into your own country's staff at that airport.

To your other,uh, point... I'd have to boot your fat ass out of the way to get to Vann's crank, and I'm disinterested. Invest in a trainer, if that is indeed your photo. Probably is. Atherosclerosis has affected your your feeble brain.

Airport security of the host country is responsible for all the security on the airport, from the brawls in front of the airport to luggage control. How are Russians supposed to check luggage exactly? Luggage goes though checks and scanners long before passengers ever come to Aeroflot lounge area (if it even exists on airport in question) and is being loaded on the aircraft. What are they actually supposed to do?

I am just asking that simple question, what are they in your mind supposed to do, how does that control looks. Coz that is something unheard of.

You have US Air Marshals for an example but they are Federal agency so they are not suitable for something of a sort either.

KoTeMoRe wrote:Actually Russian aviation is a victim of current RUB disaster. RU air travel is still worth 77 million people. 2013 it was worth 106 million. Turkey air trafic is over 43 million worth with the rest being international travellers.

US for an example this year had 716 million domestic passengers. The difference is huge.

Airliners will probably find ways to reduce cost of tickets over time since volume is important to them.

But since they mostly buy foreign jets, with the ruble devaluation, does cut into their purchases and abilities to obtain spare parts.  Overall, increasing cost of tickets.

In comparison, what is a cost of train tickets? Probably significantly cheaper. Complete opposite in Canada.

Militarov wrote:

Kimppis wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

Oh, and BTW, the Egypt crash was due to Russian negligence. That plane was operating out of country that is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is rife with all manner of fanatical Islamic networks, during a time in which Russia was heavily conducting military operations in Syria. If Russia couldn't ensure adequate security in Egypt, then it had no business there.

This all stems from laxity and inattention. That is the root cause. How many excuses are you going to make? If blame is not properly assessed then there will be no improvement. The Russian authorities who should be handing this must "think" like you, if you want to characterize it as such.

More like the fault of the airport for not operating proper safety measures.  But of course, blame Russia for Egypts negligence.  Loser.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

BKP wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Egypt plane crash was a terrorist attack numb nuts.  Also, I proved you wrong.  The link I posted goes to 2016 if you have the failures to read.

So seriously, provide an apology.  Because your Vann7 drivel just made us a little bit more dumb thanks to you

You didn't "prove' shit! What part of "jump in a lake fatboy" did you not comprehend?

I did.  You are just too stupid to read.

You said Russia has the most crashes.  I proved you wrong.  Good job being too stupid to realize it.

And in your desperate attempt, try to use terrorism as an example.

I think you said that Russia doesn't have more crashes than the rest of the world combined. For individual countries Russia has by far the most crashes.

Thanks for proving nothing.  Please provide data to back that up.  I have already.  So far, I am one of the only people who has provided any kind of backup data and not pure bullshit and opinions.

Get a load of this guy, so full of insults for the intelligence of others.

1) List of the 25 geographical regions having the highest number of fatal civil airliner accidents from 1945 until now. Military accidents, corporate jets, hijackings (and other criminal occurrences) are not included:

http://aviation-safety.net/statistics/geographical/worst_geo_loc.php

Number 2 on the list? Soviet Union/Russia. You like data? Let's see you prove that this overall picture has improved since 1989. And, I'll state again, go back and review the infographic on the wikipedia page you posted. I do not believe you grasped its meaning.


2) List of countries with the highest number of airline passengers:

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-number-of-airline-passengers.html

Russia? Not even in the top 10. Sinking in yet?


None of this takes into account military passenger transport. I can well imagine that is not a particularly pretty picture either.

Okay, let's see your list of other countries that have recently lost an national heirloom such as the Red Army Choir in an air traffic accident, as has just happened today. That lineage is now likely broken. It is just fucking inexcusable.

What the fuck? How the hell is Russia not in top 10 and countries like Turkey and Indonesia is above it? :O Russia is the largest country in the world and their aviation traditions are immense. Turkey is poorer than Russia in every single way (although not massively so), its population is considerably smaller and its geographical is obviously much much smaller. Is it due to Russian railways or something? Otherwise I call BS on that, it simply doesn't include Russia at all.  

Russia actually has quite token amount of civilian flights compared to other countries. Check number of aircraft that operate in Russia and elsewhere for an example.

Few factors, railway, and very low internal movement of the people. Russians in general lack funds to fly and travel in general, especially people that do not live in major industrial centers. Lets say that average ticket is like 300 USD today, and you have 400-500 USD sallary. No way in hell you are going to fly 5 times a year.

Makes sense, I guess. And I just noticed that as an example a country like France is not on the list but Ireland is, so it includes stopovers (or whatever the term is) and intercontinental flights from NA to EU (Ireland) and like from EU to Asia (Turkey) (obviously I guess, but I'm not expert on the subject in any way).

Countries like Turkey, Brazil, Indonesia or heck, even China (in nominal terms, before the devaluation) don't have higher salaries than an average Russian. And I thought that Russian internal flights would be pretty cheap.

I'd really like to see the number of fatalities for Russian airliners per capita vs. other countries from like 2011-16.

miketheterrible wrote:Airliners will probably find ways to reduce cost of tickets over time since volume is important to them.

But since they mostly buy foreign jets, with the ruble devaluation, does cut into their purchases and abilities to obtain spare parts.  Overall, increasing cost of tickets.

In comparison, what is a cost of train tickets?  Probably significantly cheaper.  Complete opposite in Canada.

Fast train Sapsan line from Moscow to St Peterburg costs about 90euros for 2 way ticket. Beijing to Moscow is about 600. Moscow-Vladivostok for second class is just above 300.

It seems that Israel attacked the Syrian SA-10/12/20/23 S-300 in the last attack to their air base near Damascus.

And the rare species of "pro-Russian" people here remains silent.

Something to say about?

eehnie wrote:It seems that Israel attacked the Syrian SA-10/12/20/23 S-300 in the last attack to their air base near Damascus.

And the rare species of "pro-Russian" people here remains silent.

Something to say about?

To say about what? Which one did the 6 Israeli planes attacked first, the 10/12/20/23....Also 300 why not 3000.

Welcome to my ignore list, you'll be 2 with the other chinese bot.

eehnie wrote:It seems that Israel attacked the Syrian SA-10/12/20/23 S-300 in the last attack to their air base near Damascus.

And the rare species of "pro-Russian" people here remains silent.

Something to say about?

Syria doesn't have S-300. The only S-300/400 in Syria are Russian to protect Russian assets. Syria has to protect its own airspace as well since they have buk and pantsir.

Please, don't lie to us. We are not stupid like typical f-16.net posters.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

eehnie wrote:It seems that Israel attacked the Syrian SA-10/12/20/23 S-300 in the last attack to their air base near Damascus.

And the rare species of "pro-Russian" people here remains silent.

Something to say about?

To say about what? Which one did the 6 Israeli planes attacked first, the 10/12/20/23....Also 300 why not 3000.

Welcome to my ignore list, you'll be 2 with the other chinese bot.

Do not you know that the SA-10, SA-12, SA-20 and SA-23 are all S-300 variants? Do you have some problem with the notation? Is your problem.

Your ignore list is also your problem.

Chinese? Noski baietz, txinatar guztiek hitzegingo dizute euskaraz, errez gainera, arazorik gabe. I'm what I say, I'm Basque but what are you? a "pro-Russian" zionist?

Jus I was expecting some kind of defense of Israel from you, as I saw you using before a Jewish term like "Kosher", one of the few that I can identify:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Nope first images are not Kosher. The Mil Mi pictures are doctored. Crocodile 1 and 2 is the same helicopter and has been added on runway, probably the two others as well from previous satellite pictures. What happened on the Tarmac and on the HAS behind is still completely TBD. Also I don't see any Russian military truck on the HAS. I see AFV trailers...Also this is a 30/50m def of the area, not high def...the pictures from Digital Globe are clearly "special"...Google has 10m def but it dates from February this year...

Last edited by KoTeMoRe on Wed May 25, 2016 2:01 pm; edited 1 time in total

https://www.russiadefence.net/t5141p575-russian-military-involvement-and-aid-to-syria-9#164886

You are just one of these rare "pro-Russian" species. Maybe you deserve to be in someones else ignore list.

miketheterrible wrote:

eehnie wrote:It seems that Israel attacked the Syrian SA-10/12/20/23 S-300 in the last attack to their air base near Damascus.

And the rare species of "pro-Russian" people here remains silent.

Something to say about?

Syria doesn't have S-300. The only S-300/400 in Syria are Russian to protect Russian assets. Syria has to protect its own airspace as well since they have buk and pantsir.

Please, don't lie to us. We are not stupid like typical f-16.net posters.

I do not know the F-16. net posters because I have 0 interest in the F-16.

Just curious to see you proud of your own knowledge showing at same time as small knowledge of what we are talking about.

Public report about the delivery to Syria of S-300 by Russia:

https://www.rt.com/news/361586-russia-s300-supplied-syria/

Public report about a previous attack of Israel to S-300 in Syria with public declarations of Israeli rulers:

https://realrussiatoday.com/2015/12/13/israel-destroyed-several-russian-s-300-missile-systems-in-syria/

Syria doesn't have any S-300. Syrian territorial air defense have S-75 (SAM-2), S-125 (SAM-3) and S-200 (SAM-5) complexes. Of the new complexes, Russia deliver to Syrian army Buk-M1/M2 and Pantsir-S1.

Iran is the one, who receive S-300 from Russia.

From Russia with love;

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2380174.html