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A third side mercenaries.. provoking the Ukrainians Army and Novosiya to fight..
just like in kiev.. anyone remember the kiev snipers firing both sides? This looks like a
classic CIA operation.
http://tass.ru/en/world/790241
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The Situation in the Ukraine. #12
Vann7- Posts : 5385
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A third side mercenaries.. provoking the Ukrainians Army and Novosiya to fight..
just like in kiev.. anyone remember the kiev snipers firing both sides? This looks like a
classic CIA operation.
http://tass.ru/en/world/790241
TR1- Posts : 5435
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Big_Gazza wrote:
P.S what's with the "degenerate trifecta" shit? I generally like your combative against-the-current style as it counterbalances the more frothy Russia-stronk posters (who have a valid point of view in many cases) but this "degenerate" crap? Mate, you've lost me on this one...
Speaks for itself doesn't it?
3 gross symbols of Russia I can't stand.
Especially funny since Putin gets loved here while Yeltsin is hated.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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magnumcromagnon wrote:TR1 wrote:Yeah, "Ruskaya Sila" sounds like a legit source.
*Facepalm* Leave it to this imbecile to act like rape in US military circles isn't a epidemic, btw in the year 2011 at least 3,192 cases of sexual assault was reported in the US military, and he DoD estimates that in 2010 alone, over 19,000 sexual assaults occurred in the military:
A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military
Prove that Ruskaya Sila claim is true, you intellectual midget. Find any reputable source that corroborates it.
Typical asinine rant that has NOTHING to do with what I said.
In Russia, rape victims have even less support than in the US.
So I really would not go in that direction if I were you.
GarryB- Posts : 40580
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Oh, how I wish that drone had a quad pack of 9M120 Ataka anti-tank missiles.....
I was thinking when I was watching it it could do with auto target tracking software and smoother camera movements/zoom.
magnumcromagnon I have asked nicely by private message, now I am telling you to modify your signature or there will be problems between you an I which will likely result in you getting banned for a couple of days.
GarryB
Prove that Ruskaya Sila claim is true, you intellectual midget. If you want to be respected, you have to give respect. Bullying others because they don't agree with you will not end well. It creates arguments from discussions.
US service personnel have a strong record of sexual assault everywhere they are deployed and US military policy seems to match that of the Catholic Church... just move the offenders somewhere else and pretend it never happened. If it isn't true yet it will be... it is only a matter of time sadly.
magnumcromagnon- Posts : 8138
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TR1 wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:TR1 wrote:Yeah, "Ruskaya Sila" sounds like a legit source.
*Facepalm* Leave it to this imbecile to act like rape in US military circles isn't a epidemic, btw in the year 2011 at least 3,192 cases of sexual assault was reported in the US military, and he DoD estimates that in 2010 alone, over 19,000 sexual assaults occurred in the military:
A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military
Prove that Ruskaya Sila claim is true, you intellectual midget. Find any reputable source that corroborates it.
Typical asinine rant that has NOTHING to do with what I said.
In Russia, rape victims have even less support than in the US.
So I really would not go in that direction if I were you.
LOL got a tryhard an a internet badass heated, looks like your usual micro-penis measurement, this is the same guy who clutches your you nano-meter thin straws for every claim you make, and rarely post actual sources. Claims like the Russian military mismanaged more money than the US military which mismanaged 8 trillion, yet you never provided a single shred of evidence that they mismanaged more.
The evidence for widespread and hushed rape cases in US military circles was already provided, so the story is believable enough, you would actually know that if you had any reading comprehension, but seeing how you constantly break the rules on the forum such as = linking to other forums, it's proof enough that you lack basic English literacy.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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Good god. What a childish post full of tripe. Bringing up wasted Pentagon money is really relevant...also funny since you keep showing you have not a clue what "unaccounted" means in that context.
All that because anyone with half a set of brains can tell "Ruskaya Sila" is pulling things out of its rear.
Lmao. Go ahead. Keep defending what is obvious baloney.
But but buhhh teh US military rapes111!!!!
What a terrible comeback. Good grief.
All that because anyone with half a set of brains can tell "Ruskaya Sila" is pulling things out of its rear.
Lmao. Go ahead. Keep defending what is obvious baloney.
But but buhhh teh US military rapes111!!!!
What a terrible comeback. Good grief.
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http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/another-batch-of-russian-military-equipment-up-to-250-servicemen-cross-ukraines-border-386383.html
Oh shit!
This source said so, it must be true!
Russia's terrorism confirmed!
It seems believable after all!
Our little friend Magnum's logic at work.
Oh shit!
This source said so, it must be true!
Russia's terrorism confirmed!
It seems believable after all!
Our little friend Magnum's logic at work.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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KomissarBojanchev wrote:Crabshell ERA layout blurred photos=////////= T-72B3TR1 wrote:sepheronx wrote:So if it is easy to identify them, how come French intelligence agencies denies Russian involvement and how come Poroshenko has had great difficulty exposing the others like the passport photograph he had and failed to provide copies around? OSCE said they cant find anything either.
Curious really, cause if the evidence was this easy, it would be paraded around a heck of a lot more since that is what Poroshenko does (since he has so far failed miserably as a president).
Not denying just curious. As well, the Russian gov would make it too easy so that denying it would be hars, they are not that stupid.
If true, sucks. They should be sending over just equipment and training personnell.
T-72B3s don't lie.
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How are those blindfolds working for ya?
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=224675&d=1409402036
Sooooo blurry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C03P6iwjZ8E
Omg this video is so burry I can't make the obvious out!
higurashihougi
higurashihougi- Posts : 3421
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TR1 wrote:Big_Gazza wrote:TR1 wrote:Yeah, "Ruskaya Sila" sounds like a legit source.
Says the guy with the "degenerate trifecta" signature... Let he who is without close-minded bias cast the first stone....
Do you honestly believe that "news" report?
Really?
I would like to hear your detailed explanation and elaboration about that issue.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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higurashihougi wrote:TR1 wrote:Big_Gazza wrote:TR1 wrote:Yeah, "Ruskaya Sila" sounds like a legit source.
Says the guy with the "degenerate trifecta" signature... Let he who is without close-minded bias cast the first stone....
Do you honestly believe that "news" report?
Really?
I would like to hear your detailed explanation and elaboration about that issue.
What is there to explain?
A single source that goes to "Ruskaya Sila" , a no name Russian "news service".
No other mention of this anywhere that would even remotely pass for "news".
Like I said, do you believe everything that comes out in Ukrainian media about Russia? No, of course you don't, you dismiss 99% of it out of hand.
This is no different. Obvious bullshit story meant as cheap propaganda.
And its not even good propaganda. If there was an ounce of possibility that this was true, the major RUssian news sites would all be parroting this. They are not. Makes one think, no?
GarryB- Posts : 40580
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And its not even good propaganda. If there was an ounce of possibility that this was true, the major RUssian news sites would all be parroting this. They are not. Makes one think, no?
So the major Russian news agencies don't parrot this even though it would make the US look bad.
Shame western media are not so disciplined.
Werewolf- Posts : 5931
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TR1 wrote:Big_Gazza wrote:
P.S what's with the "degenerate trifecta" shit? I generally like your combative against-the-current style as it counterbalances the more frothy Russia-stronk posters (who have a valid point of view in many cases) but this "degenerate" crap? Mate, you've lost me on this one...
Speaks for itself doesn't it?
3 gross symbols of Russia I can't stand.
Especially funny since Putin gets loved here while Yeltsin is hated.
Nobody gives a damn what you can't stand you are no russian and over 80% of russians support a domecratic elected leader who is doing exactly the oppossite of what enemies like you want to see russia as a puppet shithole but it is a thriving with more democracy and press freedom than anywhere in this shithole west were every press is controlled.
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Werewolf wrote:TR1 wrote:Big_Gazza wrote:
P.S what's with the "degenerate trifecta" shit? I generally like your combative against-the-current style as it counterbalances the more frothy Russia-stronk posters (who have a valid point of view in many cases) but this "degenerate" crap? Mate, you've lost me on this one...
Speaks for itself doesn't it?
3 gross symbols of Russia I can't stand.
Especially funny since Putin gets loved here while Yeltsin is hated.
Nobody gives a damn what you can't stand you are no russian and over 80% of russians support a domecratic elected leader who is doing exactly the oppossite of what enemies like you want to see russia as a puppet shithole but it is a thriving with more democracy and press freedom than anywhere in this shithole west were every press is controlled.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaahhaah.
Thank you, I needed that.
Werewolf- Posts : 5931
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Yes, press freedom and democracy in russia is by far higher standards than anywhere else. The EU the so called democracy has leaders that were appointed to their position and never voted and never will be voted, our so called "elected leaders" are just puppets of Goldman sucks and Washington they push for further IMF hegemony. While Russian media isn't controlled like is in our so "free loving" western countries where Press TV has been banned from Hotbird satellites so that europe can not get Press TV over satellite/cable TV and where our so free and journalistic press is constantly calling the only single one russian media that is shown rarely in our so free west a "Propaganda Bullhorn" funded by the government, while our Press is so free and not funded by the government right? 8.3 bln Euro for german ARD/ZDF and all sub-state propaganda, BBC every british citizen has to pay annually for it (state funded) CNN,FOX (Vice News), MSNBC and so on are all state funded while at the same time where only one russian news network is present in the west there are over 700 news letters, medias in Moscow alone and are not banned by Russia what a dictatorship this "shithole"...
You just parrot the same garbage every Fox News american watcher is hearing, exactly the same nonsense.
You just parrot the same garbage every Fox News american watcher is hearing, exactly the same nonsense.
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Let's take a break with some humors...
May be it's proof of "Russian aggression".
May be it's proof of "Russian aggression".
Werewolf- Posts : 5931
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higurashihougi wrote:Let's take a break with some humors...
May be it's proof of "Russian aggression".
They would spin it around like they did with Crimean referendum, portraying it in our "freedom and democracy loving" west that the crimeans could only vote for Russian Federation and no other option, completley ignoring the option according to 1992 statute as part of Ukraine.
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Anyone who claims that the western media is free after it routinely parrots Kiev regime propaganda without any effort at
fact checking and at the same time systematically ignores Kiev regime war crimes is either a certifiable idiot or malicious.
In the case of TR1 it is both.
fact checking and at the same time systematically ignores Kiev regime war crimes is either a certifiable idiot or malicious.
In the case of TR1 it is both.
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TR1 wrote:Good god. What a childish post full of tripe. Bringing up wasted Pentagon money is really relevant...also funny since you keep showing you have not a clue what "unaccounted" means in that context.
All that because anyone with half a set of brains can tell "Ruskaya Sila" is pulling things out of its rear.
Lmao. Go ahead. Keep defending what is obvious baloney.
But but buhhh teh US military rapes111!!!!
What a terrible comeback. Good grief.
LOL butthurt and crying after you haven't provided a single shred of evidence to prove your point like always that it wasn't true, so instead of snorting lines of your own dried semen go ahead provide the counter evidence asswipe lol!
I have told you via PM and on the open forum to modify your signature and it seems you either haven't noticed or are ignoring me. I am sure two days off will attract your attention. GarryB
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TR1 wrote:Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaahhaah.
Thank you, I needed that.
Actually the Western democracy is not all that happy, either. The Western oligarch's dictactorship is more well-covered, not that the West has more democracy.
For example like how the US oligarchs control BOTH the goverments and the NGOs and private organization, and almost all media are controlled by a few US billionaire... sometimes the US oligarchs create a drama of goverment vs NGOs for the people to believe that US has democracy... which is not, because both NGOs and goverments are just tool of the same oligarchs.
The dangerous traits of Western dictactorship is that, its people does not even realize that they are living under a dictactorship.
I respect your pessimitism and your mistrust about Russian goverment but I don't think Western goverment is better.
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kvs wrote:Anyone who claims that the western media is free after it routinely parrots Kiev regime propaganda without any effort at
fact checking and at the same time systematically ignores Kiev regime war crimes is either a certifiable idiot or malicious.
In the case of TR1 it is both.
What I find most disturbing is how this pseudo-humanitarian and holier-than-thou charlatan, his smug contempt for all the widespread rape under the Pentagon's watch. He didn't give two shits about the epidemic of rape, just like he admitted he didn't give two shits about the 1.5 million dead Iraqis...
Even crazier is that he didn't provide a single shred counter-evidence, while making a fallacious strawman of false equivalency argument claiming 'sexual assaults in Russian military circles were worse' and SURPRISE he made the claim without actually providing a single shred of evidence there either.
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Guys you are all Kremlin bots and conspiracy theorists, Western Media is free and has no shills!!!!
That is beccause he is an american, living by the maxim "all lies from Russia" and "we say only the truth". Not once he has ever said anything about the uncountable dictatorships we have in the west and terrorism, war of drugs, war of hegemony and war of propaganda, but it is of course only Kremlin that controls Media, while we have freedom lovers and democracy.
Money does not make democracy it makes kleptocracy, when the few rich are the one that benefit from each law while paying money to avoid consequences from court for their actions while the poor can't make deals outside of the court to drop the cases, yes that shows how fair, democratic and free this country is with the highest amount of jailed people and the commuting children the death penalty while completley orchestrating their entire western controlled Mass Media when anywhere in the world any country gives death penalties from any unwanted government, like the death penalty is something so dispicable that americans would never do it....
What I find most disturbing is how this pseudo-humanitarian and holier-than-thou charlatan, his smug contempt for all the widespread rape under the Pentagon's watch. He didn't give two shits about the epidemic of rape, just like he admitted he didn't give two shits about the 1.5 million dead Iraqis...
Even crazier is that he didn't provide a single shred counter-evidence, while making a fallacious strawman of false equivalency argument claiming 'sexual assaults in Russian military circles were worse' and SURPRISE he made the claim without actually providing a single shred of evidence there either.
That is beccause he is an american, living by the maxim "all lies from Russia" and "we say only the truth". Not once he has ever said anything about the uncountable dictatorships we have in the west and terrorism, war of drugs, war of hegemony and war of propaganda, but it is of course only Kremlin that controls Media, while we have freedom lovers and democracy.
Money does not make democracy it makes kleptocracy, when the few rich are the one that benefit from each law while paying money to avoid consequences from court for their actions while the poor can't make deals outside of the court to drop the cases, yes that shows how fair, democratic and free this country is with the highest amount of jailed people and the commuting children the death penalty while completley orchestrating their entire western controlled Mass Media when anywhere in the world any country gives death penalties from any unwanted government, like the death penalty is something so dispicable that americans would never do it....
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Well, what does not help western press is that they are getting funding to "counter Russian lies" and their government goes on to say that RT is a threat. So this proves to me that there is no press freedom, not in the west. I don't know about Russia.
These make me laugh as it really does prove that US is really working towards a NAZI germany system of Propaganda:
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150418/1021052775.html
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150417/1021045330.html
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150416/1020992655.html
And these articles quote wikileaks who you know, is posting leaked documents. So it isnt Russian propaganda as some member(s) here would say.
There is that nice picture of who owns what stations and who they are related to in Senate. Who can post that again?
These make me laugh as it really does prove that US is really working towards a NAZI germany system of Propaganda:
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150418/1021052775.html
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150417/1021045330.html
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150416/1020992655.html
And these articles quote wikileaks who you know, is posting leaked documents. So it isnt Russian propaganda as some member(s) here would say.
There is that nice picture of who owns what stations and who they are related to in Senate. Who can post that again?
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magnumcromagnon wrote:TR1 wrote:Good god. What a childish post full of tripe. Bringing up wasted Pentagon money is really relevant...also funny since you keep showing you have not a clue what "unaccounted" means in that context.
All that because anyone with half a set of brains can tell "Ruskaya Sila" is pulling things out of its rear.
Lmao. Go ahead. Keep defending what is obvious baloney.
But but buhhh teh US military rapes111!!!!
What a terrible comeback. Good grief.
LOL butthurt and crying after you haven't provided a single shred of evidence to prove your point like always that it wasn't true, so instead of snorting lines of your own dried semen go ahead provide the counter evidence asswipe lol!
Garry, can you tell the child to calm down? I think he needs a break from the internet.
Accusing others of being butthurt just makes you seem....kind of butthurt yourself
Still no major networks reporting anything about these rapes.
Seems legit lmao.
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magnumcromagnon wrote:kvs wrote:Anyone who claims that the western media is free after it routinely parrots Kiev regime propaganda without any effort at
fact checking and at the same time systematically ignores Kiev regime war crimes is either a certifiable idiot or malicious.
In the case of TR1 it is both.
What I find most disturbing is how this pseudo-humanitarian and holier-than-thou charlatan, his smug contempt for all the widespread rape under the Pentagon's watch. He didn't give two shits about the epidemic of rape, just like he admitted he didn't give two shits about the 1.5 million dead Iraqis...
Even crazier is that he didn't provide a single shred counter-evidence, while making a fallacious strawman of false equivalency argument claiming 'sexual assaults in Russian military circles were worse' and SURPRISE he made the claim without actually providing a single shred of evidence there either.
Prove these rapes happened.
Show anything substantial that corroborates the report.
Children these days, yawn.
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higurashihougi wrote:
I respect your pessimitism and your mistrust about Russian goverment but I don't think Western goverment is better.
I have not said a single thing about the Western governments, it is just certain shills bringing it up because I called out what was an obviously made up rape claim.
But that is to be expected here- people get riled up when their transparent BS is called out and start frothing at the mouth like rabid dogs.
It is actually very amusing.