The Situation in the Ukraine. #12

auslander wrote:
If the rubber stamp hague court wants us to go back to Ukraine, tell them to come and make us.

etaepsilonk wrote:

Wait, do you seriously believe that putler actually cares about some crimea peasants? Russia would've occupied crimea regardless of people's allegiance, be they russians or ukrainians or klingons.
Alternatively, if a deal satisfying putler's ego is reached, crimea will be re-transferred in an identical manner

etaepsilonk wrote:

auslander wrote:
If the rubber stamp hague court wants us to go back to Ukraine, tell them to come and make us.

Wait, do you seriously believe that putler actually cares about some crimea peasants? Russia would've occupied crimea regardless of people's allegiance, be they russians or ukrainians or klingons.
Alternatively, if a deal satisfying putler's ego is reached, crimea will be re-transferred in an identical manner

etaepsilonk wrote:

auslander wrote:
If the rubber stamp hague court wants us to go back to Ukraine, tell them to come and make us.

Wait, do you seriously believe that putler actually cares about some crimea peasants? Russia would've occupied crimea regardless of people's allegiance, be they russians or ukrainians or klingons.
Alternatively, if a deal satisfying putler's ego is reached, crimea will be re-transferred in an identical manner

auslander wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

auslander wrote:
If the rubber stamp hague court wants us to go back to Ukraine, tell them to come and make us.

Wait, do you seriously believe that putler actually cares about some crimea peasants? Russia would've occupied crimea regardless of people's allegiance, be they russians or ukrainians or klingons.
Alternatively, if a deal satisfying putler's ego is reached, crimea will be re-transferred in an identical manner

I, my wife of well over a decade, our three children with two more in process, we are all some of those 'Crimea peasants'. And it's Mr. Putin, just as it's Mr. Poroshenko and Mr. Obama, regardless of now I personally feel about any and all of them. Russian did not 'occupy' Krimu. It was US who set up the barricades, it was US who armed up and stopped the Ukes from coming down here, it was US who defended this city and this peninsula when the Flot Kommandeer clearly stated that his prekasse was to protect the Flot, not this city or the peninsula. It was US who took Sevastopol, it was US who took Krim Rada in Simferopol, it was US who tossed the Ukr. functionaries out, it was US who organized the referendum, it was US who petitioned to Russia to join the Russian Federation. Krim was, is and always will be Russia. Understand that and accept that. There will never again be a foreign flag flying over Krimu, it will always be the Russian flag.

etaepsilonk wrote:Jeez, all it takes is one comment not completely in line with praising the dear leader, and all prorussian trolls come swarming in. Must be a hive mentality of sorts

auslander wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

auslander wrote:
If the rubber stamp hague court wants us to go back to Ukraine, tell them to come and make us.

Wait, do you seriously believe that putler actually cares about some crimea peasants? Russia would've occupied crimea regardless of people's allegiance, be they russians or ukrainians or klingons.
Alternatively, if a deal satisfying putler's ego is reached, crimea will be re-transferred in an identical manner

I, my wife of well over a decade, our three children with two more in process, we are all some of those 'Crimea peasants'. And it's Mr. Putin, just as it's Mr. Poroshenko and Mr. Obama, regardless of now I personally feel about any and all of them. Russian did not 'occupy' Krimu. It was US who set up the barricades, it was US who armed up and stopped the Ukes from coming down here, it was US who defended this city and this peninsula when the Flot Kommandeer clearly stated that his prekasse was to protect the Flot, not this city or the peninsula. It was US who took Sevastopol, it was US who took Krim Rada in Simferopol, it was US who tossed the Ukr. functionaries out, it was US who organized the referendum, it was US who petitioned to Russia to join the Russian Federation. Krim was, is and always will be Russia. Understand that and accept that. There will never again be a foreign flag flying over Krimu, it will always be the Russian flag.

Will be russian, eh? Well, hitler predicted the third reich to last a thousand years. Didn't quite matched the expectations, as far as I know

Oh, and this nationalistic chest beating of yours (spiced up by your half-english-half-german typing) is quite funny, considering that if yanukovich only had retained that little thiefdom of his, crimeans would have no other choice but to put up with the demonic ukrainian fascism.

Airbornewolf wrote: i fully understand your emotions towards this comment, and from my personal point of view Crimea's actions where fully justified. just dont let people provoke you, its still the internet after all and you should not end up grinding your teeth afterward because of someone's poor response.

Monarchist wrote:Lavrov's continued talks about a united Ukraine and how Russia will do anything to keep Ukraine united disgusts me more and more.

And only two people replied to your comment and didn't go all nationalistic or pro Putin or anything. So you are just hurting your own credibility.

sepheronx wrote:

The will of the people spoke. And it is their will that keeps it within the country, much like even the more troubled spots in Russia. Unless someone went to war over it (happened before and in the end, neither England nor Ottomans succeeded), how do you expect it to go back? There is a clear difference between territory that belongs to someone by ethnicity and claim (while having popular support) vs a madman that conquered nations and cooked a bunch of people.

And only two people replied to your comment and didn't go all nationalistic or pro Putin or anything. So you are just hurting your own credibility.

etaepsilonk wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

The will of the people spoke.  And it is their will that keeps it within the country, much like even the more troubled spots in Russia.  Unless someone went to war over it (happened before and in the end, neither England nor Ottomans succeeded), how do you expect it to go back?  There is a clear difference between territory that belongs to someone by ethnicity and claim (while having popular support) vs a madman that conquered nations and cooked a bunch of people.

And only two people replied to your comment and didn't go all nationalistic or pro Putin or anything.  So you are just hurting your own credibility.

A madman who conquered nations and cooked a bunch of people justified his actions by claiming that all of that belonged to his nation at one point or another anyway, it was only taken away by the criminal schemes of people wishing misfortune to them.

It's quite worrying how history tends to repeat itself. You know, with all the people here claiming ukraine as a fake country 'n stuff...

etaepsilonk wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

The will of the people spoke.  And it is their will that keeps it within the country, much like even the more troubled spots in Russia.  Unless someone went to war over it (happened before and in the end, neither England nor Ottomans succeeded), how do you expect it to go back?  There is a clear difference between territory that belongs to someone by ethnicity and claim (while having popular support) vs a madman that conquered nations and cooked a bunch of people.

And only two people replied to your comment and didn't go all nationalistic or pro Putin or anything.  So you are just hurting your own credibility.

A madman who conquered nations and cooked a bunch of people justified his actions by claiming that all of that belonged to his nation at one point or another anyway, it was only taken away by the criminal schemes of people wishing misfortune to them.

It's quite worrying how history tends to repeat itself. You know, with all the people here claiming ukraine as a fake country 'n stuff...

Wait, do you seriously believe that putler actually cares about some crimea peasants? Russia would've occupied crimea regardless of people's allegiance, be they russians or ukrainians or klingons.
Alternatively, if a deal satisfying putler's ego is reached, crimea will be re-transferred in an identical manner Wink

Werewolf wrote:
Really how many people has Putin that new Hitler killed in his bloody invasion of Crimea? 100? 10.000? 100.000? 1.000.000?

Exactly ZERO and a sezession is not an invasion nor an annexation, people were asked and Crimea is russian soil, nobody there wanted to be in the failed artificial created fake state Ukraine that never existed in human history before. It was not Kiew Ukraine, because no freaking normal person would call himself "Atboarderliving" that is what Ukraine means At the boarder living. Ukraine is just a word and Khokhly are not ukrainians, all people living at the baorder to west europe were called ukrainians (At the boarder living), regardless if cossacks, russians, khokhly or germans they were all ukrainians because that is what they are People that live at the BOARDER to rest of europe.

So you can shuff your western butthurt propaganda up your butt you troll.

etaepsilonk wrote:

Werewolf wrote:
Really how many people has Putin that new Hitler killed in his bloody invasion of Crimea? 100? 10.000? 100.000? 1.000.000?

Exactly ZERO and a sezession is not an invasion nor an annexation, people were asked and Crimea is russian soil, nobody there wanted to be in the failed artificial created fake state Ukraine that never existed in human history before. It was not Kiew Ukraine, because no freaking normal person would call himself "Atboarderliving" that is what Ukraine means At the boarder living. Ukraine is just a word and Khokhly are not ukrainians, all people living at the baorder to west europe were called ukrainians (At the boarder living), regardless if cossacks, russians, khokhly or germans they were all ukrainians because that is what they are People that live at the BOARDER to rest of europe.

So you can shuff your western butthurt propaganda up your butt you troll.

All what you're saying here is completely irrelevant.
Many people in donbas were asked and wanted donbas to become russian soil, many there also didn't want to be "in the failed artificial created fake state Ukraine that never existed in human history before". But it only took a putler's decision and it didn't happen.

Do you think that crimea is somehow different in this regard? had putler not want crimea as part of russia, it wouldn't be russia, no matter how many referendums they'd decide to make.

Werewolf wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

Werewolf wrote:
Really how many people has Putin that new Hitler killed in his bloody invasion of Crimea? 100? 10.000? 100.000? 1.000.000?

Exactly ZERO and a sezession is not an invasion nor an annexation, people were asked and Crimea is russian soil, nobody there wanted to be in the failed artificial created fake state Ukraine that never existed in human history before. It was not Kiew Ukraine, because no freaking normal person would call himself "Atboarderliving" that is what Ukraine means At the boarder living. Ukraine is just a word and Khokhly are not ukrainians, all people living at the baorder to west europe were called ukrainians (At the boarder living), regardless if cossacks, russians, khokhly or germans they were all ukrainians because that is what they are People that live at the BOARDER to rest of europe.

So you can shuff your western butthurt propaganda up your butt you troll.

All what you're saying here is completely irrelevant.
Many people in donbas were asked and wanted donbas to become russian soil, many there also didn't want to be "in the failed artificial created fake state Ukraine that never existed in human history before". But it only took a putler's decision and it didn't happen.

Do you think that crimea is somehow different in this regard? had putler not want crimea as part of russia, it wouldn't be russia, no matter how many referendums they'd decide to make.

No matter how often you call him Putler you only show your alliance to Nazis and western scum like a worthless life...

flamming_python wrote:And you would have to be a blind man to fail how to see how this relates to the US/EU overthrow of the Ukrainian government.

It's very simple really. I'll spell it out for you. Russia is not a nice nation. As all big strong nations - it's an imperialist power, just not an aggressive one. It is however territorial, and it will act preemptively, and small nations and people will suffer.

etaepsilonk wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

Werewolf wrote:
Really how many people has Putin that new Hitler killed in his bloody invasion of Crimea? 100? 10.000? 100.000? 1.000.000?

Exactly ZERO and a sezession is not an invasion nor an annexation, people were asked and Crimea is russian soil, nobody there wanted to be in the failed artificial created fake state Ukraine that never existed in human history before. It was not Kiew Ukraine, because no freaking normal person would call himself "Atboarderliving" that is what Ukraine means At the boarder living. Ukraine is just a word and Khokhly are not ukrainians, all people living at the baorder to west europe were called ukrainians (At the boarder living), regardless if cossacks, russians, khokhly or germans they were all ukrainians because that is what they are People that live at the BOARDER to rest of europe.

So you can shuff your western butthurt propaganda up your butt you troll.

All what you're saying here is completely irrelevant.
Many people in donbas were asked and wanted donbas to become russian soil, many there also didn't want to be "in the failed artificial created fake state Ukraine that never existed in human history before". But it only took a putler's decision and it didn't happen.

Do you think that crimea is somehow different in this regard? had putler not want crimea as part of russia, it wouldn't be russia, no matter how many referendums they'd decide to make.

No matter how often you call him Putler you only show your alliance to Nazis and western scum like a worthless life...

That's quite rich, coming from the closet nazi claiming that internationally recognized country doesn't have the right to exist