The Situation in the Ukraine. #13

He also said that Obama sends his regards.

Werewolf wrote:

He also said that Obama sends his regards.

A Lannister and their regards...

Neutrality wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

He also said that Obama sends his regards.

A Lannister and their regards...

Well if we go by GoT's story then something terrible is about to happen to the "Lannister"

TASS wrote:South Ossetia, Donetsk republic to sign documents on mutual assistance, including military
World May 12, 11:03 UTC+3

The republics will sign "an intergovernmental agreement and inter-ministerial agreements," says speaker of South Ossetia’s parliament Anatoly Bibilov

TSKHINVAL, May 12. /TASS/. Speaker of South Ossetia’s parliament Anatoly Bibilov said on Tuesday that recognizing South Ossetia’s independence by the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic is a response to South Ossetia’s recognizing DPR last summer.

"Recognizing is another step towards further development of mutual relations between the republics; our relations are approaching a new level, and the basis for that was opening of diplomatic representations in DPR and South Ossetia," he said.

The republics will sign "an intergovernmental agreement and inter-ministerial agreements," he said. "We plan offering mutual assistance, including military assistance, as we sign a respective agreement.". Continue reading.

TASS wrote:Kremlin: Kiev’s attempts to regain control over Donetsk airport contradict Minsk accords
May 12, 13:24 UTC+3

On Monday, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said that the Donetsk airport, controlled by the militia of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), will be recaptured

SOCHI, May 12. /TASS/. Kiev’s plans to recapture Donetsk airport from militia forces contradict the Minsk agreements, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday.

"They do, of course," Peskov said, answering a question on whether Kiev’s attempts to regain control over the Donetsk airport violate the Minsk accords. "We have repeatedly stated that the Ukrainian side does not fulfill the points of the Minsk agreements," the spokesman noted.

On Monday, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said that the Donetsk airport, controlled by the militia of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), will be recaptured. "I do not doubt that we will free the airport because it is our land. And we will restore the airport," Poroshenko said. Continue reading.

TASS wrote:Observers spot heavy weapons of Ukrainian forces on contact line — DPR
May 12, 16:23 UTC+3

"Moreover, an OSCE drone has recorded shelling from three 152-mm howitzers from the Pionerskoye settlement in the eastern direction", Eduard Basurin said

DONETSK, May 12. /TASS/. International observers have spotted the positions of Ukrainian multiple rocket launch systems (MLRS) and artillery in the demilitarised zone in Kiev-controlled territories, a deputy corps commander of the Defence Ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) Eduard Basurin told reporters on Tuesday.

"Representatives of the OSCE [Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe] mission have spotted two BM-30 "Smerch" MLRS, one BM-21 "Grad" MLRS and four towed guns, allegedly M-46 with 130-mm calibre and 27-km range, two 152-mm MSTA-B howitzers in the demilitarised zone in the territory controlled by the Ukrainian security forces," the Donetsk news agency quoted him as saying. "This is a flagrant violation of the Minsk agreements by the Ukrainian side." Continue reading.

Sputnik wrote:Poles Criticize Honors for Ukrainian Nationalists Introduced by Kiev
17:25 12.05.2015(updated 17:26 12.05.2015)

Poles supported Moscow and eastern Ukraine in their criticism of new Ukrainian legislation that would give WWII nationalists the status of “national heroes”. The nationalists conducted mass killings of Poles during the war and slaughtered tens of thousands of innocent people.

Poles are strongly opposed to a controversial law passed by Ukraine's parliament last month giving WWII nationalists the status of “national heroes”.

The new legislation honors Ukrainian nationalists related to Nazis and responsible for the terrifying atrocities against Polish population during WWII.

According to the new law, the nationalists would be viewed as "fighters for Ukrainian independence" and treated like “national heroes”, the Christian Science Monitor reported. Continue reading.

TASS wrote:Ukraine’s parliament passes law to allow interning Russian citizens
May 12, 17:50 UTC+3

"Under law, martial rule legal measures stipulate interning citizens of a foreign state, which threatens with an attack or carries out an aggression against Ukraine," an explanatory note says

KIEV, May 12. /TASS/. The Ukrainian parliament broadly approved a law on Tuesday, allowing measures to intern Russian citizens living on the territory of Ukraine.

The law on martial rule was approved by 254 deputies compared with the required minimum of 226 voices in its favor.

Ukrainian MPs approved the bill in the first reading on April 9, after which it was sent for finalization after evoking many critical remarks.

"Under law, martial rule legal measures stipulate, in particular, interning (forcefully settling) citizens of a foreign state, which threatens with an attack or carries out an aggression against Ukraine," an explanatory note to the document says. Continue reading.

TASS wrote:Kiev-appointed official bans travels across demarcation line with DPR, LPR passports
May 12, 19:10 UTC+3

Earlier Tass said that 10 school students of the LPR reaching the age of 16 were the first to get the new passports

KIEV, May 12. /TASS/. Kiev-appointed head of the Luhansk regional state administration Gennady Moskal has banned residents of the Luhansk and Donetsk people’s republics from crossing the demarcation line with passports of the self-proclaimed republics, Moskal’s official website said.

It said Ukrainian law enforces would be immediately seizing these documents at border crossing points by, adding that "the demarcation line [dividing Kiev-controlled territory and areas held by self-defence forces] can be crossed in both directions only with the Ukrainian passport". Continue reading.

Kyiv Post wrote:No illusions for Ukraine at Eastern Partnership summit, experts say
May 12, 2015, 6:55 p.m. | Ukraine — by Olena Goncharova

A week before Eastern Partnership summit in Latvia, European Union leaders remain critical of Ukraine’s slow progress.

The Eastern Partnership summit on May 21-22 in Riga will gather representatives from Georgia, Moldova, Armenia, Belarus and Ukraine.

The EU made it clear that, despite Ukraine’s steps foward in fulfilling the action plan on visa liberalization, the country still has to catch up with Georgia and Moldova. Ukraine’s leaders were hoping that Ukrainians will be able to travel visa-free to the 26 nations that make up the Schengen zone within Europe from January 1, 2016.

But the country’s hopes for visa-free travel to Europe will not be realized in Riga this month.

Speaking at the Ukraine-EU conference organized by Kyiv-based Institute of World Policy on May 12, EU Ambassador Jan Tombinski said that Ukraine still is not doing enough to meet EU requirements for visa-free travel. Continue reading.

VZ via Google Translate wrote:Киев потребовал от ЕС «прекратить дискуссии» о членстве Украины
Kiev demanded that the EU "to stop the discussion" Ukraine's membership
May 12, 2015, 17:59

Members of the EU have to stop debate on the accession of Ukraine and start working hard to make it happen, said Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavlo Klimkin.

"The EU must stop the debate on membership of Ukraine and work to make it happen," - Klimkin wrote in Twitter .
Recall, April 27 Ukrainian authorities and the leadership of the European Union gathered in Kiev at the 17th summit Ukraine - EU. This is the first high-level summit after the signing of Kiev and the EU Association Agreement. Continue reading.

VZ via Google Translate wrote:Порошенко: Ждем жесткую реакцию международного сообщества на парад в Донецке
Poroshenko: We are waiting for a strong reaction of the international community to the parade in Donetsk
May 12, 2015, 18:17

President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said that in Kiev are hoping to hear a strong reaction from the international community on the military parade in Donetsk, May 9, the press service of Poroshenko.

According to him, the militia "continue to flagrantly violate the obligation on the challenge of heavy equipment and artillery shelling and resorted to even such a" slapstick comedy ", which was the holding of May 9 military parade in Donetsk using the banned heavy equipment", reports RIA "Novosti" .

"We expect a strong reaction from the international community," - Poroshenko said after a meeting with Norwegian Foreign Minister Borge Brende in Kyiv on Tuesday. Continue reading.

armedpolitics wrote:War through the eyes of refugees: Irina from Donetsk
On 12 May, 2015

Interview with Irina (32) from Donetsk. Occupation: Lawyer, criminologist. Single.

Interview was conducted in mid April 2015 in Odessa, Ukraine. Its transcript is based on audio recordings. All statements therein are from the people interviewed, of course we cannot guarantee their factual accuracy. The intention of publishing these interviews with refugees is to give people who are directly affected by the conflict in Ukraine a voice. (link to Russian version)

Q. Tell us about the events that took place prior to your departure.

A. I decided to leave after I had received two bullet wounds and 34 splinters in the legs. [She shows traces of wounds. Both bullets went through.] Continue reading.

TheMedvedova wrote:Night battle in Marinka - Ukraine

Neutrality wrote:Does Kerry have any presidential ambitions by the way? If he does, and if you take into account today's visit, there's a good chance they talked about this during the meeting. Kerry hinting at a "restart" of relations in case he gets elected?

Now I'm starting to sound like a pseudo political scientist.

EDIT: http://ria.ru/world/20150512/1064145204.html

Kerry: "Attempts by Kiev to retake Donetsk Airport would be destructive".

"We'll be very concerned with the results of such actions. Perhaps he (Poroshenko) meant it in the future over the course of a long time". - John Kerry

"But if president Poroshenko really believes that he should restart military operations, we'd advise him to think before taking such steps, because the Minks agreements would be in danger." - John Kerry

I think Kerry just made official they dumped Kiev.

Werewolf wrote:Since we already mentioning tanks in this thread let me throw this in.

The Ukropian propaganda and list of best tanks guess which is on No.1




BTW, they are calling a T-90MS Armata and placing it on 4.

collegeboy16 wrote:

Werewolf wrote:Since we already mentioning tanks in this thread let me throw this in.

The Ukropian propaganda and list of best tanks guess which is on No.1




BTW, they are calling a T-90MS Armata and placing it on 4.

this is just sad. this is NK level propaganda piece and like it made all the more sad because it really looks like they believed their BS, and made an effort to polish it, not that it mattered since the quality felt short even. the cgi even looks like something out of ps2.

Werewolf wrote:Since we already mentioning tanks in this thread let me throw this in.

The Ukropian propaganda and list of best tanks guess which is on No.1




BTW, they are calling a T-90MS Armata and placing it on 4.

Neutrality wrote:So Kerry, Lavrov and Putin have finished talks which took 4 hours. Since this was a US initiative, I guess Washington feels uneasy about something the Russians are doing. Anyone got any idea on what it might be? Kerry went even as far as to say that they considered Russia a partner in the fight against terrorism. He also said that Obama sends his regards. I have a suspicion that this might have something to do with Russian/Chinese maneuvering in the global financial system. Specifically the AIIB and the BRICS Bank. Or perhaps Washington fears Chinese dominance in the South Pacific and they hope to appease the Russians somehow.

auslander wrote:Real time commo Gorlovka. Apparently someone forgot the tell Mr. Poroshenko that US just dumped him. The roar of explosions is continuous, not a stop, sources say for at this moment one hour 15 mikes. We spoke and listened for almost 15 minutes. All areas of Gorlovka are being bombarded, concentrated but not limited to civilian flats buildings, gas, water and electric infrastructure and schools. Casualties unknown but definitely some. I'll know more in the morning. Areas of Donetsk are getting bombarded also, generally but not exclusively from Sand. Gorlovka is getting it from west, north and east.  

auslander wrote:Real time commo Gorlovka. Apparently someone forgot the tell Mr. Poroshenko that US just dumped him. The roar of explosions is continuous, not a stop, sources say for at this moment one hour 15 mikes. We spoke and listened for almost 15 minutes. All areas of Gorlovka are being bombarded, concentrated but not limited to civilian flats buildings, gas, water and electric infrastructure and schools. Casualties unknown but definitely some. I'll know more in the morning. Areas of Donetsk are getting bombarded also, generally but not exclusively from Sand. Gorlovka is getting it from west, north and east.  

Neutrality wrote:Does Kerry have any presidential ambitions by the way? If he does, and if you take into account today's visit, there's a good chance they talked about this during the meeting. Kerry hinting at a "restart" of relations in case he gets elected?

Now I'm starting to sound like a pseudo political scientist.

EDIT: http://ria.ru/world/20150512/1064145204.html

Kerry: "Attempts by Kiev to retake Donetsk Airport would be destructive".

"We'll be very concerned with the results of such actions. Perhaps he (Poroshenko) meant it in the future over the course of a long time". - John Kerry

"But if president Poroshenko really believes that he should restart military operations, we'd advise him to think before taking such steps, because the Minks agreements would be in danger." - John Kerry

I think Kerry just made official they dumped Kiev.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

auslander wrote:Real time commo Gorlovka. Apparently someone forgot the tell Mr. Poroshenko that US just dumped him. The roar of explosions is continuous, not a stop, sources say for at this moment one hour 15 mikes. We spoke and listened for almost 15 minutes. All areas of Gorlovka are being bombarded, concentrated but not limited to civilian flats buildings, gas, water and electric infrastructure and schools. Casualties unknown but definitely some. I'll know more in the morning. Areas of Donetsk are getting bombarded also, generally but not exclusively from Sand. Gorlovka is getting it from west, north and east.  

It's time to break this stupid Minsk Treaty! It's only their to serve Berlin's and Moscow's interests, not for Novo's interests. Time to capture Mariupol (plenty of Novo support their), and don't stop until you capture Odessa (more Novo support their as well). Time to deprive Kiev of a coastline!

magnumcromagnon wrote:............................

It's time to break this stupid Minsk Treaty! It's only their to serve Berlin's and Moscow's interests, not for Novo's interests. Time to capture Mariupol (plenty of Novo support their), and don't stop until you capture Odessa (more Novo support their as well). Time to deprive Kiev of a coastline!

Under law, martial rule legal measures stipulate interning citizens of a foreign state, which threatens with an attack or carries out an aggression against Ukraine,” an explanatory note says

KIEV, May 12. /TASS/. The Ukrainian parliament broadly approved a law on Tuesday, allowing measures to intern Russian citizens living on the territory of Ukraine.

The law on martial rule was approved by 254 deputies compared with the required minimum of 226 voices in its favor.

Ukrainian MPs approved the bill in the first reading on April 9, after which it was sent for finalization after evoking many critical remarks.

“Under law, martial rule legal measures stipulate, in particular, interning (forcefully settling) citizens of a foreign state, which threatens with an attack or carries out an aggression against Ukraine,” an explanatory note to the document says.

Under the law, the imposition of martial rule automatically entails labor duty for the able-bodied population, permits the compulsory alienation of property, bans gatherings and meetings, the activity of undesirable political parties, stipulates media regulation, the forcible sale of property under private or communal ownership, the imposition of a curfew, the restriction of the freedom of citizens’ movement and so on.

The Ukrainian parliament initially planned to pass the law as a whole after discussions pursuant to a shortened procedure. However, MPs who spoke on the bill demanded a full procedure of discussions as there were “a lot of amendments and remarks” to the document.

The document says that “martial law is a special legal regime imposed in Ukraine or on its separate territories in the event of an armed aggression or the threat of an attack, the existence of a danger for the state independence of Ukraine and its territorial integrity.”

Martial rule may be imposed after Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada (parliament) approves a relevant decree by the country’s president, the document says.

Analysts say the preparation of new editions of the law on martial rule may indicate the government’s readiness to impose it in Ukraine.

Khepesh wrote:Same as January at Gorlovka, general bombardment but particulary in the NW of the city in Nikitovsky district and reports of ukrops attacking thro Maiorsk. Locals report this bombardment is not mortars but MLRS and some say they hear sounds that are unfamiliar. Unfortunately people of Gorlovka have become expert at this...

Neutrality wrote:Does Kerry have any presidential ambitions by the way? If he does, and if you take into account today's visit, there's a good chance they talked about this during the meeting. Kerry hinting at a "restart" of relations in case he gets elected?

Now I'm starting to sound like a pseudo political scientist.

EDIT: http://ria.ru/world/20150512/1064145204.html

Kerry: "Attempts by Kiev to retake Donetsk Airport would be destructive".

"We'll be very concerned with the results of such actions. Perhaps he (Poroshenko) meant it in the future over the course of a long time". - John Kerry

"But if president Poroshenko really believes that he should restart military operations, we'd advise him to think before taking such steps, because the Minks agreements would be in danger." - John Kerry

I think Kerry just made official they dumped Kiev.

mack8 wrote:

Neutrality wrote:Does Kerry have any presidential ambitions by the way? If he does, and if you take into account today's visit, there's a good chance they talked about this during the meeting. Kerry hinting at a "restart" of relations in case he gets elected?

Now I'm starting to sound like a pseudo political scientist.

EDIT: http://ria.ru/world/20150512/1064145204.html

Kerry: "Attempts by Kiev to retake Donetsk Airport would be destructive".

"We'll be very concerned with the results of such actions. Perhaps he (Poroshenko) meant it in the future over the course of a long time". - John Kerry

"But if president Poroshenko really believes that he should restart military operations, we'd advise him to think before taking such steps, because the Minks agreements would be in danger." - John Kerry

I think Kerry just made official they dumped Kiev.

I can't seem to find news about that pig-face Kerry having said those things in the US aligned media. I would expect that would happen if they would actually turn their faces from Porky. So best not to read too much into that imo.