The Situation in the Ukraine. #13

sepheronx wrote:That USA today article is shit. Why bother posting it? They don't even have Western media in donetsk.

Flagship Victory wrote:I think this whir guy is known as Hindustani78 on pakistani defense forum who is actually a Lithuanian trool who posts all these full length articles taking up space he extremely hates Russia. Just my TWO cents.

whir wrote:I'm not registered at Defence.pk, I'm not Lithuanian and I like Russia so please stop.

Flagship Victory wrote:

sepheronx wrote:That USA today article is shit. Why bother posting it? They dont even have Western media in donetsk.

I think this whir guy is known as Hindustani78 on pakistani defense forum who is actually a Lithuanian trool who posts all these full length articles taking up space he extremely hates Russia. Just my TWO cents.

Back on the two captured ex special forces. I hope they won't get summarily executed. Putch did say they are charged with terrorism. See what happens? Russia released all captured NG killers after treating their wounds and now putch does this to captured Russians. This tells Putin exactly what NOT to do. Sigh. Mironov has visted DPR. Putin has never done so. Vote Mironov or Zhirinovsky. Vote out Putin. 2018 yes we can!

At the end of the day, I think, Putin should respect people's lives more. He should not allow putch to use heavy artillery to massacre civilians of Donbas, even if it means bringing more money to Russia's GDP. After all, money is made by man, lives are made by God.

sepheronx wrote:Hmm, they got caught too easily if they are ex gru. Standards dropped?

Anyway, hopefully they are returned. They will probably ask for their pilot back.

Russian spec ops opperated very well in Georgia. Now it doesnt confirm if these guys are actually ex GRU byt the associates from special forces veterans asking for them back is good indication.

Wonder if they will get them back or use them as a continuous media parade.

Flagship Victory wrote:The stop quoting Guardian, CNN, BBC, USAToday, Forbes, The New York Times or any other US government MSM garbage. Do that again and I will report you.

Flagship Victory wrote:Update. Russian government says those 2 captured LPR fighter were Russian special forces but who had quit to defend the people of Donbas. I knew it. Putin speaks not a word even though putch shells Donbas every single day doing genocide. Russian people must, I repeat, must vote out Putin in 2018. Mironov, Zhirinovsky, anyone but Putin.

VSS Vintorez is not inherited by Ukraine even though it is a late 1980s weapon.

Neutrality wrote:If the Ukrainians don't release them like the Russians are asking, next time there's a cauldron, they'll be all wiped out. No more mercy.

Neutrality wrote:If the Ukrainians don't release them like the Russians are asking, next time there's a cauldron, they'll be all wiped out. No more mercy.

Regular wrote:Shit for them. Their fault they ended up giving up. Ukraine can torture the shit out of them all they want really. If Russia has removed them from active duty then it's their own fault.
No sympathy for them. They are not combatants in my book. Better should've joined NAF.

Flagship Victory wrote:

whir wrote:I'm not registered at Defence.pk, I'm not Lithuanian and I like Russia so please stop.

The stop quoting Guardian, CNN, BBC, USAToday, Forbes, The New York Times or any other US government MSM garbage. Do that again and I will report you.

whir wrote:

Flagship Victory wrote:The stop quoting Guardian, CNN, BBC, USAToday, Forbes, The New York Times or any other US government MSM garbage. Do that again and I will report you.

Report me, I'm also quoting MSM garbage from Ukraine and Russian sources so calm down.

Flagship Victory wrote:

Regular wrote:Shit for them. Their fault they ended up giving up. Ukraine can torture the shit out of them all they want really. If Russia has removed them from active duty then it's their own fault.
No sympathy for them. They are not combatants in my book. Better should've joined NAF.

LPR said they had joined LPR and are LPR soldiers.

Regular wrote:OK, so what's the problem them? Why Russia even respond and talk about torture. Ukraine was torturing sep prisoners from day one. Not like now when they are used for PR tricks, but they were crippling  them or leaving them gravely injured before giving them up like Strelkov said many times. Why Russia said nothing about them?
Next thing seps should do is to fucking hang ukrainians or bash their heads in infront of cameras and that's it. Enough of this circus, You can't win wars being nice. Same shits who were released back home to Ukraine came back to fight again as they know if they surrender nothing happens. Seps should go chechen on Ukr army and break their crumbling morale if shit hits the fan. There will be no reconciliation no matter what.

PapaDragon wrote:Also, these days anyone and their grandma' has Vintorez, that thing is on open market...

Regular wrote:But my opinion that Ukrainian lesbo pilot should be let go home as now she is martyr for Ukrainians. God forbid she will starve her fat face to death, her picture will be everywhere like Timoshenkos or ... Banderas like now.

PapaDragon wrote:Pretty soon Ukrainians will have much bigger problems than some POW freak so I do not think that they will spend too many precious calories thinking about her...





And we're still long way from Christmas  

Flagship Victory wrote:......................................

Don't count on GDP. It's nothing but a digital number in a computer. See? US send key sent 1 billion USD to Ukraine today.

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukraine-us-sign-agreement-on-1-billion-loan-guarantees-to-kyiv-388879.html

GDP number is nothing. People's lives are important. Do you have a clue how many Donbas civilians are massacred by putsch artillery bombardment every day?

PapaDragon wrote:Will US bend laws of physics and send Kiev more time? Because that is what they need now and running out of...

I know that civilians get killed but this is war. People die. Do you want entire Russia to go down the drain like Ukraine? Because that is what you are suggesting.

People's lives are important. Tens of millions of peoples (Russian in this case) lives are more important...or have you forgot about the 90's?  

Russia still does not have enough power to do what you want. In the near future yes, but not now. Stop acting like this is a video-game.

TV Channel OPLOT TV wrote:18/05/2015. heavy battle in Donetsk, heavy artillery sounds.

whir wrote:

TV Channel OPLOT TV wrote:18/05/2015. heavy battle in Donetsk, heavy artillery sounds.

Flagship Victory wrote:......................................

I said it before, I'll say it again. Economy is nothing but a digital number in a computer. It is not physical. You can't touch it. The US send key can send a quantillion USD to putsch. It has nothing to do with the laws of physics.

Putin will not win anything with Minsk 2. People will die at the hands of putsch. Russia will be sanctioned for not giving Crimea to Ukraine. NAF has to go on the offensive to restore democracy in Ukraine. There will not be a Maidan 2 unless FSB starts it like how CIA started Maidan.

Flagship Victory wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:Pretty soon Ukrainians will have much bigger problems than some POW freak so I do not think that they will spend too many precious calories thinking about her...





And we're still long way from Christmas  

Don't count on GDP. It's nothing but a digital number in a computer. See? US send key sent 1 billion USD to Ukraine today.

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukraine-us-sign-agreement-on-1-billion-loan-guarantees-to-kyiv-388879.html

GDP number is nothing. People's lives are important. Do you have a clue how many Donbas civilians are massacred by putsch artillery bombardment every day?

PapaDragon wrote:

So economy is just number on a computer but OMG Russia will be sanctioned!!! Nice way to discredit yourself...