Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+93
LMFS
KiloGolf
miketheterrible
AMCXXL
Luq man
d_taddei2
MC-21
Tingsay
HM1199
berhoum
Pierre Sprey
Singular_Transform
Big_Gazza
George1
kvs
PapaDragon
Isos
Rmf
Kimppis
JohninMK
Project Canada
Russian Patriot
archangelski
marcellogo
Benya
Pincus Shain
max steel
DB1234
Genjurooo
Morpheus Eberhardt
AK-Rex
Book.
Svyatoslavich
Backinblack
Varyag
kopyo-21
KRATOS1133
sheytanelkebir
Cucumber Khan
Elsarof
medo
victor1985
Berkut
GunshipDemocracy
nastle77
Manov
Mike E
higurashihougi
Sassanidsaxon
Werewolf
mutantsushi
sepheronx
Alex555
Flyboy77
Vympel
collegeboy16
nemrod
Anas Ali
etaepsilonk
Hannibal Barca
Hachimoto
magnumcromagnon
SOC
AlfaT8
mack8
TheArmenian
Department Of Defense
psg
gaurav
Firebird
eridan
indochina
runaway
a89
ricky123
Sancho
Stealthflanker
KomissarBojanchev
flamming_python
Sujoy
Dima
Chrisa
TR1
Cyberspec
GarryB
ahmedfire
nightcrawler
Hoof
Austin
Viktor
tunguska
Vladislav
Admin
97 posters

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Viktor Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:00 pm

    The more the merrier  Very Happy
    TR1
    TR1


    Posts : 5435
    Points : 5433
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:14 pm

    http://russianplanes.net/id128398

    Nice pic (but fugly paint), shows 9-12s still going strong!

    Another reason I think people are underestimating the size of the MiG-29 legacy fleet in service. It is clearly not down to sub 100 airframes.
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  mack8 Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:16 pm

    And then there's this, a 9-53 (or is this PS?!). Wonder what's the story with this paint, there was also at least an  Su-27UB painted same.
    http://www.mycity-military.com/slika.php?slika=143473_92676872_YL48q.jpg
    avatar
    Austin


    Posts : 7617
    Points : 8014
    Join date : 2010-05-08
    Location : India

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Austin Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:08 am

    Russia To Order MiG-29SMT Fighter Jets
    sepheronx
    sepheronx


    Posts : 8847
    Points : 9107
    Join date : 2009-08-05
    Age : 35
    Location : Canada

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  sepheronx Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:54 am

    Austin wrote:Russia To Order MiG-29SMT Fighter Jets

    Interesting. I thought there are no more MiG-29 airframes left that are worthy of an upgrade for more SMT's? So are these new airframes? If so, why SMT and not just outright order 35's with its newer and more advanced radar?
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Viktor Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:18 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Austin wrote:Russia To Order MiG-29SMT Fighter Jets

    Interesting. I thought there are no more MiG-29 airframes left that are worthy of an upgrade for more SMT's? So are these new airframes? If so, why SMT and not just outright order 35's with its newer and more advanced radar?

    I think that no matter SMT definition in the article these are actually newly build MIG-29M.
    TR1
    TR1


    Posts : 5435
    Points : 5433
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  TR1 Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:32 pm

    If it is really SMT and not MiG-29M as Viktor preditcs (and I hope), then its the legacy airframe, not the new and still unfinished MiG-35.
    The systems on the latter are still very raw.

    Legacy airframe + Zhuk-M = easy and cheap.
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  mack8 Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:01 pm

    There were pictures from the Lukhovitsy (i think) factory taken in 2011 clearly showing several unfinished 9.13 airframes gathering dust. Unfortunately i lost my bookmarks so can't link to them now... but if someone can ask paralay, he knows the pictures.
    Viktor
    Viktor


    Posts : 5796
    Points : 6429
    Join date : 2009-08-25
    Age : 44
    Location : Croatia

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Viktor Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:55 pm

    mack8 wrote:There were pictures from the Lukhovitsy (i think)  factory taken in 2011 clearly showing several unfinished 9.13 airframes gathering dust. Unfortunately  i lost my bookmarks so can't link to them now... but if someone can ask paralay, he knows the pictures.

    Myanmar ordered 20 used MIG-29 which could have used all the leftovers.
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40541
    Points : 41041
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Russia To Order MiG-29SMT Fighter Jets

    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:52 am

    The SMT upgrade is an upgrade and can be applied to old model Mig-29s and also to new model Mig-29Ms.

    I hope they apply it to new model Mig-29Ms as they will get the best lifespan from the new airframes and with proper maintainence they should last much better than upgraded older models.

    They will likely also be interesting export aircraft that are cheaper than full standard Mig-29Ms with their original equipment, yet offer a basic airframe that could be upgraded to Mig-35 standard as that is pretty much what the Mig-29M2 is... the basis for the Mig-35.

    As the technology gets cheaper it can have newer items added over time to keep the aircraft competitive.

    As a swing fighter/bomber it makes sense to use a Mig-29SMT to drop laser guided bombs on targets instead of a Su-35 or PAK FA which should be clearing the skies of enemy aircraft.
    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:05 pm

    Mig-29's, and Su-25's being repaired, and at least one Mig-35 in the background in Moscow's Kubinka. 121st Aircraft Repair Plant:

    Anas Ali
    Anas Ali


    Posts : 65
    Points : 112
    Join date : 2013-02-12
    Age : 36
    Location : Egypt

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty about MIG-29M !!!

    Post  Anas Ali Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:02 pm

    what is these parts on the mig29m ????
    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 1800445_759481250730478_1040221121_n
    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 1926799_759481367397133_1195228912_n

    better resolution and without Circles

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 111569
    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 111746
    TR1
    TR1


    Posts : 5435
    Points : 5433
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  TR1 Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:10 pm

    Targeting pod and defensive systems.

    We are still pretty unclear about the defensive object.
    AlfaT8
    AlfaT8


    Posts : 2488
    Points : 2479
    Join date : 2013-02-02

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:29 pm

    Yep, definitely a targeting pod the other one might be a towed decoy, although considering its position its unlikely.
    Werewolf
    Werewolf


    Posts : 5928
    Points : 6117
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Werewolf Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:33 pm

    The left one is clearly an ELINT pod and the right one has also very distinguishable colored ball which is "clouded" and it is a MAWS (Missile Approach Warning Sensor) and the housing alone would be to big just to house the MAWS so it has also ECM jamming capabilities.
    Anas Ali
    Anas Ali


    Posts : 65
    Points : 112
    Join date : 2013-02-12
    Age : 36
    Location : Egypt

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Anas Ali Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:08 pm

    could it be Gardenia-1 pod ?
    mack8
    mack8


    Posts : 1039
    Points : 1093
    Join date : 2013-08-02

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  mack8 Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:16 pm

    The left pod is indeed a UOMZ targeting pod (not ELINT), while the small right one does have MAWS sensors for lower hemisphere coverage (complementing the MAWS sensors on nose and spine and LWS on wingtips), and possibly a towed decoy in it, but we don't know. In fact there was a recent article in a magazine with some info on these systems i think, need to recheck it.

    UOMZ prospect:
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=174117&d=1330450783
    Anas Ali
    Anas Ali


    Posts : 65
    Points : 112
    Join date : 2013-02-12
    Age : 36
    Location : Egypt

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Anas Ali Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:51 pm

    i think they are pretty much has the same functions as the ols-k and soar but different types

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 1353285030.16637319
    Werewolf
    Werewolf


    Posts : 5928
    Points : 6117
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Werewolf Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:09 pm

    You are right it isn't an ELINT pod, i should've look closer, it is a FLIR UOMZ for ground targeting.
    flamming_python
    flamming_python


    Posts : 9547
    Points : 9605
    Join date : 2012-01-30

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  flamming_python Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:57 am

    Getting excited about the MiG-29M sales to Egypt, I see  Smile 
    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 40541
    Points : 41041
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:17 am

    And why not... it looks like an excellent aircraft that has had to live in the shadow of its larger stable mate.
    Anas Ali
    Anas Ali


    Posts : 65
    Points : 112
    Join date : 2013-02-12
    Age : 36
    Location : Egypt

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Anas Ali Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:38 am


    found it finally but still don't know its name of performance
    so if somebody could translate for us it would be much appreciated


    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 12186511
    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 563515Capture
    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 551366Capture2
    sepheronx
    sepheronx


    Posts : 8847
    Points : 9107
    Join date : 2009-08-05
    Age : 35
    Location : Canada

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  sepheronx Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:12 pm

    I would be far more interested if they where able to put in a more powerful hybrid radar or an AESA radar in the MiG-29M. Would really increase performance of the aircraft significantly.
    TR1
    TR1


    Posts : 5435
    Points : 5433
    Join date : 2011-12-06

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  TR1 Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:22 pm

    That is what the MiG-35 is, it is just not ready yet.
    Anas Ali
    Anas Ali


    Posts : 65
    Points : 112
    Join date : 2013-02-12
    Age : 36
    Location : Egypt

    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Anas Ali Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:52 pm

    could someone please translate this
    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 12186511

    Sponsored content


    MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News - Page 11 Empty Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:08 pm