Algeria People's National Armed Forces

First tries(essays) of at the middle of 171 in Algeria after return the up keeps(guards) in Russia 

The Algerian military have attacked an Islamist group, killing 3 of them. The Islamists were reported to have carried US SAM FIM-92 Stingers. The action took place close to the border with Libya, so the author suggests the Stingers were acquired in Libya.

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/bmpd.livejournal.com/1786181.html

The associated photographs show a sizeable trophy set of weapons and ammunition, but no Stingers. Perhaps there has been a misidentification of equipment?

short_fuze wrote:The Algerian military have attacked an Islamist group, killing 3 of them. The Islamists were reported to have carried US SAM FIM-92 Stingers. The action took place close to the border with Libya, so the author suggests the Stingers were acquired in Libya.

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/bmpd.livejournal.com/1786181.html

The associated photographs show a sizeable trophy set of weapons and ammunition, but no Stingers. Perhaps there has been a misidentification of equipment?

Yep, they turn out to be WPF 89-2.

The terrorists have reached Algeria, now we know why Algeria was modernizing its Armed Forces, if Algeria was smart they would ask Russia for help and give a Military base and a Naval base. The hands of the west are involved here.


https://southfront.org/militants-threaten-oil-and-gas-infrastructure-in-algeria/

par far wrote:The terrorists have reached Algeria, now we know why Algeria was modernizing its Armed Forces, if Algeria was smart they would ask Russia for help and give a Military base and a Naval base. The hands of the west are involved here.


https://southfront.org/militants-threaten-oil-and-gas-infrastructure-in-algeria/

They keep playing the same playbook

Install ISIS to destabilse country
Install NATO to pretend to fight ISIS
When country destroyed, move on to next.

It would be good if Russia were invited in as they don't mess around, but I wonder what the people at home would say? Do they appreciate that the US is basically at war with the world and will destroy (or try to) any country that shows independence? Russia, of course, would be the big prize - 1990's all over again - then on to China.

The Russian military obviously spent a lot of behind the scenes effort bringing the supposed 130,00 strong (actually 25,000 effective) Syrian Army up to scratch. Would a similar level of involvement be sufficient in Algeria rather than the full Latakia, Kalibr, Tu-22, Tu-60, SU-34, Su-25, etc treatment?

par far wrote:The terrorists have reached Algeria, now we know why Algeria was modernizing its Armed Forces, if Algeria was smart they would ask Russia for help and give a Military base and a Naval base. The hands of the west are involved here.


https://southfront.org/militants-threaten-oil-and-gas-infrastructure-in-algeria/

We've dealt on our own in the past, nothing new. These ones tried something but they failed, and they were sent to hell. The security forces are perfectly able to protect these sites, unlike what the article says, since these terrorists didn't even dare to come near the compound. They were then hunted down.

We have always refused foreign bases on our soil, even if they're Russian bases.

The Algerian army cannot be compared to the SAA, too much differences, same for the countries. You're actually making the mistake of underestimating the army and the country, while they are much stronger than they appear. The country has not fallen in the 90's, when we had no weapons and no money, so it has no reason to fall now, Algeria is not Syria.

"At least 12 people killed and two seriously injured in a helicopter crash in the Sahara during a reconnaissance mission, Algeria’s Defense Ministry said. The ministry said in a statement that a “technical failure” apparently caused the helicopter to crash Sunday between the towns of Adrar and Reggan in the Tamanrasset region.

The chief of staff of the Algerian armed forces ordered an investigation into the crash. The statement did not elaborate on the reason for the mission. Algeria’s security forces sporadically clash with Islamic extremists, notably members of Al-Qaida’s Algeria-based North Africa branch, according to a news agency."

Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/algerian-mi-171-helicopter-crash-kills-12-soldiers.html

Atakor wrote:We've dealt on our own in the past, nothing new. These ones tried something but they failed, and they were sent to hell. The security forces are perfectly able to protect these sites, unlike what the article says, since these terrorists didn't even dare to come near the compound. They were then hunted down.

We have always refused foreign bases on our soil, even if they're Russian bases.

The Algerian army cannot be compared to the SAA, too much differences, same for the countries. You're actually making the mistake of underestimating the army and the country, while they are much stronger than they appear. The country has not fallen in the 90's, when we had no weapons and no money, so it has no reason to fall now, Algeria is not Syria.

No one, and even Russia may not be interested in a permanent base....but Algeria and Russia need to cooperate more closely including joint military exercise so that Algeria is fully prepared to meet any unexpected crisis instigated by the western powers.
In my opinion what Algeria need to procure in good numbers and in tons (in addition to military hardware) are
1) Pepper sprays
2) Water cannons

These two were thoroughly missing in Syria (Russia, CIS countries) but these are the two most available items in western countries for crowd control and breaking up protests. What we usually see in mid-east (other than the western backed puppets) is that Govts (Russia included) do not invest in non-lethal crowd control and mostly are at the best equipped with tear gas canisters and to back them up and as a show of force (mostly to strike fear and when things get out of control) armed police/military with live ammo. They usually fire in the air to disperse the groups as a last resort and this is exactly where the trouble starts!!!

Its been naive on part of non-western Govts (incld Russia) to think that the protesters they encounter are just sporadic and non-backed groups, but they are well planned and prepared demos and if the case is to make it dirty, there will be elements along/behind the protesters armed with guns. They will perfectly make use of the available situation to fire upon the police/paramilitary/army and then all bets are off.....once a uniformed men is shot, naturally the reaction will be to fire back and it sets off a chain of events. Thats exactly what we saw in Libya, Syria and Ukraine....
And before anyone could dissect what really happened, the armada of western propaganda outlets would have painted what they wanted all over and its game over. Syria was just lucky that Russia stood by its only ally in the mid-east, Libya and Ukraine was not so lucky.

We are seeing lots of stuff recently....but where is the requirement for A-50, Tu-204 based SIGINT and MPA?
Without these Algerian force looks incomplete.
Russians did not bring in the A-50s initially and it really took an Israeli strike on Hezbollah target in Damascus to turn the events.

Algeria helicopter crash kills at least 12 soldiers

At least 12 Algerian soldiers were killed when a military helicopter crashed in the south of the country, the Defense Ministry said on Sunday.Further details were not immediately available. The crash occurred near Reggane town and two other soldiers were injured, the ministry said.

The first frigate project MEKO A200 AN arrived in Algeria



http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1867180.html

This new development is probably a direct result of T-90s successful campaign in Syria. Any idea when Algeria ordered these...maybe it came with T-90s that were shipped to Algeria recently?

Shtora countermeasures seen on Algerian T-90
Jens Kastner (INS), London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

A photograph released by Algeria's Ministry of National Defence (MDN) on 26 May confirms it is now operating T-90 tanks with the Shtora countermeasures system.

The photograph shows Chief of the National People's Army Lieutenant General Ahmed Gaid Saleh inspecting the 26th Armoured Regiment during a visit to the 3rd Military Region, which covers the western provinces of Bechar and Tindouf on the Moroccan and Mauritanian borders.

The Shtora can be identified by the presence of two infrared emitters fitted either side of the tank's main gun. These are designed to deceive the guidance systems on some types of anti-tank guided weapons (ATGWs). The Shtora was previously only seen on Russian tanks before October 2015, but some Syrian forces may now be operating a small number of T-90s fitted with the system.

Russia delivered 185 T-90s to Algeria in 2006-08 and 187 in 2012-13, according to information submitted by Moscow to the UN Office of Disarmament Affairs.

The Shtora may only be fitted to a more recent consignment of T-90s. Photographs circulated in December 2015 showing T-90s being unloaded in Oran from a roll-on/roll-off cargo ship that had sailed from Ust-Luga on Russia's Baltic Sea. The same ship made the same voyage a second time in March.

No T-90s were seen in the Algerian television coverage of an exercise held earlier in Gen Saleh's five-day visit to the 3rd Military Region. This reportedly featured units from the 40th Mechanised Division, which were equipped with extensively upgraded T-55 tanks, upgraded BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles, D-30 and BM-21 Grad artillery, and air defence systems including ZSU-23-4 Shilka self-propelled anti-aircraft guns and the more advanced Pantsyr-S1.

Has been posted in T-90 thread...
https://www.russiadefence.net/t5115p425-t-90-mbt-news#165925

(Added later) berhoum had already posted the Algerian T-90s with Shotra at the top of this page and I had posted a twitter link two pages back (Post n°81) regarding Russia shipping T-90 to Algeria in Dec 2015. Shotra was not visible in those pics, but now think that was it....

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha
Russia sending T-90s to Algeria
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/678878279311298560

berhoum wrote:

I didn't pay much attention earlier and thought it was a Syrian T-90 even though the uniform looked different.

Can you repost the image in your post no 132?
That link is not working anymore and image is missing.
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/l/t1.0-9/11218826_1598669167061807_2957550628210415086_n.jpg?oh=12c9cd54cd52c93127bcb3e51ae1bc2c&oe=570188BB

Algeria received the third Chinese corvette project S28A



http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2031467.html

Algerians need to pay attention to what happens in Syria .. because NATO have plans
to export their "moderates democracy" also into Algeria. If you look at the map of Africa,
they are preparing already the ground. ISIS at the right border of Algeria.. in Lybia, terrorist
in their left in Morroco ,and terrorist in their south. which france invaded. So ALgeria could be
be invaded by NATO "Freedom fighters" from all sides.

If i was in charge of Algeria Government will buy couple of thousands of T-90 tanks with
night attack capabilities. and send many of their special forces to Syria to train there
to fight terror groups tactics.

Vann7 wrote:

Algerians need to pay attention to what happens in Syria .. because NATO have plans
to export their "moderates democracy" also into Algeria. If you look at the map of Africa,
they are preparing already the ground. ISIS at the right border of Algeria.. in Lybia, terrorist
in their left in Morroco ,and terrorist in their south. which france invaded. So ALgeria could be
be invaded by NATO "Freedom fighters" from all sides.  

If i was in charge of Algeria Government will buy couple of thousands of T-90 tanks with
night attack capabilities. and send many of their special forces to Syria to train there
to fight terror groups tactics.

they already had their Islamist insurgency (1992-2002)

George1 wrote:

Vann7 wrote:

Algerians need to pay attention to what happens in Syria .. because NATO have plans
to export their "moderates democracy" also into Algeria. If you look at the map of Africa,
they are preparing already the ground. ISIS at the right border of Algeria.. in Lybia, terrorist
in their left in Morroco ,and terrorist in their south. which france invaded. So ALgeria could be
be invaded by NATO "Freedom fighters" from all sides.  

If i was in charge of Algeria Government will buy couple of thousands of T-90 tanks with
night attack capabilities. and send many of their special forces to Syria to train there
to fight terror groups tactics.

they already had their Islamist insurgency (1992-2002)

Im not speaking about a civil war.. but a NATO invasion through terrorist.
The armed groups who took in a day Aleppo in Syria came from the borders .
There are Mercenary groups from 80 countries in the world in Syria. and they dont enter
there in parachutes. but through Syria borders. So Algeria is as vulnerable as Syria to a similar NATO attack. So there is not such a thing like.. "it already happened" . US,and NATO Allies never give up and will continue an attacking any independent nation in the world that is not part of NATO.

Self-propelled ATGM "Kornet-EM" for Algeria



http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2194311.html

The first Su-30MKI (A) on a new contract for Algeria

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2244191.html

In Algeria delivered another batch of T-90SA

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2327288.html