The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

KoTeMoRe wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

sepheronx wrote:OK.  I was wondering.  It didn't look too good.  So I had no idea what its purpose was.

I figure majority of Ukraine's tanks are in such horrible condition.

That photo was taken around Kiev allegedly in September...

None of it comes as a surprise.  Even Russia with its mass budget managed to have a forest of T-80's appear (and they were in better condition).

But what I find funny is that some countries are still looking at possible purchases of T-84 Oplots from Ukraine.

And the should, the Oplot is a good tank for the initial price on paper. The assembly quality is something else...

sepheronx wrote:You found a T-80 captured or what?

higurashihougi wrote:Kyiv Force's workers are doing something with the T-64 hull... probably convert it into some sort of BMP ?

http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/377625.html

higurashihougi wrote:Kyiv Force's workers are doing something with the T-64 hull... probably convert it into some sort of BMP ?

Chersonesus wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:Kyiv Force's workers are doing something with the T-64 hull... probably convert it into some sort of BMP ?

From the last photo, it seems Azov has created a production line somewhere. The armour looks to be multiple stacked sheets of steel separated by air gaps. It will weigh so much that it is bound to be under powered. I also can't work out how the driver gets forward vision.

Werewolf wrote:

Chersonesus wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:Kyiv Force's workers are doing something with the T-64 hull... probably convert it into some sort of BMP ?

From the last photo, it seems Azov has created a production line somewhere. The armour looks to be multiple stacked sheets of steel separated by air gaps. It will weigh so much that it is bound to be under powered. I also can't work out how the driver gets forward vision.

It is not air gaps, this is integrated ERA (Nozh) slots, the standard design of ukr T-64.

Werewolf wrote:

Chersonesus wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:Kyiv Force's workers are doing something with the T-64 hull... probably convert it into some sort of BMP ?

From the last photo, it seems Azov has created a production line somewhere. The armour looks to be multiple stacked sheets of steel separated by air gaps. It will weigh so much that it is bound to be under powered. I also can't work out how the driver gets forward vision.

It is not air gaps, this is integrated ERA (Nozh) slots, the standard design of ukr T-64.

franco wrote:The West and Ukrainians being prepped for another Russian invasion of Ukraine thru the Donbas. The interesting development in all of this is the admission that there actually are rebels fighting against Kiev, something that up to the end of 2014 was heresy;
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-fears-big-war-as-russia-sends-in-more-troops-10457571.html

Both Donetsk and Lugansk leaders have been saying that Ukraine has been trying to provoke the NAF into attacking them, but barring that, will soon attack claiming it to be a preemptive strike.
The activity a couple of nights back could have been a feint to get the NAF to attack, or a trial run as you probably remember the Georgians doing a mass deployment out of their bases a couple of weeks prior back in 2008. It could also been to test NAF reaction times.
The UAF has massed 4 large strike forces of 10-15,000 troops per;
One is directed north of Mariupol,
One south of Donetsk,
One north of Gorlovka,
One north of Lugansk,

PS; were any of you aware the NAF attacked the UAF a couple of days back and suffered 130 dead as per the article linked

KoTeMoRe wrote:

franco wrote:The West and Ukrainians being prepped for another Russian invasion of Ukraine thru the Donbas. The interesting development in all of this is the admission that there actually are rebels fighting against Kiev, something that up to the end of 2014 was heresy;
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-fears-big-war-as-russia-sends-in-more-troops-10457571.html

Both Donetsk and Lugansk leaders have been saying that Ukraine has been trying to provoke the NAF into attacking them, but barring that, will soon attack claiming it to be a preemptive strike.
The activity a couple of nights back could have been a feint to get the NAF to attack, or a trial run as you probably remember the Georgians doing a mass deployment out of their bases a couple of weeks prior back in 2008. It could also been to test NAF reaction times.
The UAF has massed 4 large strike forces of 10-15,000 troops per;
One is directed north of Mariupol,
One south of Donetsk,
One north of Gorlovka,
One north of Lugansk,

PS; were any of you aware the NAF attacked the UAF a couple of days back and suffered 130 dead as per the article linked

echechechec

people say don't shoot the messenger. I say old chap, blow him to pieces.

Ecce Adam Nathan the author...dude's a fake account most probably and manages an "NGO in Kyiv", as well as a freelance 'writer'. This is hogwash, Peremoga style...relaks. Guy is a contributor to UA today and one of the many plants from our firends am Westen to preach the good word.

Flagship Victory wrote:Maidan says it allows Crimean athletes to compete for Russia. Thoughts?

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/sport/ukraine-allows-seven-crimean-athletes-to-compete-for-russia-395749.html

Flagship Victory wrote:Obama is out of office after next year. Putin must plan for the next president who is Republican and warhawk. I suspect NAF might start ground offensive next year to try take Kiev before the big guns fly in from the US.

Werewolf wrote:

Flagship Victory wrote:Obama is out of office after next year. Putin must plan for the next president who is Republican and warhawk. I suspect NAF might start ground offensive next year to try take Kiev before the big guns fly in from the US.

You mean the vile clinton with reproduction parts on the inside?

franco wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

Flagship Victory wrote:Obama is out of office after next year. Putin must plan for the next president who is Republican and warhawk. I suspect NAF might start ground offensive next year to try take Kiev before the big guns fly in from the US.

You mean the vile clinton with reproduction parts on the inside?

And the difference would be??