The Situation in the Ukraine. #22

Powerful

How stooges of the US empire talk about Russia.. Lies lies and more lies .



If anyone thinks for a second his speech was not carefully planned by a a propaganda
machine of the west.. think again. That was not an spontaneous conference ,he clearly was trained by a propaganda agency for bullshit and propaganda and was even making pauses to read his script/Show that was on his paper... lol

He basically blames Putin for all , for the Mh-17 ,for the Ukraine war, for Georgia war.. (when Putin was not President) for Moldova.. etc and his conclusion is that only when "Putin's regime"
collapse as soviet union did ,then the cold war will end.

Ukraine to recruit mercenaries;
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://warfiles.ru/show-99661-ukrainskuyu-armiyu-popolnyat-inostrannye-naemniki.html&usg=ALkJrhgm3RU0CmWAmQ74eufOvbdQgvSCZw

VICE neocons news media does it again..

Now is trying to create a storm in a cup of water over what they call..

"Russia occupation of Georgia" and aggression..



The goes and create a whole report of one hour ,demonizing Russia , all based about
an old farmer that was apparently arrested and later released 4 days later. For showing
up in the security border between Russia and Georgia.. a Family member of the arrested
man.. asked him..what he was doing on the south ossetian security fence. why he was there..
and obvious statement that there was no reason for him to be there.

And then you have Simon from Vice ,speaking with NATO secretary propaganda general
and he throw more Jabs at Russian supposed aggression and Russian invasion of Georgia.. lol
Totally missreporting the fact that it was Georgia who attacked Russia and it was Georgia who
killed Civilians and Russia interference happened only after their soldiers were bombed and south ossetians civilians killed. This is how you maintain an Empire ,with Mountain of LIES
and propaganda like VICE ,to try to pass as "independent" and poison people minds with lies.
THis is the same channel who refused for 1 year to report that Ukrainian army was bombing civilians women and children... instead it reported the casualties were "consequences of the war"..and if it was a "collateral damage" and not a war crime.

and if that was not enough the VICE comments is filled with trolls ,armies of NGO bots ,,demonizing Russia. comparing Putin with Hitler.. all for what? for 1 elder man who was arrested for interrogation for being close to the security fence and later released without any sign of torture or beaten. Some of them demanding more sanctions on Russia
Will not be surprised if all the posters were Pentagon employeers on their lunch break..
So propaganda at best.. Now Russia is an agressor of Georgia ,Ukraine ,moldova and Syria.
and will invade Soon baltics..

Meh. At this point the western media is doing its job. But clearly it barely convinces the masses. This propaganda is cheap and silly and wont change a thing at all. After a rdiculous amount of years of Anti Russian propaganda, what has it accomplished? Nothing. Much like the N Korean propaganda.

For some reason, people believe that the opinions of the mass makes any real difference. Just makes it easier to control their masses, thats all. Even with the all the viewers of RT, and the so called backlash of the media on US and their bombings of the Afghanistan hospital, what has it changed? Nothing other than cheap appologise and them trying to pin more blame on Russia.

What matters is Russians opinions in Russia and the opinions of their nearby friends. Clearly the propaganda isnt working as it was intended.

Vann7 wrote:

VICE neocons news media does it again..  

Now is trying to create a storm in a cup of water over what they call..

"Russia occupation of Georgia" and aggression..  

Didn't even lose my time watching it, but one can wonder: who would want to leave Russia and go to Georgia? It is not exactly a democratic paradise or a thriving economy. Quite on the contrary, Georgians are very fond of immigrating looking for better oportunities, especially to Russia (25%-30% of Georgians live and work there, most of them ilegally, and the money they transfer to their relatives is a very important income source).

General "warming up" of hostilities all along the front

Grad and mortars against Donetsk and the airport

http://tass.ru/en/world/835017

http://tass.ru/en/world/835073

Now they tried to attack in Debaltsevo

http://tass.ru/en/world/835082

..andd fighting with the use of mortars and rifles near Lebedynske, East of Mariupol

I stumbled upon information that UAF attacked in the direction of Debaltsevo during the night, heavy weapons used as well. Can someone confirm or clarify, bring more details?

EDIT: Thanks von Junzt missed by a second.

Ispan wrote:General "warming up" of hostilities all along the front

Grad and mortars against Donetsk and the airport

http://tass.ru/en/world/835017

http://tass.ru/en/world/835073

Now they tried to attack in Debaltsevo

http://tass.ru/en/world/835082

..andd fighting with the use of mortars and rifles near Lebedynske, East of Mariupol

OMG don't they learn anything?

I think they have learned very well, they've had over 6 months of intensive training from various EU and US units. Never underestimate your enemy. If it comes to a renewal of hostilities, and I have no doubts that it will, this one will be the hard and strong one. NAF will prevail but The World will scream bloody murder about a RAF intervention, that because no one but Russia can defeat the brave and intrepid warriors of the OAF.

Time to invest in shares of Ukrainian coffin makers.

I'm trying to think when the battle at Debaltsevo was?? I know there was snow on the ground.

Just thinking about winter, Spring, etc.

I haven't seen any trucks from Russia bringing humanitarian aid in a while. Is the train running from Russia to Donetsk??

Cowboy's daughter wrote:I'm trying to think when the battle at Debaltsevo was?? I know there was snow on the ground.

Just thinking about winter, Spring, etc.

I haven't seen any trucks from Russia bringing humanitarian aid in a while. Is the train running from Russia to Donetsk??

Debaltsyevo started within seconds after Minsk 2 was signed.

Humanitarian aid is still coming to Novorossiya frequently, it's just not publicized so much most of the time. Rail system is working but the worry is one orc with a mine can cause a large, expensive and quite probably deadly accident.

Thanks, auslander!
Your post made me think of WW2 and partisans guarding railroads. I reckon there is still plenty for the Militia to do, and that they are doing even with Minks agreement.

Cowboy's daughter wrote:Thanks, auslander!
Your post made me think of WW2 and partisans guarding railroads. I reckon there is still plenty for the Militia to do, and that they are doing even with Minks agreement.

You are most welcome, my lady. Yes, much work for the local eyes and ears to do and I fear it will be some years before total peace reigns in Novorossiya. The coming fighting will be very hard, this will be the orc's big push. They will lose but the cost to our boys and girls will be very high.

auslander wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:Thanks, auslander!
Your post made me think of WW2 and partisans guarding railroads. I reckon there is still plenty for the Militia to do, and that they are doing even with Minks agreement.

You are most welcome, my lady. Yes, much work for the local eyes and ears to do and I fear it will be some years before total peace reigns in Novorossiya. The coming fighting will be very hard, this will be the orc's big push. They will lose but the cost to our boys and girls will be very high.

Auslander, you said you been to Kiev to sort out passport recently, any interesting observations or stories to tell?

Apart from there not being an artillery bombardment it all looks like August again. Small scale fighting tonight from the front by Telmanovo to Gorlovka. IMO, this fighting has never been a serious provocation. If Kiev wanted to seriously provoke an attack they would make significant attacks on Lugansk because they can threaten to cut it off from the border, but they do almost nothing in that area and will not unless they are having considerable success at Donetsk with a major offensive. Last year they made a serious attempt to cut off Lugansk but failed because they could not deal with major operations at Lugansk and Donetsk at the same time, and Lugansk is within easy reach of help and I doubt they will attack Lugansk again with anything other than long range artillery bombarment. Kiev may even have secretly decided not to make any attempt to regain Lugansk and settle for Donetsk, which could be shown as a major victory, and the permanent loss of Lugansk for Kiev as a price worth paying. What ukrops are doing is certainly provocative, but it is probing defences and psychological warfare on civilians and preperation for their offensive. I wrote before, this is long out of the hands of Novorossiya, it is all about what Kiev does, or is told to do next.

Another sign of a impending offensive?

http://novorossia.today/uaf-redeployed-to-donbass-two-squadrons-of-military-helicopters/

The intelligence of the Donetsk People’s Republic fixed the arrival of Ukrainian military helicopters, artillery and tanks in occupied settlements in the Gorlovka direction. It has been reported today by the representative of the DPR’s Defence Ministry Eduard Basurin.

‘We were informed about the arrival of 2 squadrons of military helicopters to the town Konstantinovka (town to the north-west from Gorlovka), tanks were revealed in the settlement Zhovanka (town from the north from Gorlovka), artillery and self-propelled guns are in the settlement Novosvetlovka (region of Krasniyliman)’, it was said by Eduard Basuri
.

Vann7 wrote:

VICE neocons news media does it again..  

Now is trying to create a storm in a cup of water over what they call..

"Russia occupation of Georgia" and aggression..  



The goes and create a whole report of one hour ,demonizing Russia , all based about
an old farmer that was apparently arrested and later released 4 days later. For showing
up in the security border between Russia and Georgia.. a Family member of the arrested
man.. asked him..what he was doing on the south ossetian security fence. why he was there..
and obvious statement that there was no reason for him to be there.  

And then you have Simon from Vice ,speaking with NATO secretary propaganda general
and he throw more Jabs at Russian supposed aggression and Russian invasion of Georgia.. lol
Totally missreporting the fact that it was Georgia who attacked Russia and it was Georgia who
killed Civilians and Russia interference happened only after their soldiers were bombed and south ossetians civilians killed.  This is how you maintain an Empire ,with Mountain of LIES
and propaganda like VICE ,to try to pass as "independent" and poison people minds with lies.
THis is the same channel who refused for 1 year to report that Ukrainian army was bombing civilians women and children... instead it reported the casualties were "consequences of the war"..and if it was a "collateral damage" and not a war crime.

and if that was not enough the VICE comments is filled with trolls ,armies of NGO bots ,,demonizing Russia. comparing Putin with Hitler.. all for what? for 1 elder man who was arrested for interrogation for being close to the security fence and later released without any sign of torture or beaten. Some of them demanding more sanctions on Russia  
Will not be surprised if all the posters were Pentagon employeers on their lunch break..  
So propaganda at best.. Now Russia is an agressor of Georgia ,Ukraine ,moldova and Syria.
and will invade Soon baltics..  

What an effing joke. i used to like his reports, but to be honest this is just getting ridiculous now.

Lenny1983 wrote:

Vann7 wrote:

VICE neocons news media does it again..  

Now is trying to create a storm in a cup of water over what they call..

"Russia occupation of Georgia" and aggression..  



The goes and create a whole report of one hour ,demonizing Russia , all based about
an old farmer that was apparently arrested and later released 4 days later. For showing
up in the security border between Russia and Georgia.. a Family member of the arrested
man.. asked him..what he was doing on the south ossetian security fence. why he was there..
and obvious statement that there was no reason for him to be there.  

And then you have Simon from Vice ,speaking with NATO secretary propaganda general
and he throw more Jabs at Russian supposed aggression and Russian invasion of Georgia.. lol
Totally missreporting the fact that it was Georgia who attacked Russia and it was Georgia who
killed Civilians and Russia interference happened only after their soldiers were bombed and south ossetians civilians killed.  This is how you maintain an Empire ,with Mountain of LIES
and propaganda like VICE ,to try to pass as "independent" and poison people minds with lies.
THis is the same channel who refused for 1 year to report that Ukrainian army was bombing civilians women and children... instead it reported the casualties were "consequences of the war"..and if it was a "collateral damage" and not a war crime.

and if that was not enough the VICE comments is filled with trolls ,armies of NGO bots ,,demonizing Russia. comparing Putin with Hitler.. all for what? for 1 elder man who was arrested for interrogation for being close to the security fence and later released without any sign of torture or beaten. Some of them demanding more sanctions on Russia  
Will not be surprised if all the posters were Pentagon employeers on their lunch break..  
So propaganda at best.. Now Russia is an agressor of Georgia ,Ukraine ,moldova and Syria.
and will invade Soon baltics..  

What an effing joke. i used to like his reports, but to be honest this is just getting ridiculous now.

You used to like Semyon reports? For their comedy value i suppose/

PapaDragon wrote:

auslander wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:Thanks, auslander!
Your post made me think of WW2 and partisans guarding railroads. I reckon there is still plenty for the Militia to do, and that they are doing even with Minks agreement.

You are most welcome, my lady. Yes, much work for the local eyes and ears to do and I fear it will be some years before total peace reigns in Novorossiya. The coming fighting will be very hard, this will be the orc's big push. They will lose but the cost to our boys and girls will be very high.

Auslander, you said you been to Kiev to sort out passport recently, any interesting observations or stories to tell?

I was misunderstood, I went to US to get the passport. The probability of us making it to and from Kiev is low. That fat prick at embassy in Mockba has forgotten who he works for and is refusing any services to any US citizens residing in Krimea Peninsula. Once my health is back to normal I'll make a report about that trip behind enemy lines. I am appalled at what I saw and heard.

Su-25 from country 404 air force crashed in Zaporozhie. Pilot died in crash.

http://tass.ru/en/world/835503