The Situation in the Ukraine. #22

JohninMK wrote:

Kadmos45 wrote:Ukraine needs much more serious loving this time.
Why even bother transporting gas through urkians anyway.

And coal deliveries should never be resumed again.  No talks, no negotiations, no nothing.

Just pull out the plug indefinitely, and they will eventually beg Russia on knees for mercy ,not now but in less than 2 -3 years eventually.

Gas goes through Ukraine as it is currently the only way to get that volume of gas into southern Europe.

So maybe it's time for "southern Europe" to start paying attention what banderstaat naziurkia really is and what they support .
And there is nothing better to open their eyes than some long "technical problems" with gas transport
If they want gas then they shall order banderstaat to restore electricity to Krym among other things.

Donetsk tonight, again...

Ahh, thanks! False alarm then. Just the Ukrops lying as usual to put the blame on the Novorussians.

Btw, could anybody be so kind as to find the post in this thread on how the Novorussians managed to stop the modernized Bulat tanks, wich in theory should have a decent protection at least against RPGs? Someone wrote that they were disabled by massed artillery fire that damaged their tracks and then tank infantry hunters went to finish them off by shots to the sides and rear. I want to quote that post for my other thread and blog. It's the same case as Yemen where M1 Abrams tanks used by the Sauds are being lost. Good hardware can still be destroyed by poor tactics and training.

Ispan wrote:Ahh, thanks! False alarm then. Just the Ukrops lying as usual to put the blame on the Novorussians.

Btw, could anybody be so kind as to find the post in this thread on how the Novorussians managed to stop the modernized Bulat tanks, wich in theory should have a decent protection at least against RPGs? Someone wrote that they were disabled by massed artillery fire that damaged their tracks and then tank infantry hunters went to finish them off by shots to the sides and rear. I want to quote that post for my other thread and blog. It's the same case as Yemen where M1 Abrams tanks used by the Sauds are being lost.  Good hardware can still be destroyed by poor tactics and training.

In this case it was not only poor tactics and planning but also faults in the equipment. Some of the Bulats were destroyed because of crappy weld quality causing RPGs and other HEAT warheads to blow them apart in one hit. But that was not all the Bulats of course. Others were destroyed by well prepared rebels and then some more were apparently popped by T-72B3s and a T-90A.

Red arrow points to hit by RPG. Only normal armor a few cm thick along the sides from rear of the glacis.

Ispan wrote:This is crazy, everytime the Ukrops are ready to launch an offensive, something unexpected happens that postpones it. They were all set to go starting this wednesday, and the downing of the Russian jet over Turkey has made the West so nervous about heightened tensions that they told the junta to call it off

Have been unable to find it in English, Poroshenko forbids Ukranian army to fire, starting from
this midnight.

http://mundo.sputniknews.com/europa/20151125/1054073664/ucrania-donbas-poroshenko-fuego.html#ixzz3sWAoWkji

We will see it is for real, or just a treacherous ruse. I expect another delay, but some time or another the Orks will have to attack.

This has been building with the Ukrainians complaining long and loud to their own population and the West of how the NAF is attacking them constantly but they are only defending themselves.

Situation in the last hour got more serious than usual around Spartak. A lot of heavy mortar fire that can be heard all over northern Donetsk and ukrops instead of using typically one tank to fire an occasional round is using what seems tanks in platoon+ strength firing into Spartak. Small stuff in war but it is another increment, and that is important.

Khepesh wrote:Situation in the last hour got more serious than usual around Spartak. A lot of heavy mortar fire that can be heard all over northern Donetsk and ukrops instead of using typically one tank to fire an occasional round is using what seems tanks in platoon+ strength firing into Spartak. Small stuff in war but it is another increment, and that is important.

Is the ground hard enough for Tank warfare?

franco wrote:

Khepesh wrote:Situation in the last hour got more serious than usual around Spartak. A lot of heavy mortar fire that can be heard all over northern Donetsk and ukrops instead of using typically one tank to fire an occasional round is using what seems tanks in platoon+ strength firing into Spartak. Small stuff in war but it is another increment, and that is important.

Is the ground hard enough for Tank warfare?

Yes, but really tanks can be used all year as long as caution is used to avoid obvious very soft, swampy ground near rivers and streams, and to avoid hard turns on muddy fields which quickly clogs the running gear and can cause a track to come off.

Temperatures are dropping a couple degrees below zero Celsius at night. But this being Ukraine a sudden thaw can turn the ground into mud again. There should be dry and cool weather this weekend. Next week it will be colder and dry, though cloudy. I expect Ukrop troop buildup to take up some more days. The tanks and armored vehicles can manage as it is now, but the key is artillery deployment, siting the batteries and the ammo dumps, though if the ground freezes then that makes it harder to dig gun pits.

I believe if an attack was inminent this weekend we would have seen more intense activity.

flamming_python wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:Im actually starting to like yatsenyuk, he is turning out to be the best agent of russian policy in area 404.

Our man Yats

Let's midwife the midwife...

JohninMK wrote:One suspects that some in Kiev are loving this. From Interfax

A Ukrenergo repair crew has stopped repairing a damaged power line pylon on the 220 kV Kakhovka-Titan power grid which supplies electricity to Crimea and two districts in Kherson region under the request of Crimean Tatar activists, the press service of Kherson Regional State Administration said.

"One of the activists and leaders of the protest [blockade of Crimea] Lenur Isliamov explained that the activists demand that the [de-facto Crimea] occupation authorities release political prisoners and until this condition is met, power supply to the territory of Crimea won't be restored," the administration said, referring to Ukrenergo's press service.

As reported, on November 25 the company carried major work to restore the pylon on the 220 kV Kakhovka-Titan power grid.

They want some of that Russian love so bad. It's kind of funny, because Russia will never fall for it does this mean they will continue to make fools of themselves for the rest of eternity?

Pathetic, really. As I said to a Ukrop some time ago, all they've done is prove themselves to be terrorists to the Crimean residents.

https://www.facebook.com/anton.gerashchenko.7/posts/949655895121258

Prepare yourselves for a headache.

Gerwshenko claims that blowing up the power lines was done by, can you guess?

The russian intelligence services.

That old chestnut

The scary thing is that some idiots agree with him, one fool posts a comment ' putin understands he has to give up crimea but cant do it just like that, so he has to invent a reason to do it without losing face'

These ukrainian zombies really believe this shit? After everything that has been said and done since maidan, they actually still believe that its all putins fault and that russia is weak, russia will give up crimea and donbass and the state of banderstan will triumph before being welcomed into europe with open arms, victory march down the champs allyses and ukrainian made into an official eu language?

It really boggles my mind that the ukrainian people still buy into this shit.

Is the West getting fed up with Ukraine?

http://m.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/11/27/west-fed-up-with-ukraine.html

franco wrote:Is the West getting fed up with Ukraine?

http://m.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/11/27/west-fed-up-with-ukraine.html

Nope it's just that right now, Russia is in full tension mode, so while the troubles are with Turkey, the 404 might just get blown to bits because reasons. And the problem is that the Ukrainians just don't want to pay (and didn't have the cash too).

Anyone notice that all the sabre rattling and anti russian hysteria that happened during the ukraine crisis in order to justify natos existence and line their pockets is now non existent now there is actually a real chance of a nato-war?

More than ever it goes to show what frauds they are.

Rodinazombie wrote:Anyone notice that all the sabre rattling and anti russian hysteria that happened during the ukraine crisis in order to justify natos existence and line their pockets is now non existent now there is actually a real chance of a nato-war?

More than ever it goes to show what frauds they are.

Getting glassed isn't exactly what people aspire to in real life.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:Anyone notice that all the sabre rattling and anti russian hysteria that happened during the ukraine crisis in order to justify natos existence and line their pockets is now non existent now there is actually a real chance of a nato-war?

More than ever it goes to show what frauds they are.

Getting glassed isn't exactly what people aspire to in real life.

On forums they do Mustafa and alike are the very proof of that. Like a slut that can only think about big cocks untill she meets one and then is afraid it might rip her up. That is our Mustafa fearing to lose not just his vaginal virginity but all holes all together at once.

That comparison is so true, but so uncalled for.

KoTeMoRe wrote:That comparison is so true, but so uncalled for.

Someone has to break the ice, maybe he is drooling for it now more then ever, after picturing it.

What the eff?

This forum is becoming more degenerate every day.