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    Syrian Civil War: News #3

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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:59 pm

    Good video of one of those 'Hell Rockets" being used


    Search for Target, Launch and Destroy..#SAA local rocket hit Islamist militiants position in Khan Shih/westren Ghota
    https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/660844018553737217
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    Post  Guest Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:14 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:Good video of one of those 'Hell Rockets" being used


    Search for Target, Launch and Destroy..#SAA local rocket hit Islamist militiants position in Khan Shih/westren Ghota
    https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/660844018553737217

    Actually i always prefered term "Elephant bomb" coz of their sound during launch that reminds alot of elephant. Btw first time something of a sort was used on large scale was Yugoslav wars by Serbs that used varios types of HE-FRAG bombs and paired them with engines available (from Kh-13 engines to Orkan M87 MLRS) to create few versions (fairly standardised tho not like these guys, each unit having 5 types) and they are today mostly known under one name "Košava" (type of wind).

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    Even modern version is proposed for export today by Serbian integrator company Yugoimport SDPR. And yeah that is Laser guided bomb Very Happy

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    Post  Cyberspec Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:03 am

    Wow....Laser Guided Koshava Very Happy ...they should offer it to the SAA or Iraqis
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    Post  Guest Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:10 am

    Cyberspec wrote:Wow....Laser Guided Koshava Very Happy ...they should offer it to the SAA or Iraqis

    If someone funded the project abit it probably would be doable to field it in fairly short time. Vehicle itself exists and launch ramps etc, just to pick standardised bomb you want/booster engine and laser designation system. I guess even guided glide bombs could be used if powerful enough engine is paired with the bomb.

    To Iraq possibly, however Serbia would not be allowed to export anything to Syria...at least not officially.

    They could pick one of the wide range of guided both by laser and SATnav from China http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLA-GBU.html Very Happy
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:19 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:Wow....Laser Guided Koshava Very Happy ...they should offer it to the SAA or Iraqis

    If someone funded the project abit it probably would be doable to field it in fairly short time. Vehicle itself exists and launch ramps etc, just to pick standardised bomb you want/booster engine and laser designation system. I guess even guided glide bombs could be used if powerful enough engine is paired with the bomb.

    To Iraq possibly, however Serbia would not be allowed to export anything to Syria...at least not officially.

    They could pick one of the wide range of guided both by laser and SATnav from China http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLA-GBU.html Very Happy

    Yup, our guys tend to be sticklers for the rules when it comes to gun runnin' but I guess someone could e-mail blueprints to SAA...hypotheticaly... Suspect Cool
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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:24 am

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    Post  par far Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:47 am

    INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA-IRAQ BATTLESPACE, NOV. 01. 2015

    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-iraq-battlespace-nov-01-2015/


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    Post  Erk Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:50 am

    par far wrote:INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA-IRAQ BATTLESPACE, NOV. 01. 2015

    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-iraq-battlespace-nov-01-2015/


    Looks like a tough battle keeping the supply roads open.

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    Post  par far Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:06 am

    Erk wrote:
    par far wrote:INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA-IRAQ BATTLESPACE, NOV. 01. 2015

    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-iraq-battlespace-nov-01-2015/


    Looks like a tough battle keeping the supply roads open.



    I don't get it, can't they take the supplies by air?
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    Post  Guest Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:47 am

    par far wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    par far wrote:INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA-IRAQ BATTLESPACE, NOV. 01. 2015

    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-iraq-battlespace-nov-01-2015/


    Looks like a tough battle keeping the supply roads open.



    I don't get it, can't they take the supplies by air?

    Few issues with that, transport fleet is aged and quite few in numbers, its expencive per ton/kg, imagine delivering something that costs 2USD per kg while transport costs 3 USD per kg, that is one of the reasons why US has so huge military budget. They fly/transport by ships even toilet paper (maybe not toilet paper, but frozen jogurt for an example we have proof Very Happy) from the US to Japan/Germany. Then there are some loads for which you have to land...land where? Surrounded by enemy that possibly has MANPADs? Quite tricky. And if you airdrop it, there is chance it ends up in wrong hands etc.

    They surely do deliver some supplies via air but that is not always and everywhere possible.
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    Post  Erk Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:50 am

    par far wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    par far wrote:INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA-IRAQ BATTLESPACE, NOV. 01. 2015

    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-iraq-battlespace-nov-01-2015/


    Looks like a tough battle keeping the supply roads open.



    I don't get it, can't they take the supplies by air?

    A land battle force like the SAA, will be getting supplies by road mostly.

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    Post  Cyberspec Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:11 am

    ISIS Training Camp Destroyed in Deir Ezzor: Several Chechens and Tunisians Killed

    On Sunday morning, the Syrian Air Force was provided satellite imagery from their Russian military advisors that revealed the location of ISIS’ primary training camp inside the Deir Ezzor Governorate; this prompted the Syrian Air Force to carry out several airstrikes over this base at the town of Al-Shamaytiyah in the Al-Tabous Moutnains.

    According to a military source inside the Deir Ezzor Military Airport, the training camp was reportedly destroyed – along with the terrorists inside the camp – by the Syrian Air Force’s airstrikes.

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-training-camp-destroyed-in-deir-ezzor-several-chechens-and-tunisians-killed/

    Also the town of Jabool has been retaken (East Aleppo)

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/cheetah-forces-retake-jabboul-in-east-aleppo-while-isis-reinforces-sheikh-ahmad/
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:09 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:Good video of one of those 'Hell Rockets" being used


    Search for Target, Launch and Destroy..#SAA local rocket hit Islamist militiants position in Khan Shih/westren Ghota
    https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/660844018553737217

    Actually i always prefered term "Elephant bomb" coz of their sound during launch that reminds alot of elephant. Btw first time something of a sort was used on large scale was Yugoslav wars by Serbs that used varios types of HE-FRAG bombs and paired them with engines available (from Kh-13 engines to Orkan M87 MLRS) to create few versions (fairly standardised tho not like these guys, each unit having 5 types) and they are today mostly known under one name "Košava" (type of wind).

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    Even modern version is proposed for export today by Serbian integrator company Yugoimport SDPR. And yeah that is Laser guided bomb Very Happy

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    Serbia the fukcing McGyver of warfare and global proliferation. Thumbs up!
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:10 pm


    hezbolah sniper vs ISIS..




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    Post  Guest Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:48 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:Good video of one of those 'Hell Rockets" being used


    Search for Target, Launch and Destroy..#SAA local rocket hit Islamist militiants position in Khan Shih/westren Ghota
    https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/660844018553737217

    Actually i always prefered term "Elephant bomb" coz of their sound during launch that reminds alot of elephant. Btw first time something of a sort was used on large scale was Yugoslav wars by Serbs that used varios types of HE-FRAG bombs and paired them with engines available (from Kh-13 engines to Orkan M87 MLRS) to create few versions (fairly standardised tho not like these guys, each unit having 5 types) and they are today mostly known under one name "Košava" (type of wind).

    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 18 4_9

    Even modern version is proposed for export today by Serbian integrator company Yugoimport SDPR. And yeah that is Laser guided bomb Very Happy

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    Serbia the fukcing McGyver of warfare and global proliferation. Thumbs up!

    Haha, true, true.

    Well Serbs have during Yugoslav Civil war alot of gravity bombs of various kinds, and could produce them too, however they were forbidden to fly at one point by NATO, so they got this idea to merge two things they have in quantities. There was at one point released audio from US pilot over Bosnia that was sent to intercept and destroy "Serb bombers", coz FABs were falling on Muslim positions. You can imagine NATO frustration seeing aerial bombs falling on targets and no aircrafts in the sky whatsoever. Just few years ago Bosnia and Herzegovina destroyed last remaining Areal Fuel Rocket-modified Bombs (RFAB-275 M-91) which were converted for use on Koshava, 58 of them in total ended up on that side of Drina river.

    There was even try to make them "smart" or at least more precise, since you can imagine this isnt very accurate by definition. Yugoslavians had saboteur/partisan units which were armed with fairly light weapons including single shot "MLRS" in 128mm Yugoslavian caliber. It was dubbed M71 - Partisan, it was imagined as confusion tool for enemy artillery radars for an example or attacks from multiple angles with few of these aganist some higher value targets.

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    So what was the idea, they place this one equiped with "tracer" version of 128mm rocket which was used as aerial target for Yugoslavian short range air defence like Strela, Igla etc since it generates alot of signature (official name was "Aerial target imitator"). Then they aim it at the target they need to hit and place it next to Koshava. Then, they placed specially desiegned RFAB-275-M91 which had added guidance elements from K13M on it (not adequate but guidance parts but nothing else was available...). So you basically fire them at the same time, and in theory RFAB was supposed to at least at start "track" this "aiming" rocket which would increase accuracy.

    How Serious this Yugoslavian versions were says fact that RBL 755 (cluster submunition) variant was made (few only i suppose) which hard maximum range of 18km, here is one photo of it (training rounds naturally, with white stripes).

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    Well hope someone enjoyed this little offtopic Very Happy



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    Post  zg18 Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:53 pm

    It seems "rebels" from Jaish al-Islam had a bad day , 80 fighters KIA & WIA

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    They were ambushed in Aziziyah , south of Al-Hadher by Syrian recon unit.
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    Post  zg18 Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:57 pm

    Eastern entrance of Al-Hadher , "rebels" seem genuinely panicked

    https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/661180707398680576
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    Post  Guest Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:17 pm

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    "TOCHKA-U 9M21M near a refugee camp on the Syria border in Latakian countryside."

    Source: https://twitter.com/sakirkhader/status/661221587744628736
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    Post  Cyberspec Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:19 pm

    Reversal at Ghannam..

    Islamist Rebels Launch Counter-Assault at Ghannam in Northern Latakia: Town Recaptured
    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/islamist-rebels-launch-counter-assault-at-ghannam-in-northern-latakia-town-recaptured/
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:31 am

    What's the difference between moderates and extremists?

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    ^^^The Alawites in a cage are mentioned as "Apes" by freedom fighting 'moderate rebels'.
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:38 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:What's the difference between moderates and extremists?

    Trendy lavender sweaters... Rolling Eyes

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    ^^^The Alawites in a cage are mentioned as "Apes" by freedom fighting 'moderate rebels'.



    They are placing those cages on top of the buildings to protect themself from airstrikes btw.
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    Post  ultron Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:32 am

    big rockets

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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:57 pm

    "The only Syrian at the Syria peace conference in Vienna was the waiter. (No joke)..."

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    His name is Nizar El Khoury, a 25 year old from Syria.

    Source: https://twitter.com/BBassem7/status/661324763378290688
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:02 pm

    Very sad and disappointing.  If I was a Syrian diplomat or anything of such, I would call the talks as BS and simply nothing else and not recognize any decision from any party there.  Syria has a say in their own country and the future of their own country, no one else.
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:05 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Very sad and disappointing.  If I was a Syrian diplomat or anything of such, I would call the talks as BS and simply nothing else and not recognize any decision from any party there.  Syria has a say in their own country and the future of their own country, no one else.

    This reminds me alot of what was happening with Serbs last 2,5 decades.

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