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Project 955: Borei class SSBN
zg18- Posts : 888
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Let's hope that production time gets shortened!
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Yuriy Dolgoruky submarine to fire Bulava missile October 29-30
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George1 wrote:Yuriy Dolgoruky submarine to fire Bulava missile October 29-30
Correct me if am wrong, but were not two users on this forum making a bet on if this will be successful launch or not between BTRfan? and TR1 and the loser has to use an avatar the winner choses?
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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Yep, right here... https://www.russiadefence.net/t34p75-bulava-slbm-development-threadWerewolf wrote:George1 wrote:Yuriy Dolgoruky submarine to fire Bulava missile October 29-30
Correct me if am wrong, but were not two users on this forum making a bet on if this will be successful launch or not between BTRfan? and TR1 and the loser has to use an avatar the winner choses?
Problem is that it was Navyfield, who has been kicked, and not TR1.
Werewolf- Posts : 5928
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Mike E wrote:Yep, right here... https://www.russiadefence.net/t34p75-bulava-slbm-development-threadWerewolf wrote:George1 wrote:Yuriy Dolgoruky submarine to fire Bulava missile October 29-30
Correct me if am wrong, but were not two users on this forum making a bet on if this will be successful launch or not between BTRfan? and TR1 and the loser has to use an avatar the winner choses?
Problem is that it was Navyfield, who has been kicked, and not TR1.
You mean Navyfield and not BTRfan where i made a mistake.
Mike E- Posts : 2619
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Yes... Anyway, this launch will be crucial for the future of both Borei and Bulava, like every other launch.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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I didn't bet anything regarding Bulava.
The only thing I bet was that Essen would be launched in 2015.
The knowledge that Navyfield is somewhere crying is good enough for me.
The only thing I bet was that Essen would be launched in 2015.
The knowledge that Navyfield is somewhere crying is good enough for me.
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You bet that the launch wouldn't fail, so you're in a safe position regardless...TR1 wrote:I didn't bet anything regarding Bulava.
The only thing I bet was that Essen would be launched in 2015.
The knowledge that Navyfield is somewhere crying is good enough for me.
On posts 78-85. https://www.russiadefence.net/t34p75-bulava-slbm-development-thread
Lol... You're clearly not missing him...
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Footage of inside Yuri Dolgoruky during the recent launch yesterday. For being a sub, the interior seems very "comfortable"... Plus, to be honest, it is more up-to-date than the Ohio's...
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Strategic nuclear sub Vladimir Monomakh to go into service with Russian Navy December 19
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6th submarine of Project 955 "Borei" will be laid down on December 26
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Third Borei-class nuclear sub handed over to Russian Navy
SEVERODVINSK, December 10. /TASS/. The third Borei-class (Project 955 ) ballistic missile nuclear submarine, the Vladimir Monomakh, has been handed over to the Russian Navy, a defense industry source told TASS Wednesday.
It was earlier reported that the submarine will be officially adopted for service in the Russian Navy on December 19.
The Borei-class submarines are designed by the St. Petersburg-based Rubin Design Bureau for Marine Engineering. These submarines armed with the Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads are intended to become the backbone of Russia’s naval strategic forces for the coming decades. By 2020 it is planned to build a total of eight Borei-class submarines: 3 subs under Project 955 and 5 - under Project 955A. Each submarine will be armed with 16 Bulava missiles.
SEVERODVINSK, December 10. /TASS/. The third Borei-class (Project 955 ) ballistic missile nuclear submarine, the Vladimir Monomakh, has been handed over to the Russian Navy, a defense industry source told TASS Wednesday.
It was earlier reported that the submarine will be officially adopted for service in the Russian Navy on December 19.
The Borei-class submarines are designed by the St. Petersburg-based Rubin Design Bureau for Marine Engineering. These submarines armed with the Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads are intended to become the backbone of Russia’s naval strategic forces for the coming decades. By 2020 it is planned to build a total of eight Borei-class submarines: 3 subs under Project 955 and 5 - under Project 955A. Each submarine will be armed with 16 Bulava missiles.
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My vote for you George1 - excellent pics.
@TR1 - 14 boomers is a must
- I have no doubt Russia will build 14 Borei class subs.
@TR1 - 14 boomers is a must
- I have no doubt Russia will build 14 Borei class subs.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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With what money and in what timeframe?
If Russia ever goes for 14 boomers it won't have enough SSNs to escort them :O
Not to even speak of the rest of the armed forces need to reequip!
Also I am pretty sure even if this extremely unlikely scenario happened, they would exceed treaty warhead limits- unless they gutted the ICBM force which does not seem to be the case.
If Russia ever goes for 14 boomers it won't have enough SSNs to escort them :O
Not to even speak of the rest of the armed forces need to reequip!
Also I am pretty sure even if this extremely unlikely scenario happened, they would exceed treaty warhead limits- unless they gutted the ICBM force which does not seem to be the case.
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Boomers *need* escorts? They are safer with them of course, but they aren't necessary. If anything, a SSN would only increase the chance of being detected. Plus, for escorting, I'd assume a somewhat nearby surface combatant would be sufficient.TR1 wrote:With what money and in what timeframe?
If Russia ever goes for 14 boomers it won't have enough SSNs to escort them :O
Not to even speak of the rest of the armed forces need to reequip!
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If Russia focuses on increasing the boomer fleet to 14 boats, it won't have a half decent surface force to even speak of.
My prediction is, 8 Boreiis and that's it, tops.
My prediction is, 8 Boreiis and that's it, tops.
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I'd like to believe 12, as that is the number that the US will be fielding. Boomers are just an extension of mobile ICBM's anyway IMHO, and we all know what country has a load of those.
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TR1 wrote:With what money and in what timeframe?
If Russia ever goes for 14 boomers it won't have enough SSNs to escort them :O
Not to even speak of the rest of the armed forces need to reequip!
Also I am pretty sure even if this extremely unlikely scenario happened, they would exceed treaty warhead limits- unless they gutted the ICBM force which does not seem to be the case.
i dont think is so impossible. 3 out of 8 are already in service. And 2 more are in construction.
for SSNs i agree, numbers there must be increased with the inclusion maybe of a lighter type as more cheap solution than Yasen class
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Cough, SSK's, cough... No need for a large number of SSN's if Russia's navy will be on the defense.George1 wrote:for SSNs i agree, numbers there must be increased with the inclusion maybe of a lighter type as more cheap solution than Yasen class
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Having too few SSBNs is a serious problem, but having too many is equally a problem too.
It is better to have a smaller more active fleet that is fully manned than to have a much larger fleet.
Keep in mind that the new start treaty limits the number of both warheads and nuclear platforms so having more SSBNs wont mean more SLBMs, it will just mean fewer missiles per boat which actually makes them less efficient.
8 SSBNs would be plenty... Russia doesn't need space for thousands of SLBM warheads...
I remember reading an article that suggested they should stop building SSBNs and instead on SSNs they should have two UKSK launchers for 16 cruise missiles or anti ship missiles (making them SSGNs) and also having 2-4 SLBMs like Sineva or Bulava on every attack sub... that way you could have more attack subs which would be good for both attack and defence.
Obvious problems are of course SLBMs are large and would require deep decks, and of course the obvious... SSNs chase enemy SSNs but SSBNs try to find empty ocean and hide but remain in communications with HQ waiting for the order to launch their missiles... so they have conflicting missions.
It is better to have a smaller more active fleet that is fully manned than to have a much larger fleet.
Keep in mind that the new start treaty limits the number of both warheads and nuclear platforms so having more SSBNs wont mean more SLBMs, it will just mean fewer missiles per boat which actually makes them less efficient.
8 SSBNs would be plenty... Russia doesn't need space for thousands of SLBM warheads...
I remember reading an article that suggested they should stop building SSBNs and instead on SSNs they should have two UKSK launchers for 16 cruise missiles or anti ship missiles (making them SSGNs) and also having 2-4 SLBMs like Sineva or Bulava on every attack sub... that way you could have more attack subs which would be good for both attack and defence.
Obvious problems are of course SLBMs are large and would require deep decks, and of course the obvious... SSNs chase enemy SSNs but SSBNs try to find empty ocean and hide but remain in communications with HQ waiting for the order to launch their missiles... so they have conflicting missions.
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Hmm talking about escorts.
How each submarine identify each other ? Or coordinating their movement. Underwater communication is kinda difficult affair as typical radiowave may not work. One possible method is VLF but i wonder if this is the method used.. as VLF transmission requires large antenna and voice communication cannot be sent.
How each submarine identify each other ? Or coordinating their movement. Underwater communication is kinda difficult affair as typical radiowave may not work. One possible method is VLF but i wonder if this is the method used.. as VLF transmission requires large antenna and voice communication cannot be sent.
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Vladimir Monomakh was officially handed to the Russian Navy today
Kyo Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:05 pm
Great!
http://rt.com/news/214155-russia-submarine-vladimir-monomakh.
http://rt.com/news/214155-russia-submarine-vladimir-monomakh.
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Nice 34-minute film, Dolgorukiy construction, emergency escape chamber, Bulava missile production, etc