This thread is gaining lots of OT posts that should not be here. Should there be a new thread for the Turkey/Russia spat or should it be part of the Russia/Syria thread?
Either way should this thread be locked as the incident is over?
Khepesh wrote:Demonstration outside Turkish embassy in Sofia. About two hundred with Bulgarian, Russian and Syrian flags and banners saying "Retribution is inevitable", and "Russia we are with you". https://russian.rt.com/article/132861
KoTeMoRe wrote:Acheron wrote:Militarov wrote:
Apparently navigator few moments after being saved.
Really? According to sources, he was supposed to be picked up at night and delivered back to base by ~4:00 am, after a day of evading durka durka search parties.
Durka search parties that restarted as soon as the pilot contacted base. I mean holy fvck, Turkey was even listening to get him nailed. I mean FFS how could they even pretend not to know who they were shooting when they were screening for his distress call to get him captured. I don't know what's worse knowing those fuckers had Turkish intel all along, or knowing now Turkey was lying all along.
ANKARA, November 26 - RIA Novosti, Alan Palazhchenko. Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said that in case of violation of air borders of the country is the same answer as the incident with the downed Russian Su-24 bombers.
© AFP 2015
Pentagon: Turkey hit by the Su-24, defending its airspace
"If today is exactly the same violation of our air borders happens, we are able to give the same answer," - he said at a meeting of the heads of village administrations in Ankara on Thursday.
On Tuesday, the Russian Su-24 crashed in Syria. He was hit by a rocket-type "air-air" to the Turkish F-16s over Syrian territory, and fell in Syria, four kilometers from the border with Turkey. Russia regarded the incident as a "stab in the back" by the accomplices of terrorists. Turkey claims that Russian aircraft had violated its airspace. General Staff of the Russian Federation said that the Su-24, the border crossing with Turkey and this is confirmed by Syrian air defense.
RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20151126/1328952123.html#ixzz3sbJPknzx
GunshipDemocracy wrote:flamming_python wrote: Well not like this, they may be Russophobes or skeptical about Russia (for understandable reasons), but they keep it civil.
Not all, but true that level of skurwienia Polish politicians is comparable to Ukropistan. they support banderlogs although banderlogs are responsible of genocide of almost 400 Poles in Wolyn !!!
just because their sick phobias against Russia they also seem to allying with IGIL just because IGIL is anti Russian .
Young generation is brainwashed every day with Ministry of Truth news, no wonder some of them behave scandalous.
JohnSnow wrote:^^^ I call BS (on the IRGC story).
KoTeMoRe wrote:JohnSnow wrote:^^^ I call BS (on the IRGC story).
Yeah, but There were Hizb'Allah guys involved.
arpakola wrote:Erdogan's son with jihadists..
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, maybe starting the Kurdish Express would indeed be a good idea?
No need to shoot down Turkish aircraft. Send a bunch of Igla-S to YPG/PKK together with routes of Turkish fighters... and watch them fall from the sky one by one. There is retaliation together with a degree of deniability that would not exist if RuAF shoots them down.
Keeping the missiles close to the Syrian border, together with skillfully "dosing" number of missiles should help.Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, maybe starting the Kurdish Express would indeed be a good idea?
No need to shoot down Turkish aircraft. Send a bunch of Igla-S to YPG/PKK together with routes of Turkish fighters... and watch them fall from the sky one by one. There is retaliation together with a degree of deniability that would not exist if RuAF shoots them down.
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Guys, maybe starting the Kurdish Express would indeed be a good idea?
No need to shoot down Turkish aircraft. Send a bunch of Igla-S to YPG/PKK together with routes of Turkish fighters... and watch them fall from the sky one by one. There is retaliation together with a degree of deniability that would not exist if RuAF shoots them down.
Mustafa wrote:I already said a dozen times it was a bad mistake. I´m also no supporter of Erdogan as a person, but i will never speak against the president.
I want good relations between our nation and russia. The only one who profits from this idiocy (which happened because our mistake) is ISIS. Evryone in the region is pretty nervous. It looks like nobody checked what airplane this was exactly. Which was a mistake.
But i want bring one point here, why we will never accept Assad in power in Syria. And russia pretty much knows they won´t be able to hold him in power if we actively work against it. Assad uses posion gas. Our government has the duty to protect our boarder, property and even more important life.
What if Assad sends an airplane to do a poison gas attack on some boarder city? What then? We all sit down and say: my bad?
Assad and his family clan have no future in syria.
If russia wants an agreement they better find a puppet that can replace him.
The turkmens are not secure under his regime. You either kick Assad out or cut off the turkmen areas and make them part of turkey.
There is no scenario where turkey or any other nation in the region will ever support Assad. Considering the fact, that 80% of syrians are sunni and hate him with passion as well you know where this is going. This is a point totally independend from erdogan. No turkish president will allow Assad to rule over turkmens. Thats the red line.
You can install there whoever you want. And even if you chose Lady Gaga as queen, so be it. But it won´t be Assad.
That area is our crimea. And our people always come first, even before economic interests.